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You don't want to be getting out cheaply on this wicket in the first innings. Absolute road.
You mean the lad that averages 69 in first class cricket? Apparently he’s about the same size as Johnny Bairstow’s Dad and there’s some concerns about his professionalism on the fitness side I’ve been told by somebody who claims to be in the know.Surprised India haven't picked that lad who averages like 80.
Also quite glad Washington Sundar isn't playing. I don't really know how good he is, but he averaged something like 80 with the bat and 10 with the ball last time he played England. Having Axar at 6 is a lot less intimidating that having him come in at 9.
Edit: checked and he didn't get many wickets. Not sure why I misremembered thay
Last 3 years he averages like 86.. overall numbers look low as earlier he wasnt in this sort of purple patchYou mean the lad that averages 69 in first class cricket? Apparently he’s about the same size as Johnny Bairstow’s Dad and there’s some concerns about his professionalism on the fitness side I’ve been told by somebody who claims to be in the know.
Thanks for the reverse mockers!Hartley has bowled really poorly today. No consistency in length. Very tough pitch for a spinner to bowl on for now though.
India on top now. This deck has to be 450 par?
Still think all of the above applies!Thanks for the reverse mockers!
Played at a really good tempo today.Really impressed by Jaiswal, he looks some player.
I think you’re dead right. I don’t think he can control his lengths. If Hartley learns to control that, and he’s still learning his trade, he could be a good spinner.Still think all of the above applies!
Good call! You’re on form this morning.Might be a pitch for a wrist spinner. Surprised it's been 54 overs with no Rehan. Suppose it's that flat he could go at 6s.
At work.. haven't seen a delivery yet.. will be watching over the weekend@fans of India? Plenty of you about when we were 2-0 down in the Ashes?
*Cheap dig - soz, but it is quiet in here!
A one man show today - but what an innings. India need him to make it a double century and a few more tomorrow.At work.. haven't seen a delivery yet.. will be watching over the weekend
Our strategy of picking 2 batters doesn't seem to be working at first glance
I agree with this. I see Cricinfo calling it England's day but with Jaiswal still there + our bowlers will improve this test + England batting last.. I think this is even right now.A one man show today - but what an innings. India need him to make it a double century and a few more tomorrow.
This pitch will only deteriorate from day 3 onwards you would assume so England will need to bat very well first innings.
Bumrah / Ashwin will look different to our lads on this pitch as they are a class above.
Agree. Should be our day unless Bazball makes it look shit on Day 2 when England bat.I agree with this. I see Cricinfo calling it England's day but with Jaiswal still there + our bowlers will improve this test + England batting last.. I think this is even right now.
The one thing definitely in England's favour(other than the scorecard where England have had the better day) is that your attacking style can put us out of the game on day 2/3. It comes off very well on flat pitches(I'm assuming this is one for now based on the comments here) and can win games.
I was wondering about that - how come they didnt stop at 90?More than 90 overs bowled in a day?! Never thought I'd live to see the day.
It's a minimum of 90 overs. So if you've got spinners on from both ends and rush through the overs you can go well beyond 90 overs before reaching the scheduled close of play.I was wondering about that - how come they didnt stop at 90?
OK.. TIL the meaning of the word 'minimum' on all those scorecardsIt's a minimum of 90 overs. So if you've got spinners on from both ends and rush through the overs you can go well beyond 90 overs before reaching the scheduled close of play.
