And Martinez won the world cup being easily the best goalkeeper in the world cup, including making the best high-impact save of all time.We're not talking about VDS here. But since you brought it up, he was already a successful keeper at a top club before Fulham.
VDS was not good at Juve and they upgraded over him. He was successful at Ajax like 10 years earlier. He played what, 4 seasons for Fulham