I really liked Emre Can when he played for us and was disappointed to lose him. I think it would be a decent signing for you guys in January as he would definitely improve your current midfield. He might not be the world class signing you guys want but are you in the position to sign those types of players anymore.
Emre Can
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Can is a solid squad player, but he's nothing more than that. He left liverpool because he was unrealistic about his own abilities and thought he deserved a bigger role in a bigger squad (at the time).
His attitude was always good, even the last few months at liverpool, and he works hard, but he isn't really outstanding at any one thing. Henderson and Wijnaldum are not very creative, but they put in the same level of effort, are better athletes, and don't make as many mistakes with the ball. Fabinho has locked down the holding midfield role and can haunt been missed at all.
I think he would marginally improve United, but I dont think he is the type of player you need. In my opinion, his lack of elite qualities mean that he's not really going to fit as a quality starter in any system for a club that competes for major trophies.
If United want a 6, they need someone with better positioning, and if they want an 8, they need someone with more quickness and better decisionmaking.
I do think he would help a good bit with the effort and culture inside the club, but I do think he'd add to United's problem of having a bunch of pieces that don't fit together and function worse as a unit than their talents indicate.
His attitude was always good, even the last few months at liverpool, and he works hard, but he isn't really outstanding at any one thing. Henderson and Wijnaldum are not very creative, but they put in the same level of effort, are better athletes, and don't make as many mistakes with the ball. Fabinho has locked down the holding midfield role and can haunt been missed at all.
I think he would marginally improve United, but I dont think he is the type of player you need. In my opinion, his lack of elite qualities mean that he's not really going to fit as a quality starter in any system for a club that competes for major trophies.
If United want a 6, they need someone with better positioning, and if they want an 8, they need someone with more quickness and better decisionmaking.
I do think he would help a good bit with the effort and culture inside the club, but I do think he'd add to United's problem of having a bunch of pieces that don't fit together and function worse as a unit than their talents indicate.
I said this back when he left Liverpool. Can would prove to be a better player than Keita for Liverpool. While Keita would still come good, Keita hasn't been pulling trees either.Needless to say, I was laughed off by resident Liverpool fans because they were getting a new shiny toy.
For 35m, I hope we stay away. We can do better.
For 35m, I hope we stay away. We can do better.
How can you look at our midfield and not want him? He’d take us from a relegation worthy midfield 3 to a mid table one
No thanks. I get that we’re desperate but have a bit of self respect ffs
Because, if there is money to spend , then get some quality replacements in .
I honestly don't know.
I remember him not being rated by Liverpool or opposition fans particularly highly but I also do not claim to have paid much attention to him myself. I do recall Juve's signing of him was considered a bit of a coup given the cost/outlay of the transfer and the player's profile.
Why hasn't it panned out for him at Juve? Has he flopped or is it something else?
I remember him not being rated by Liverpool or opposition fans particularly highly but I also do not claim to have paid much attention to him myself. I do recall Juve's signing of him was considered a bit of a coup given the cost/outlay of the transfer and the player's profile.
Why hasn't it panned out for him at Juve? Has he flopped or is it something else?
Emre Can was signed on a free from Bayern to Liverpool, and on a free from Liverpool to Juventus. He runs down contracts to maximise his salary. Which means that he's on a high salary at Juve and won't come cheap at United either (on top of the transfer fee).
All of this is secondary to the main point that he is utter dross. Juve didn't even register him for the CL. Liverpool association aside, he's not the player to energize our midfield.
I don't think he's utter dross, but I'm not convinced he would be a good fit for us. I am sure he would be an upgrade on Fred for example, but if that's the benchmark.... we'd do well to find someone who wasn't an upgrade.
Yes aside from the transfer fee, he will want his inflated salary increased too - which he wouldn't be worthy of.Is this the start of a wad of threads where people gag to sign ANY central midfielder?
Last seen in the day before we bought the Schmidfield?
Last seen in the day before we bought the Schmidfield?
Sooner have Zakaria if we can get him.
No thanks
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He's not a world beater but he's a decent player whose very versatile and is EPL proven. He did well under Allegri and would have been a regular at Juve if Sarriball didn't came in. I think we can drop the fee to 30m which is peanuts considering the likes of Longstaff and Rice are being rated at 50m-70m a pop
The rebuild will take an outrageous amount of new players both at first team level and as reserves. We can't be spending 50m+ for each one of them.
Just put him on a 2-year contract max and sell Matic do Inter. But only if there is no other defensive midfielder coming in. Matic had problems against Kristiansund in preseason ffs, its an upgrade no doubt.
I hope this isn't a possible target pre-empting Allegri coming here.
A pretty good player with scope to improve and has good experience already. We desperately need a good holding midfielder that can use the ball well and there are few of those around.
He moved to Leverkusen from Bayern for 5m€ and then moved to liverpool the next year for 12m€. There was no running down of contracts.
This..
TBF it also fits Ole/United way's philosophy (EPL proven, fairly young player, versatile, value)
Well , it will take couple of years anyway to rebuild. Then why cant we take our time and do it?
If he was half decent, Juve would have included him in CL squad though, right ? Something doesn't add up.