I see a lot of parallels with India's current batting line up and England's from a few years ago. Big, experienced players out, out of form, or no longer selected. Kohli and Rohit both mid 30s, as are Pujara and Rahane who haven't had a look in. Is it fair to say it's a side in transition? Gill and Iyer are both young and fairly inexperienced at Test level, on paper seems they have made their name more in white ball? Success at Test level isn't a guarantee and isn't going to be instant. The classic 30 year journeyman/late bloomer selection is such a pre-Bazball England thing to do as well (Malan, Denly). However, Jaiswal looks like a generational talent who exceeds in all formats at a young age though. In a few years it looks like it will be a quality batting line up, but in the meantime it could really benefit from one or two more of the old guard to lead the way.The witch hunt of Shubman Gill on Indian social media is insane
Gill will come good - he's extremely talented. Iyer, I'm not so sure about, he's also 29 so isn't even that young. Shame we refuse to play Sarfaraz who has been ripping up the domestic league for a few years.I see a lot of parallels with India's current batting line up and England's from a few years ago. Big, experienced players out, out of form, or no longer selected. Kohli and Rohit both mid 30s, as are Pujara and Rahane who haven't had a look in. Is it fair to say it's a side in transition? Gill and Iyer are both young and fairly inexperienced at Test level, on paper seems they have made their name more in white ball? Success at Test level isn't a guarantee and isn't going to be instant. The classic 30 year journeyman/late bloomer selection is such a pre-Bazball England thing to do as well (Malan, Denly). However, Jaiswal looks like a generational talent who exceeds in all formats at a young age though. In a few years it looks like it will be a quality batting line up, but in the meantime it could really benefit from one or two more of the old guard to lead the way.
I do like how we realised that rank turners might not be the way since we can't bat either. We threw it away at the end today so England just ahead.@fans of India? Plenty of you about when we were 2-0 down in the Ashes?
*Cheap dig - soz, but it is quiet in here!
We are definitely in transition but I expect us to field a pretty competitive batting lineup in a few years time. There are some players outside this 11 who are real contenders like Ruturaj and Varma. Gill is good - most indian batters who come good go through a stage of looking all at sea to the swinging ball. Virat went through it, Rohit did, KL did.I see a lot of parallels with India's current batting line up and England's from a few years ago. Big, experienced players out, out of form, or no longer selected. Kohli and Rohit both mid 30s, as are Pujara and Rahane who haven't had a look in. Is it fair to say it's a side in transition? Gill and Iyer are both young and fairly inexperienced at Test level, on paper seems they have made their name more in white ball? Success at Test level isn't a guarantee and isn't going to be instant. The classic 30 year journeyman/late bloomer selection is such a pre-Bazball England thing to do as well (Malan, Denly). However, Jaiswal looks like a generational talent who exceeds in all formats at a young age though. In a few years it looks like it will be a quality batting line up, but in the meantime it could really benefit from one or two more of the old guard to lead the way.
I was surprised to see your favourite batsmen the ‘Indian Don Bradman’ not playing in this match.We are definitely in transition but I expect us to field a pretty competitive batting lineup in a few years time. There are some players outside this 11 who are real contenders like Ruturaj and Varma. Gill is good - most indian batters who come good go through a stage of looking all at sea to the swinging ball. Virat went through it, Rohit did, KL did.
I think bowling is the real worry. India were lucky to produce a group of 3-4 good pacers which has never happened before. There are some promising ones on the horizon. Spin, however, there isn’t much now. From Ashwin/Jadeja to whomever comes next will be a big step down.
also, unpopularity for this thread, I think Shreyas Iyer is a great batter in Asian conditions and I expect he will be important for us. Don’t see him being useful away though.
They’re already pitting Jaisawal against Gill like they do with every other pair of wonderfully talented cricketers and I find it very, very weird.The witch hunt of Shubman Gill on Indian social media is insane
Me too - bit weird of us to pick another seamerI was surprised to see your favourite batsmen the ‘Indian Don Bradman’ not playing in this match.
Hasn’t he replaced Siraj though? And Kuldeep has replaced Jadeja so you’ve still got the same bowling balance as the first test. It’s Patidar who has come in instead of Sarfraz.Me too - bit weird of us to pick another seamer
I was very curious to see Sarfaraz bat
But Mukesh has a good average in domestic cricket and I think he is a bit like Mohammed Abbas -- he might surprise us in this test