Feck, they went missing last night. Slim chance of finding them alive. 
Emiliano Sala: Rest In Peace
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Fearing the worst but hoping for the best!
Here here. C'mon guys, make it through.
Horrible news. Hope everything turns out OK. Is it just me or the frequency of airplane crashes gone up the last 5-6 years?
Been missing for over 12 hours. There's only one likely outcome here unfortunately.
Think it's just you. 2017 was the safest year on record for aviation.
They have not, the coverage of them has. Much like most things, we now have much more access to worldwide news so it seems like more is happening when in some cases the opposite is true. 2017 was the safest year for air travel in history. Don't know the data for 2018.
No, you just hear about every crash these days because of the media coverage.
Still comfortably the safest mode of transport.
Dreadful news, regardless of who is on that aircraft. But it does bring it home, when it is somebody we have at least heard of.
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Probably just seems that way because news coverage is more pervasive than ever, and more people have access to these small planes than ever before. Qualifications required to fly them are much less than what's required to fly airliners.
I'd focus on fretting about your morning drive to work. It's still infinitely more dangerous than flying will ever be
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Christ, this is awful. As others have said it would have been the biggest move of his career and this happens .
Still have to hope he's somehow OK, but with something like this where they can't seem to even find the wreckage it doesn't seem likely. Horrible situation, feel for his family.
.Still have to hope he's somehow OK, but with something like this where they can't seem to even find the wreckage it doesn't seem likely. Horrible situation, feel for his family.
It's crazy how media coverage can skew perception, I too had felt like plane crashes were more frequent in recent years.Just you:
Probably just seems that way because news coverage is more pervasive than ever, and more people have access to these small planes than ever before. Qualifications required to fly them are much less than what's required to fly airliners.
Glad it's not the case, and I can just continue to be a media-sceptic.
Hopefully a positive outcome comes from this terrible situation
1 in sixteen million apparently, now. It was apparently 1 in two million in 2013. 2014 was another bad year.
Compared to the late 70's, these figures are an incredible improvement. Much more chance of dying, driving to the airport.
Planes are certainly very safe, but the fact is when you have so many planes making journeys every year there's bound to be the odd accident. You can't account for freak bad luck, modern airlines do pretty much everything they can possibly do to safety proof their aircraft.
Disappeared over the sea, in the middle of fecking winter.
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I know @EmilianoSala1. I call him and he doesn't answer his phone. Type of 1st in and out of the. @CardiffCityFC he fears the worst. Air Control of the island of Guernsey confirms Q the pilot requested emergency landing at 20:30h Local. Intensive search on the spot channel
Not looking good at all... hope its just false alarm
The other day my mum receive several SOS signal from my sister phone calling for help, with audio recording of plane engine and google map in the airport sending to us... which get us worried.. turns out she mis-click the SOS button when she is switching off her phone before her plane was taking off...
The other day my mum receive several SOS signal from my sister phone calling for help, with audio recording of plane engine and google map in the airport sending to us... which get us worried.. turns out she mis-click the SOS button when she is switching off her phone before her plane was taking off...
Awful
Well it seems the pilot called for an emergency landing last night and they haven’t been seen since so not looking good
Only one likely outcome here, unfortunately.
But surely they'll find the plane rather sooner than later? It's not like they have a gigantic area to cover this time...
But surely they'll find the plane rather sooner than later? It's not like they have a gigantic area to cover this time...
When the pilot requested an emergency landing they were at 5K feet in the air, when the plane lost contact they were at 2.3K feet in the air.
A lot of unlucky things need to happen for the plane to lose radio contact while still being in the air.
Meanwhile:
"The French civil aviation authority says Argentine soccer player Emiliano Sala WAS aboard a small passenger plane that went missing off the coast of the island of Guernsey.
French and British maritime authorities are continuing to search the English Channel for the plane."
A lot of unlucky things need to happen for the plane to lose radio contact while still being in the air.
Meanwhile:
"The French civil aviation authority says Argentine soccer player Emiliano Sala WAS aboard a small passenger plane that went missing off the coast of the island of Guernsey.
French and British maritime authorities are continuing to search the English Channel for the plane."
Holy shit, this is really genuine isn't it? what a tragic story.
I've seen jokes like "anything to not sign for Neil Warnock" but I thought it was just a silly paper story, like he'd turned around or decided not to answer their calls.
I've seen jokes like "anything to not sign for Neil Warnock" but I thought it was just a silly paper story, like he'd turned around or decided not to answer their calls.
These reports only end one way.
Just tragic.
Just tragic.
But far more likely to survive a car crash.
Nantes have cancelled their next home match, doubt they'd do that without any real news. They probably know but they want to wait for the official report.
feck this is sad.
Usually when there's no response for such a long time, then there's only one possible outcome.
Usually when there's no response for such a long time, then there's only one possible outcome.
I don't think you understood.
Much, much, much more chance of DYING driving to the airport, not just crashing.
I know but it’s a pretty pointless thing to say.
Fear of flying stems from the knowledge that if something goes wrong you’re almost certainly f*cked.
It's pretty obvious it's not a false alarm, it's been 14 hours with no sign of life after they requested an emergency landing and radio contact was lost with the plane going missing.
Given the time and area, height when it went missing, there's unfortunately 0 chance that there's any survivors. Tragic
That's because they don't occur 1 to 1.
Plane crashes are more likely to be fatal than car crashes.
One instantly fears the worst in these cases but I think there's still a bit of hope. If the pilot asked for an emergency landing but couldn't make it to the airport he must have still had control when the problems began, so possibly he managed a "controlled" ditching. The fact nothing has been found yet also at least leaves open the possibility that the plane hit the water as one (and hopefully slowly), debris of high velocity crashes or in air failures is a lot easier to find than 1 sunken airplane.
I'm obviously clutching at straws but given that this is only 12h ago i'm not giving up hope yet. I hope they're found in life-vests or clinging onto something.
I'm obviously clutching at straws but given that this is only 12h ago i'm not giving up hope yet. I hope they're found in life-vests or clinging onto something.
I'd like to see a similar comparison where normal passenger flights are excluded, only looking at microplanes like the one that's involved in this accident.
I assume those numbers are for all aircraft worldwide? I wonder what the numbers look like specifically for these small 2 seater planes in isolation rather than them being bundled in with much larger/safer and more technically advanced aircraft with, i'd assume, more experienced pilots.Just you:
Probably just seems that way because news coverage is more pervasive than ever, and more people have access to these small planes than ever before. Qualifications required to fly them are much less than what's required to fly airliners.
Hoping for the best obviously, but regardless of what happens this sounds like awful news. Sala was having such a strong season too, would be such a big upgrade for Cardiff and give them a chance at surviving
I doubt they'd have any chance of survival in the English channel in rough seas in the middle of winter, even for a couple of hours.
Fatal car crashes are still a lot more likely than plane crashes. It's not a comparison of all car crashes, just fatal ones.
I will try again. It is safer to fly than to drive......... much, much, much safer.
Nobody is talking about fear of flying, except you, trying to make a point that escapes me.
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They lost all contact on radar while it was at 2,500 feet, that's a bad sign. And small debris isn't always a lot easier to find. 12 hours might seem like a short period of time, but it's in the channel without survival suits. They'd be struggling even with 1/4 of that time.
Thanks Nick, somebody that understands a simple observation.