Mostly what he's struggled with has been staying healthy
Though Sarri clearly doesn't particularly rate him
Assuming it was his decision and not the club's, to exclude him from CL lists. Seems to have been Sarri though
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A- You might not notice but our midfield is cack and need some serious injection of new players. Now why should we spend 50m-70m for players (ie Longstaff/Rice) that are equal/inferior to Can?
B- Can was a regular with Juventus, playing 29 games (20 as a first teamer) and scoring 4 goals which included a goal vs Napoli. He was frozen up by Sarri because he doesn't fit in the Sarriball philosophy
Dunno about that. And please stop with the sarriball. Sarriball isn't a thing.
I remember thinking he was an utterly pointless player when he was at liverpool, kind of like a more defensive Andre Gomes.
Loan move, not purchase. With an option to buy preferably to avoid getting fleeced if he settles well. Let him get some minutes on the field and prove he’d be a good fit before splashing cash on him.
As others have mentioned he’d be on high salary due to his habit of running his contract down and transferring on a free. We might be desperate for a midfielder or two, but he should be desperate to get some action as well so it could work.
As others have mentioned he’d be on high salary due to his habit of running his contract down and transferring on a free. We might be desperate for a midfielder or two, but he should be desperate to get some action as well so it could work.
Well according to many Juventus supporters that is the issue. Emre Can stated that he was told he's not going to be in the CL team in a call that lasted less then 60 seconds That's not how you treat a player.
Think, for 35m and wages of 100k+ we can certainly do better.
They have Pjanic(untouchable for Sarri), Bentancour(juventus have big hopes for him), rabiot(just signed, expensive), ramsey(ditto, also can play in the AM role), Khedira and Matuidi(old, experienced, tactically brilliant) and Can. With juventus having a need to offload one of them, it's easy to see why it would be Can
Im sending you a video which goes in detail of why (according to a Juventus fan) Emre Can is being frozen out. And yes, Sarriball is mentioned.
35m + 100k salary is peanuts for a versatile 25 year old German international. Longstaff would probably cost us nearly double that amount.
As a bandaid I wont mind.
Just dont get the point of selling average plan b players like blind and fellaini to replace them with more of the same
Just dont get the point of selling average plan b players like blind and fellaini to replace them with more of the same
He would be an upgrade on Fred, Pereira, Matic. Would be our third best midfielder after Pogba, McTominay. Does not say much though, the midfield is shambolic.
Liverpool cast offs is now where we are. Absolute state of it. And the fact he's better than most of what we have in midfield is criminal.
The whole recruitment team and Woodward should be fired when Ole goes. Absolutely pathetic.
The whole recruitment team and Woodward should be fired when Ole goes. Absolutely pathetic.
Underwhelming and not good enough. Just because he's better than the likes of Fred and Matic it doesn't mean we should be in for him.
I didn’t realize he was still so young. I thought he did well at Liverpool and would certainly improve our current midfield but that isn’t really saying much. I do think we need to aim higher though and the fact that he isn’t even in their Champions League squad is worrying. Wouldn’t mind a loan until the end of the season or something though.
Terrible player. I’d take Sean Wagstaff over him.
Pretty good for an 'average' player, that too playing as a CB.
That being said, do we really need him? He's not good enough to be a starter for a title winning team but certainly good enough to be a vital squad player. But we don't really need more squad players do we? Fred is already being wasted on the bench, he can still be a squad player so having Can would essentially be having the same player.
If we didn't have Fred or Mctominay, I would certainly want him for 35 mil but not with the current squad we have.
But he's certainly not an average player though. A good box to box CM but added versatility, a great squad player.
No thanks, we're desperate but not that desperate.
'He's better than what we have'.....still not good enough to be challenging for league titles, honestly if we can't get players in for to drive us to that next level I wouldn't bother.
You know what a team full of Emra Can level players would win? feck all. We're going down that path of recruiting shite again.
Wank player, feck it I said it.
'He's better than what we have'.....still not good enough to be challenging for league titles, honestly if we can't get players in for to drive us to that next level I wouldn't bother.
You know what a team full of Emra Can level players would win? feck all. We're going down that path of recruiting shite again.
Wank player, feck it I said it.
Panic buy 100% the fact that Juve have cast him off and can easily replace him for loads of cash considering he was a free transfer for Juve.
There were players identified for central midfield during the summer (and before that), then not even 4 months after the season starts this guy pops up in transfer rumors to United the same summer he was signed by Juve on a free.
This is the shit that you cannot overlook and you cannot place entirely on the manager, regardless who it is. I understand it's dire and desperate times, but feck sakes man alive. You couldn't identify and sign a player for relatively the same cost and talent during the summer? Hector Herrera, de Roon at Atalanta?
There were players identified for central midfield during the summer (and before that), then not even 4 months after the season starts this guy pops up in transfer rumors to United the same summer he was signed by Juve on a free.
This is the shit that you cannot overlook and you cannot place entirely on the manager, regardless who it is. I understand it's dire and desperate times, but feck sakes man alive. You couldn't identify and sign a player for relatively the same cost and talent during the summer? Hector Herrera, de Roon at Atalanta?