Elon Musk's epic bacon adventures

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It's mostly drawn smut and other sub-genres that those sites don't traditionally cater for. A lot of tumblr users were people who identified as non-binary and had different tastes (I'm not sure whether to use the word "queer" here). If you see someone with a cartoon/drawn avatar then they are usually a tumblr refugee.
I would.

One of my exes was in to the tumblr stuff and I think you're pretty much spot on here. It was an alt smut community and it's the community bit that made it different to just searching for drawn porn or reading stuff on literotica.
 

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This is so confusing. A load of blue haired libs used to rely on Tumbler for their porn and now they’ve moved to Twitter to seek it out instead?!? What kind of depraved maniacs can’t have their porn needs sufficiently met by YouPorn?
Youporn?! Pornhub's where it's at now. Do you even tug?
 

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Assuming they decline the offer, this may potentially open up other companies to make offers like a Microsoft. It has highlighted issues with Twitter that need addressing.
 

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It's mostly drawn smut and other sub-genres that those sites don't traditionally cater for. A lot of tumblr users were people who identified as non-binary and had different tastes (I'm not sure whether to use the word "queer" here). If you see someone with a cartoon/drawn avatar then they are usually a tumblr refugee.
Ah. Ok. I've seen them round. Furries and the like? Had no idea that porn refugees was a thing. What a brave new world we live in...
 

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I would.

One of my exes was in to the tumblr stuff and I think you're pretty much spot on here. It was an alt smut community and it's the community bit that made it different to just searching for drawn porn or reading stuff on literotica.
I'm a bit uneasy about using it even if it has been "reclaimed". If they themselves want to use it though, go ahead.
 

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I think the most unique thing was that he did this in different companies, but when it comes to diversity, Larry Page and Sergey Brin did that too. And unlike Elon, they really had a strong computer science background, to be considered real experts there.

Google (search engine), GMail (the email provider), Youtube (buying it but then further developing it, probably similar to Tesla for Elon), Google Chrome (top browser and dethroning Internet Explorer), Google cloud (one of top three cloud services), Google AI (by far the leading AI institution in the world), DeepMind (coolest AI institution in the world, though Google just bought and funded it), Waymo (leading autonomous driving company), Calico (one of the leading genetics companies) etc etc. Just that they are all under Alphabet, but the likes of Google search engine, GMail, Youtube, chrome, cloud would have been hundred billion companies on their own, as would likely be Google AI. Waymo would not been far off, considering that less developed autonomous driving companies like Argo AI, Cruise or Aurora are worth 10B or more.

And well, e-payments, electric cars and space rockets are different to each other, but so are emails, search engines, AI, autonomous cars or genetics.

Still have to hear people calling Larry Page a polymath.
Bezos?
Amazon and basically reinventing logistics (prime etc) / supply chain but also Amazon Robotics, Amazon Web services, Amazon TV ... Groceries now as well - (certainly a long way from online books)
Blue Origin
Biotech with AltosLabs
Washington Post
and a bunch of other investments through his venture capital company
 

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I think the most unique thing was that he did this in different companies, but when it comes to diversity, Larry Page and Sergey Brin did that too. And unlike Elon, they really had a strong computer science background, to be considered real experts there.

Google (search engine), GMail (the email provider), Youtube (buying it but then further developing it, probably similar to Tesla for Elon), Google Chrome (top browser and dethroning Internet Explorer), Google cloud (one of top three cloud services), Google AI (by far the leading AI institution in the world), DeepMind (coolest AI institution in the world, though Google just bought and funded it), Waymo (leading autonomous driving company), Calico (one of the leading genetics companies) etc etc. Just that they are all under Alphabet, but the likes of Google search engine, GMail, Youtube, chrome, cloud would have been hundred billion companies on their own, as would likely be Google AI. Waymo would not been far off, considering that less developed autonomous driving companies like Argo AI, Cruise or Aurora are worth 10B or more.

And well, e-payments, electric cars and space rockets are different to each other, but so are emails, search engines, AI, autonomous cars or genetics.

Still have to hear people calling Larry Page a polymath.
Page and Brin are certainly a bit under the radar compared to people like Musk, Zuckerberg or Gates, maybe you need to have this sort of polarizing personality if you want to get known today?
It was the same with Steve Jobs and Dennis Ritchie.
 

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Page and Brin are certainly a bit under the radar compared to people like Musk, Zuckerberg or Gates, maybe you need to have this sort of polarizing personality if you want to get known today?
It was the same with Steve Jobs and Dennis Ritchie.
Dennis Ritchie was not an entrepreneur to be fair. He was just (probably) the most impactful programmer of all time.

Page by all accounts is an introvert, and for the last few years they have essentially retired.
 

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Because several people called me out for labeling Musk a polymath.
I found quite some interesting articles that I mostly agree with and that show that calling him a polymath is at least not totally out of this world :p
However I'd say calling Musk a polymath or not depends on the definition of the word "polymath" regarding todays science and all the knowledge humankind assembled.
 

