Gythio
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Great news! Should be a regular for us really, quality is there
We should have the Phil Jones testimonial to pay for Bailly’s wages.Hopefully his medical bills, sorry, wages, come out of the Phil Jones memorial fund.
Bailly had 2 long term injuries back to back? Since then he's had a few niggles but nothing that's kept him out long term.Luke Shaw broke his leg, it's not the same, you afford someone that time to recover.
This has Phil Jones energy all over it, which I was also wildly against.
This is the problem. We should either get a young talent, or someone who improves us, or someone reliable who can be backup/compete/rotate.The defensive Lingard. How many people realise he is older than Lindelof. I don't mind Eric and I hope he stays fit but he is not suddenly going to find another level and he does not improve us at all. The reality is that this is as clear an indication as we have had that despite the press gossip we won't be signing a new CB this summer.
Me too especially the Phil Jones comps after some standout performances when he has played latelyI'm surprised to see so many people against him signing a new contract, it makes a lot more sense than letting him go for free. He's also our best defensive centreback when he's fit, unlike Jones when he was renewed. There's still time for Bailly to make it here.
Well the reason he isn't is also the same reason we should have let him go this summer.Great news! Should be a regular for us really, quality is there
Best defender we have. By far. Hope he can stay fit. This 6 at the back to protect our 2 statue CB's needs to end. Scooby-Fred will prevent us from winning anything.
I agree but it hardly matters since he’s always injured.I still think if he managed to say fit, he could be a top defender. Also he's a good influence in the team
As long as he's on reasonable wages, I don't mind us giving him a contract
it’s also just until 2024. Give him another year. He’s spoken about staying fit and healthy so he knows the issue. If he doesn’t do it can have no complaints if replaced and by then he’s got just two years left.I'm surprised to see so many people against him signing a new contract, it makes a lot more sense than letting him go for free. He's also our best defensive centreback when he's fit, unlike Jones when he was renewed. There's still time for Bailly to make it here.
I'm not sure that this is true. Not the kind of insurance I personally work in, but I've only ever seem claims on career-ending injuries showing up in our business. And they're eye-watering.Do people believe that clubs don't have disability policies on all of their players who are paid wages?
I get that a player's unavailability due to injury is problematic and that's fair but wages aren't an impact. If a player can't report for duty due to injury their wages will be covered by a short or long term disability insurance solution (just like in any organization).
It would be a surprise to me if clubs operated without it. Whether they have a self-funded plan or a policy with an insurer you'd be a fool to not mitigate against losing an employee to injury or illness at the wages we pay. You can absorb a week every now and again but for longer term stuff where a player misses 4-8 weeks or more you'd want to transfer that risk.I'm not sure that this is true. Not the kind of insurance I personally work in, but I've only ever seem claims on career-ending injuries showing up in our business. And they're eye-watering.
But I seriously doubt this happens during a season. Like United claim every week that Pogba misses etc.
Would be interested to learn otherwise.
I agree with this opinion. Frankly I'm baffled that we aim to renew Bailly while we seem desperate for an upgrade in CB. Current pecking order is:This is the problem. We should either get a young talent, or someone who improves us, or someone reliable who can be backup/compete/rotate.
Bailly is not young, does not improve us, and is not reliable. But if the intention was to invest money in other parts of the team and not get any new CB, this makes sense. I doubt he would sign if there were plans to sign a new CB this summer.
Did he play on his own?Good stuff. Has outperformed the regular CB pairing multiple times. Hopefully gets a real chance if the team is picked on merit
Just this season he's had about 4-5 injuries, a car crash and Covid. Thats not just bad luck mate, he's injury prone.How many of those was he available for and not used?
Yes he's had his injury problems in the past but 2 of them were unlucky.
Would you use the same excuse for Luke Shaw? doubt it. Bailly is a good player and still young.
Has he?Bailly has shown signs of improved injury record this season. He hasn't been getting into the team due to uncertainty as to where he'll play next season.
It will be very good for Diallo to have fellow countryman Bailly still around to help him settle.
I doubt we're signing any new central defenders now unless it's some 19 year old super kid to send out on loan for a couple of seasons.
Bailly can do a job next season, no doubt about it. Everyone on here was desperate for us to sign Nathan Ake last summer and he has flopped at Man City.
He's never fit. Enough with the useless hypotheticals.Not a bad move to retain him he's a good player. Gives us an option to change it up and rest Lindelof or Maguire when he's fit.
I agree i was being a bit sarcastic. People in here who think he should be playing ahead of Maguire and Lindelof when he's never been fit enough to displace them.He's never fit. Enough with the useless hypotheticals.
This! Bailly has hardly kicked a ball here. He's had numerous awful performances, such as Newcastle at home (3-2 game) and especially the Spurs 6-1 game this season. City and Liverpool would never give this guy a new contract. We're never going to be winning leagues and European cups with players like Bailly.absolute amazed at the work these agents can do for players. Both jones and bailly need to have their agents inducted into some sort of agent hall of fame. Players who have literally been paid to be injured/unavailable 90 percent of the time
a car he wasn’t driving, covid? that’s bad luckHas he?
He's been out injured or sick about 5-6 times.