I'm a little conflicted here. He seems to be a good choice but I thought we wanted to have proper setup that does not depend on the manager to make all the final decisions? If he is not a good fit or decides to leave in 2-3 years, we will be left kinda where we started.
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Yeah I don’t disagree, I just hope he’s up for a challenge!
I think he is up for the challenge but we have seen with the players, they do not listen.
Ole tried to press failed - call it lack of coaching or application
Ralf has tried and is failing too - we put it down to lack of application.
Alot of players have to go, it will allow ETH to start with a blankish canvas.
Reading the reports I don’t understand it as ETH wanting SAF like control, but more assurances around the support he’ll receive in terms of time & patience to build a squad, getting rid of players not in line with his methods/lacking commitment, transfer spend and input into signings fitting his methods etc.
There’ll still be a football department identifying players fitting into this plan and the onus would be on them/the club, to continuously identify coaches/managers with the same methods etc., which is something we’ve failed at miserably in the past.
Yes, he knows who will and won't suit his system. He's going to get a long contract, this isn't an overnight job, we're talking 3 seasons time before everything should be coming together, if you're not backing him then you're in for a boring journey.
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I'm orny, orny, orny
Fantastic news
I guess the usual 3+1 deal then.
Good news!
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I knew Orny would be the one to break it 
Let me know if ever you'd want to talk about this for much longer.ok, I think I got it now, thanks
Bullish on ETH
That's great but what's the proper pronunciation of gouda?No, he does say the g; you're just not hearing it. That's common for people that aren't used to Dutch, cause it can be a fairly subtle sound, a lot like the ch in 'loch' (but a bit softer).
Actually, the g is pronounced in two ways in the Netherlands: the soft version mostly in the south, a harsher, raspier version (a bit like you're clearing your throat) in the most of the rest of the country, especially in the west. That raspy version is a sound Dutch tends to be known for, but this guy is using the softer version. That's my g as well (possibly a little softer still), and my wife and kids (who are learning Dutch as their native language alongside French) have trouble hearing it sometimes as well here in Canada. (For example, they don't always hear the difference between 'groot' and 'rood'.)
Anyway, from an English point of view, his name is thus pronounced more like 'ten huch', with 'ten' just like English 'ten' (the number), the 'u' like in 'fun' (there's that stupid English vowel shift again
If things work out then I can see him staying for quite a few years. Was reading the bbc article of what he will bring to us if he joins and apparently one of his main traits is loyalty. If he’s given the time and resources then there’s no reason why he won’t succeed here. For some reason he feels different to all the other managers we’ve had after fergie.
YEEAAHH BOYYY!!
Good news. Now bring on the summer, a United fans' best time of year. Hopefully he brings van der Gaag with him. Been a fan of his name since his Motherwell days.
Great news. Hopefully he's supported - not just financially but also with the decisions he makes about trimming the bloat. We badly need to prove that talk of a cultural reset goes beyond just words.
Gowda
If an agreement has been reached it suggests he is.
Good news
Gary Neville will be devastated
Gary Neville will be devastated
it's a good thing he's already bald and dons the shaved look, because he would be pulling out what is left trying to fix this thing. godspeed Erik.
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This guy said this a couple of minutes before Ornsteins tweet interestingly enough
Please let this be the start of a turnaround
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So happy with him. Best signing in nearly a decade.
So happy to use our brand the stupid wankers.
It's likely to be accurate.
They’re gobshites of the highest order.
Expecting that ex City right back and others to moan about how we should have hired Conte.
Edit: I mean Micah Richards
I think it was on the Athletic website just before Ornstein posted the tweet.
Yeah, if the recent talk is to be believed, it sounds like he wanted assurances on that front and this suggests he's getting what he wants. I'm excited to see what he can do.
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Many were suggesting EtH would replace pep and steer clear of United
This is cracking news
Despite being pretty short, it actually sounds a lot like 'random cheap cheese that non-Dutch people for reasons beyond me get excited about'.
g like ch in loch; ou like in loud; da like 'duh' pronounced very short; add the throat conditon rasp to sound like a Gouda local
Delighted! It will take time! But he is the perfect choice to continue Oles work. Fans will be on his back before 10 games, though..
Why would we build the team around VDB?