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Because several people called me out for labeling Musk a polymath.
I found quite some interesting articles that I mostly agree with and that show that calling him a polymath is at least not totally out of this world :p
However I'd say calling Musk a polymath or not depends on the definition of the word "polymath" regarding todays science and all the knowledge humankind assembled.
You are posting medium articles and quora post to prove some point. That’s same level as Facebook posts.
 

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You are posting medium articles and quora post to prove some point. That’s same level as Facebook posts.
There's people spreading bullshit and people sharing good content on every platform, what's your point?
Should all information on Twitter be dismissed just because there are many bots, trolls and extremists on all ends of the spectrum?
 

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I know I should probably feel the same about all sorts of idolatry (musicians, footballers, whatever) but I find idolising soon-to-be trillionaires so much more cringeworthy.
 

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I think the most unique thing was that he did this in different companies, but when it comes to diversity, Larry Page and Sergey Brin did that too. And unlike Elon, they really had a strong computer science background, to be considered real experts there.

Google (search engine), GMail (the email provider), Youtube (buying it but then further developing it, probably similar to Tesla for Elon), Google Chrome (top browser and dethroning Internet Explorer), Google cloud (one of top three cloud services), Google AI (by far the leading AI institution in the world), DeepMind (coolest AI institution in the world, though Google just bought and funded it), Waymo (leading autonomous driving company), Calico (one of the leading genetics companies) etc etc. Just that they are all under Alphabet, but the likes of Google search engine, GMail, Youtube, chrome, cloud would have been hundred billion companies on their own, as would likely be Google AI. Waymo would not been far off, considering that less developed autonomous driving companies like Argo AI, Cruise or Aurora are worth 10B or more.

And well, e-payments, electric cars and space rockets are different to each other, but so are emails, search engines, AI, autonomous cars or genetics.

Still have to hear people calling Larry Page a polymath.
They don't call him a polymath because google/gmail/youtube/chrome/cloud all come under the same bracket. You can even partially extend that to AI and auto driving. As someone who has worked on a few similar technologies over the years, I can say they might sound very different but the underlying expertise needed is very much similar if not same. Its not even a patch on Musk' diversity.

I am not going to defend him to death, but I don't think the Google founders are a good counter example.
 

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That's not polymath, that's being an entrepreneur. He's not an expert on all these themes, he's an expert in being a businessman. He knows how to manage and run businesses, and he has the creativty and ambition to think and create big ideas.. None of these, however, are remotely related to the term 'polymath".
I really don't get this strict separation "he's not a polymath at all, he's just a good entrepreneur in several vastly different industries".
Almost every entrepreneur and startup guide tells you that the most important aspects for being a good entrepreneur are ambition and deep knowledge of the industry/domain/product/whatever.
How can he be so successful as an entrepreneur in so many industries without deep knowledge about it?

Some posts ago I shared a story where he impressed two of his then most important engineers with constructions and budget plans for building rockets at Space X. Various Tesla engineers and software developers talked about being impressed with his technical knowledge. Take a look at many TV interviews or shareholder meetings where he was confronted with very specific technical questions and answered them with ease.

Many in here act like he did his MBA and juggles with numbers all day. I'm not saying he is the greatest engineer or developer every, but reducing him to being just a good business man just shows, that you didn't really took your time reading about him and probably just don't like him because of his antics on social media (which I also don't like and don't get because it only leads to many people dismissing his achievements, like in this thread).
 

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Why is he so hated on the caf?
His dad owned an emerald mine in South Africa with links to apartheid. It's the only reason he had money to even start things with basically zero risk.
Called that diver who rescued the cave boys a paedo.
Pays very little tax afaik and lobbies against tax changes.
The weird edge-lord things he does and acting like a 13 year old on Twitter. He's extremely petty.
Downplayed Covid. Then said he was making ventilators and never actually did.
Seems to try and manipulate the stock market by saying things on Twitter.
Has underpaid workers. Tried to ruin the life of a Tesla whistleblower. Workers have complained of unsafe conditions.
Neuralink thing has been accused of animal cruelty.

That's just off the top of my head.
 

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His dad owned an emerald mine in South Africa with links to apartheid. It's the only reason he had money to even start things with basically zero risk.
Called that diver who rescued the cave boys a paedo.
Pays very little tax afaik and lobbies against tax changes.
The weird edge-lord things he does and acting like a 13 year old on Twitter. He's extremely petty.
Downplayed Covid. Then said he was making ventilators and never actually did.
Seems to try and manipulate the stock market by saying things on Twitter.
Has underpaid workers. Tried to ruin the life of a Tesla whistleblower. Workers have complained of unsafe conditions.
Neuralink thing has been accused of animal cruelty.

That's just off the top of my head.
And he got to bang Grimes, the cnut.
 

