Erik ten Hag - Ajax Manager

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But them being dutch had nothing to do with their failures, or do you think they failed because of their nationality?
Nope, but it's something worthy of mention wouldn't you agree? Dutch managers for instance have faired much better in Spain when it comes to the big leagues.

English managers for instance have failed to win the PL since its inception and not a single one is attracting the interest of the big clubs. Which English coach would you taketh? Are Howie or Potter not attractive prospects? The best Italian managers tend to make fast adaptations to English football, Conte, Ancelloti, Mancini etc. Just another example

To date not a single of the 7 Dutch managers who have coached in England have won the PL or been huge successes, only Hiddink in his short term stints. This is not saying Hag doesn't have a chance to he successful.
 
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Be ironic if we get beaten to him because we’re too commercially focussed by a club who literally exist to sell red bull.
The ironic thing would be that a club run purely by a branding company is a club more focussed on football than one that is a football institution and has been at the pinnacle of the sport for decades.
 

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I mean, I definitely wouldn’t count his unsuccessful job at Fulham as a step up from Spurs a few years earlier tbh. He did better in the bigger job.
You're correct, Fulham came after Spurs, but he was fired from Spurs in his third season after overseeing their worst start to a season in 19 years. The wheels fell off. Add being being fired by lowly Fulham you can't categorically label him a success. He also joined Fulham after a stint at Ajax and was replaced at Fulham by fellow Dutchman Mulensteen who failed as well
 
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Good to see those Leipzig rumours are nonsense , fingers crossed we have a brief about contracts being signed soon and announcement to happen at the end of the Dutch season.
 

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I wonder how much budget we could give if we don't qualify for Europe which seems very likely at this point.
 

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But them being dutch had nothing to do with their failures, or do you think they failed because of their nationality?
Every country has its own football culture. Some are more compatible than others, for example Bundesliga coaches seem to be all but guarantee some (relative) success in England. Making their first steps in Eredivisie rather than one of the top leagues could also shape their view on football in a way that comes back to bite them elsewhere.
 

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You're correct, Fulham came after Spurs, but he was fired from Spurs in his third season after overseeing their worst start to a season in 19 years. The wheels fell off. Add being being fired by lowly Fulham you can't categorically label him a success. He also joined Fulham after a stint at Ajax and was replaced at Fulham by fellow Dutchman Mulensteen who failed as well
They did, but only after being deliberately loosened by Daniel Levy, who have become weirdly obsessed with Juande Ramos.
 

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League season in Holland is only 34 games right? Hopefully PSV slip up soon and we only have another 2 weeks of this.
8th may they will play away to Feyenoord, it might be the day Ajax seal the league with 2 games left.
 

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Nope, but it's something worthy of mention wouldn't you agree? Dutch managers for instance have faired much better in Spain when it comes to the big leagues.

English managers for instance have failed to win the PL since its inception and not a single one is attracting the interest of the big clubs. Which English coach would you taketh? Are Howie or Potter not attractive prospects? The best Italian managers tend to make fast adaptations to English football, Conte, Ancelloti, Mancini etc. Just another example

To date not a single of the 7 Dutch managers who have coached in England have won the PL or been huge successes, only Hiddink in his short term stints. This is not saying Hag doesn't have a chance to he successful.
Not many nationalities have won the PL at all, since 1992 we’ve had:

Scotland 14 (13 Ferguson, 1 Dalglish)
Italy 4 (Ancelotti, Mancini, Ranieri, Conte)
France 3 (Wenger)
Spain 3 (Guardiola)
Portugal 3 (Mourinho)
Chile 1 (Pellegrini)
Germany 1 (Klopp)

The lack of English and Dutch winners does stand out a bit in fairness. Howard Wilkinson the last Englishman to win the league.
 

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Very unlikely those RB Leipzig rumours are true. Come on, this is Man United, the media can’t write too many positive articles about the club, has to be constantly critical or in turmoil. Toxic.
 

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Very unlikely those RB Leipzig rumours are true. Come on, this is Man United, the media can’t write too many positive articles about the club, has to be constantly critical or in turmoil. Toxic.
By far the worst thing about being shit is this sort of scouse victim mentality infesting our fanbase.
 

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They did, but only after being deliberately loosened by Daniel Levy, who have become weirdly obsessed with Juande Ramos.
Does this apply to how Pochetinno's time at Spurs ended after taking them further than Jol did and having a final underwhelming season?
 

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Not many nationalities have won the PL at all, since 1992 we’ve had:

Scotland 14 (13 Ferguson, 1 Dalglish)
Italy 4 (Ancelotti, Mancini, Ranieri, Conte)
France 3 (Wenger)
Spain 3 (Guardiola)
Portugal 3 (Mourinho)
Chile 1 (Pellegrini)
Germany 1 (Klopp)

The lack of English and Dutch winners does stand out a bit in fairness. Howard Wilkinson the last Englishman to win the league.
Too right.

It's not shocking that not many nationalities have won the English league when you think about it. Not too many top footballing countries to draw from, same as world cup winners. This variation in England is actually wider than other big leagues though. Without looking im sure more Dutch, Spanish, French, Italian and German coaches have won titles in their respective leagues than foreign coaches since Wilkinson last won the old first division for Leeds for instance
 

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stop shitting the bed guys.

All this is just paper filler until it gets announced.

He’s made it clear as mud he doesn’t want to talk about it until ajax’s season is over. as soon as they finish it’ll be announced.

we wouldn’t have gone this far if he hadn’t given us the go ahead.
 

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Every country has its own football culture. Some are more compatible than others, for example Bundesliga coaches seem to be all but guarantee some (relative) success in England. Making their first steps in Eredivisie rather than one of the top leagues could also shape their view on football in a way that comes back to bite them elsewhere.
The elite ones succeeded, and the others had very mixed results. La Liga and Serie A share the same pattern.
 

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Absolute state of the negative nancies on here. No football manager with any sort of ambition would go to Energy Drink FC or BVB Stepping Stone over Manchester fecking United. Get a grip.
 

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Absolute state of the negative nancies on here. No football manager with any sort of ambition would go to Energy Drink FC or BVB Stepping Stone over Manchester fecking United. Get a grip.
It's like when Walter White compares himself to classic coke

We're a lot like Walter White slowly dying and becoming more and more hated by those who love us
 

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Absolute state of the negative nancies on here. No football manager with any sort of ambition would go to Energy Drink FC or BVB Stepping Stone over Manchester fecking United. Get a grip.
Yet even the most exciting youngsters in the game are turning down united and other big clubs for chances to play for these clubs, only to be linked to us a few seasons later for ridiculous sums. Those clubs are better run and devoted to footballing excellence, something United has lost as a club and is struggling to get back to
 

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Absolute state of the negative nancies on here. No football manager with any sort of ambition would go to Energy Drink FC or BVB Stepping Stone over Manchester fecking United. Get a grip.
You’re deluded. What makes us so special right now apart from being called Man Utd?
 

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Deepthroating information to Howard Nurse.

One of the first to break him being first choice. Article says he isn’t demanding full control. Talks are progressing well. It would be a huge surprise if he turned us down. And everyone is hoping it will be concluded this week.
 

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One of the first to break him being first choice. Article says he isn’t demanding full control. Talks are progressing well. It would be a huge surprise if he turned us down. And everyone is hoping it will be concluded this week.
Whitwell also saying talks are in an advance stage. It's obviously happening.
 

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Some of these so called journalist could end up with serious egg on the face situation soon , I could see a scenario where some of them make a claim how talks are broken and on the very same day it gets confirmed if they aren't careful and bit off with their guesswork .