When I said a desperate buy a meant over paying for a average player, but there aren't many options out there. Personally I'd go for Fabinho, cheaper and looks better. Anyone else but Matic though
Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I hope these bloody players work out, the amount of money Jose is spending on Dier/Perisic.
Dier seems to make some stupid decisions at times as well. I am never impressed by him. What the hell do we see in him for all that money?!
Apart from the manager. And a lot of people who actually rate Dier. Which is a lot of people, contrary what you might read on here.
We have Blind for that..
Anyway, better make peace with this as Jose wants him it seems.
Schneiderlin also did that and wasn't anywhere near good enough. I'm not even sure Dier is much better than him.
The one signing that I don't want.
Not worth the money being branded about and very one-dimensional. Sure, he has one job and he focuses on that one job - but just doesn't seem technically gifted enough to go hand in hand with it.
Just seems very limited.
Not worth the money being branded about and very one-dimensional. Sure, he has one job and he focuses on that one job - but just doesn't seem technically gifted enough to go hand in hand with it.
Just seems very limited.
Wish all the people dead set against Dier would put forward a viable alternative, rather than 'he's not good enough'
I'm in the minority it seems, think he's a good player and would be a very decent signing.
Kante isn't technical, neither is Wanyama. In fact our DM doesn't need to be technical at all, this won't be a Carrick replacement it will be a pure defensive shield and ball winner. Dier was outstanding at doing those roles the season before last when Spurs came 3rd. The biggest question mark is what happened last season and why he fell out of favour. If he can regain the 2 seasons ago form he'd be a class signing
I don't rate Dier myself but I do rate our manager and he obviously has a plan.
Everytime i've seen him he's looked to have decent technique and a decent range of passing.
Schneiderlin wasnt good enough, Mourinho thinks Dier is (allegedly)
Schneirderlin wasn't even a DM when we signed him, he played as a box to box for Southampton. Dier is completely different, he played the exact role we'd play him in (defensive tip of midfield in a 433)
All for signing an unglamorous DM to let others shine. That isn't the same as signing a unglamorous CB who sometimes masquerades as a DM though.
I've seen us linked to three other signings for that position (Matic, Fabinho, Weigl) all of whom I'd prefer. Are none of them viable options?
He does.Everytime i've seen him he's looked to have decent technique and a decent range of passing.
Apart from the exceptional standouts - Alonso, Cambiasso, Busquets etc - technical proficiency isn't something we usually associate with defendive mids.
Fair enough, Schneiderlin also seemed very weak mentally and wasn't cut out for a big club, at least with Dier I can't see him hiding on the pitch.
None? Jose does. Suspect that is rather more important than the views of Cafe members
@GlastonSpur Seriously speaking how highly do you rate Dier, everytime i have seen him (mainly for England) he hasn't not impressed me one bit?
In what way is he limited, may I ask? I keep hearing that he's "limited"? I've watched a lot of Spurs and limited isnt the word I'd use for him. He seems to do most things at least well, and is good in two positions. You can make an argument whether he's the right type of player for what we should be going for, but limited certainly isnt a word I'd use to describe him.
How much would taking Dier weaken Spurs?
I seem to remember pundits over the last 2 seasons talking a lot about how crucial he is for them. But I don't know how much of that is/was correct.
I seem to remember pundits over the last 2 seasons talking a lot about how crucial he is for them. But I don't know how much of that is/was correct.
I know international football is never a good barometer but he has largely been shite for England, especially against Scotland recently.
I rate Dier. I would be very happy if we got him.
What do you mean fell out of favour? He started 34 of the 37 league matches he was available for and 5 of 5 in the CL.
Always scores for England in my current FM save tho! Proflic for a DM!
I would like us to get him. Think he's a strong player and would fit in well here. Don't think Spurs will sell though
Whether it's him or Matic lets just get it done
So does Herrera, Pogba, Bailly, Rojo, Shaw, Martial. Basically half our squad, he'll fit right in.
Most would probably want Fabinho. Personally, I'm indifferent. I don't see Levy selling to a rival unless we offer silly money, but if the manager wants him and there's a chance to get him, we should.
Same with Perisic. I'm not crazy about either player, let alone the money it will cost, but who am I!
If Dier was Columbian and called Dierinho people would be wetting themselves, having watched about 2 games of his.
Didn't Pogba school him in a recent friendly? But then again, Pogba schooled most of that England team that day.
I'd prefer Fabinho too, but he's obviously not the type of DM we are looking at. He gets forward quite a bit. We could be looking for a DM to just sit in front of the defence and allow Pogba/Herrera to get much further forward.Most would probably want Fabinho. Personally, I'm indifferent. I don't see Levy selling to a rival unless we offer silly money, but if the manager wants him and there's a chance to get him, we should.
Same with Perisic. I'm not crazy about either player, let alone the money it will cost, but who am I!
Poor wording, meant he was not the preferred option for DM. He played most of the season as a CB in a 3 man defence if im not mistaken. Wanyama was greatly preferred as the DM
I don't know why we are briefing we think we can sign him. All the journos on tour with the club have gone with this story.
Maybe, Spurs are saying one thing in private and another in public.
Maybe, Spurs are saying one thing in private and another in public.
My expectations are at least rock bottom to this potential transfer. It's not like I can be disappointed if he turns out shite
---------Bailly---Rojo------
Valencia-----Dier----Perisic
------Herrera---Pogba------
---Mkhi-----------Rashford
------------Lukaku---------
Valencia-----Dier----Perisic
------Herrera---Pogba------
---Mkhi-----------Rashford
------------Lukaku---------
Aye, it seems to be the case and I think you're right. If you hear who were linked with mostly (Matic and Dier), it seems we're looking for what you're describing.
That's just quite simply not how we'd play
I think that was because they had CB injuries - not because Wanyama was preferred.