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They don't call him a polymath because google/gmail/youtube/chrome/cloud all come under the same bracket. You can even partially extend that to AI and auto driving. As someone who has worked on a few similar technologies over the years, I can say they might sound very different but the underlying expertise needed is very much similar if not same. Its not even a patch on Musk' diversity.

I am not going to defend him to death, but I don't think the Google founders are a good counter example.
I have to completely disagree that the knowledge required is similar/same. I have a PhD in Machine Learning but would be totally useless in doing cloud computing for example.

I wouldn’t say that those things are as diverse as let’s say cars and rockets but my point was precisely that. They didn’t have technological contributions expect on the first product they made (Google search engine and Musk’s first company). From that point on, they were managers and despite producing different things, in all of them they were managing, not building those products themselves.
 

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His dad owned an emerald mine in South Africa with links to apartheid. It's the only reason he had money to even start things with basically zero risk.
Called that diver who rescued the cave boys a paedo.
Pays very little tax afaik and lobbies against tax changes.
The weird edge-lord things he does and acting like a 13 year old on Twitter. He's extremely petty.
Downplayed Covid. Then said he was making ventilators and never actually did.
Seems to try and manipulate the stock market by saying things on Twitter.
Has underpaid workers. Tried to ruin the life of a Tesla whistleblower. Workers have complained of unsafe conditions.
Neuralink thing has been accused of animal cruelty.

That's just off the top of my head.
You might hate him but not change history. He is as self-made billionaire as someone can be, and his wealth has nothing to do with his father being rich, considering that he even self-funded his studies.
 

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You might hate him but not change history. He is as self-made billionaire as someone can be, and his wealth has nothing to do with his father being rich, considering that he even self-funded his studies.
So not, then.
 

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It was a 50-50 merge between his company and Peter Thiel's company. Elon was originally the CEO, but got replaced in favor of Thiel half a year later.
I meant Musk wanted to keep the actual name X.com rather than changing it to PayPal. I'm sure I heard it somewhere.
 

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His dad owned an emerald mine in South Africa with links to apartheid. It's the only reason he had money to even start things with basically zero risk.
Called that diver who rescued the cave boys a paedo.
Pays very little tax afaik and lobbies against tax changes.
The weird edge-lord things he does and acting like a 13 year old on Twitter. He's extremely petty.
Downplayed Covid. Then said he was making ventilators and never actually did.
Seems to try and manipulate the stock market by saying things on Twitter.
Has underpaid workers. Tried to ruin the life of a Tesla whistleblower. Workers have complained of unsafe conditions.
Neuralink thing has been accused of animal cruelty.

That's just off the top of my head.
Not getting into a debate on Elon but on the tax point the rich are very efficient by being paid in things like stock whilst companies generate income across the globe so the system is broke and it isn't easy to fix unrealised gains (as you probably know).

Also this tax year gone, Elon said he paid approx 11 billion in tax (because of the way he was exercising an option on Tesla stock).

The rest are fair.

I personally like his contribution to making sustainable energy commercially viable sooner (solar, batteries, sat internet, cars, and battery tech) compared to other governments and people who could've done more.
 

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Assuming they decline the offer, this may potentially open up other companies to make offers like a Microsoft. It has highlighted issues with Twitter that need addressing.
They cant deny the offer. It'll destroy Twitter. Musk has boxed them in.

Reckon the first thing he's going to do is unban Trump
 

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Not getting into a debate on Elon but on the tax point the rich are very efficient by being paid in things like stock whilst companies generate income across the globe so the system is broke and it isn't easy to fix unrealised gains (as you probably know).

Also this tax year gone, Elon said he paid approx 11 billion in tax (because of the way he was exercising an option on Tesla stock).

The rest are fair.

I personally like his contribution to making sustainable energy commercially viable sooner (solar, batteries, sat internet, cars, and battery tech) compared to other governments and people who could've done more.
He'a fraud
 

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They cant deny the offer. It'll destroy Twitter. Musk has boxed them in.

Reckon the first thing he's going to do is unban Trump
Would fit in with what he's been saying about free speech... suspect he will let it be a free for all pile on... unless you point out a submarine won't fit through a tunnel then you will be called a peado and banned
 

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Well I think he's a big petulant man-child egomaniac sociopathic cuntbag genius :D

This is probably controversial but for me he's the greatest polymath of our time, maybe even the biggest since da Vinci, I'm serious.
If Leonardo da Vinci was around today you’d still have the same people saying he was only able to do what he did because of rich patronage or government subsidy.
 

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If Leonardo da Vinci was around today you’d still have the same people saying he was only able to do what he did because of rich patronage or government subsidy.
But you'd also have his cult worshiping the time he took a massive dump, looked in the pan, and in his drug addled mind thought it would solve mass transportation. Or save kids trapped in a cave.
 

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If Leonardo da Vinci was around today you’d still have the same people saying he was only able to do what he did because of rich patronage or government subsidy.
We'd have people calling Sforza a polymath because he hired people like da Vinci.