Foakes is averaging less than Bairstow and Buttler and he hasn't even faced a top team yet.
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He’s also much better at you know, keeping the wicket, than those two.
Also averaging fewer catches per game than Buttler.
If you're good at stumping people you will average fewer catches won't you? That and Butter has actually played in some decent England bowling attacks from time to time.
Ollie Pope hs to be under a bit of pressure. He's not torn up any trees in the middle order never mind at 3 with 2 average openers ahead of him. Crawley is reckless with his driving and I don't mind Lees but i watched a lot of him at Yorkshire and i do feel he can get bogged down and restricted by a class attack. He never struck me as a player with vast array of shots.
Pope seems to be one of those players everyone pegs as 'class' but always seems to find a way of getting out after a start. Could be another who flatters to deceive ala Ramprakash, Vince etc.
Pope seems to be one of those players everyone pegs as 'class' but always seems to find a way of getting out after a start. Could be another who flatters to deceive ala Ramprakash, Vince etc.
I would guess the reason they keep beating the Pope drum is they have some inclination he is class and we have a real dearth of batsman with impressive FC averages. He is one of the few that do. It hasn't worked so far, though. Him at 3 looks weird to me, he doesn't strike me as a 3.
To me it's a massive shame Butter hasn't really adapted to red ball cricket. In my mind he should be able to average 40 and be capable of game changing innings. There's no good reason he shouldn't be able to, he's got all the talent, all the shots. But I think sticking with Foakes is the right choice for now, he's averaging 28 - he needs to add at least another 7 to that but that isn't insurmountable and he's a good keeper.
To me it's a massive shame Butter hasn't really adapted to red ball cricket. In my mind he should be able to average 40 and be capable of game changing innings. There's no good reason he shouldn't be able to, he's got all the talent, all the shots. But I think sticking with Foakes is the right choice for now, he's averaging 28 - he needs to add at least another 7 to that but that isn't insurmountable and he's a good keeper.
It's the head he hasn't got. Bats well when attacking with the tail or when batting for a draw. He's never worked out how to play a normal innings though. Assume he overthinks it.
That was easy. No idea what Young was up to.
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good toss to lose. we’d have been 3 down by now.
They're 2 down, so all good
Six slips 
Three down.
Turns out picking the two guys with over 1000 combined test wickets is a good idea after all.
Turns out picking the two guys with over 1000 combined test wickets is a good idea after all.
I’ve said it for years, you always pick your best third slip
Potts gets Williamson with his fifth ball in test cricket. 12/4
Lovely for Potts.
NZ have been fecking awful.
NZ have been fecking awful.
Getting Kane as your first wicket in your first test and first over, can't get much better than that
Anderson and Broad playing with a chip on their shoulder
... at Lords?
I almost went to Lords for this test but decided it was too expensive. 12-4 and a lad on debut just got Williamson out. Almost silent 10 seconds later
It's farcical. They try all sorts of gimmicky shite to get people into cricket and then price those very same people out of test cricket.I almost went to Lords for this test but decided it was too expensive. 12-4 and a lad on debut just got Williamson out. Almost silent 10 seconds later
You don't go to Lords for a rowdy atmosphere. It's a brilliant day out regardless, fantastic ground.I almost went to Lords for this test but decided it was too expensive. 12-4 and a lad on debut just got Williamson out. Almost silent 10 seconds later
I can ignore the snootyness mainly.
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Lords is so ridiculously far down the list of places I’d go to to watch cricket. Does absolutely nothing for me at all.I almost went to Lords for this test but decided it was too expensive. 12-4 and a lad on debut just got Williamson out. Almost silent 10 seconds later
Have you been? On paper I should hate it but I think it's superb tbh.
Can even take in your own booze.
Of course, but I’d expect a little more given the state of the match.
Somewhere that I’d like to go once to tick it off the list. For that price I’d want to guarantee sun though and looking at the forecast for Saturday, I’m glad I didn’t do it.
Leach concussion confirmed. Matt Parkinson surely in the car down now.
Potts gets Mitchell as I type this
Potts gets Mitchell as I type this
Hope he's okay and the worst for him is missing out. It's gotta be Parkinson, surely, yeah. I don't know why they're talking about Moeen, on the telly. I would hope that wouldn't be allowed, if we were to try it.
Have these lot been watching us play cricket?
Guessing he has to be replaced by a bowler rather than Brook?
Yeah.
“Like for like replacement” so Brook isn’t allowed. Don’t think the ref would allow Moeen either due to his batting record.
They take it serious enough that commentary are doubting Parkinson would be allowed because he’s a leggie which would leave… Callum Parkinson? Dom Bess?
If its like for like I assume the replacement also has to be shite?
If it's literally gotta be a slow left armer that seems far too strict to work for touring sides.
so Bess is definitely a shout
Yeah I’m expecting they’ll just allow “spinner who can’t bat”
EDIT: which going off red ball records would mean Liam Livingstone is a shout too
Potts bowling some good areas on day-boo. Good so far, but we've seen England let sides off the hook from four or five down.
I went for a domestic T20 game 5 years ago.. Hampshire v Middlesex or something. Stadium was fantastic. The weekend before I did the stadium tour as well and that was amazing too.
The tour guide asked the group to name the only player to have his name up on the home and away honours board at Lords both -- and I knew the answer to it..
Now you’ve got me racking my brain, Boyd Rankin?