That poster wrote about “football players” but it was you who came up with some random list. Again with Shaw you have a lot to criticise despite him being endlessly better for United than Sancho. Your list lost all credibility by including Sancho and at the same time leaving out other football players who have suffered much more by fans and media while actually playing better for the club than Sancho. So yes, if you had included Maguire and the others then fair enough, but you didn’t.
I mean, I'm not sure why you should dictate what terms I should or shouldn't use, but OK. Why don't you just come out and say what you actually mean, which is 'there is a racial element to the criticism that all these guys that I have listed'? I'm not even going to get into that because clearly some people are fecking racist, but the main thing that links most of those players that you chose to list (with the exception of Rashford, but you haven't explained why he was on your list anyway) is that they were signed for lots of money and turned out to be wasters.
Shaw has been superb for the last couple of years, so not sure what you mean by the 'rinse and repeat' comment? The difference between Shaw and Maguire, and the guys on your list - apart from the obvious point that you are trying to make - is that they both give the impression that they actually care, and that goes a long way with a fanbase. Even when Maguire is comedically bad you couldn't put it down to a lack of professionalism, or commitment.
That's what I'm thinking too. The more I've read, he's done well to be where he is with his work ethic and the impression I'm getting is that things can definitely get worse. Unless it's on liw wages and in a team where he's guaranteed minutes it just doesn't seem like a sensible move for any club. You don't have to do much due diligence to see the pattern of behaviour and now a lot of reported issues at United.
Who does it shine a good light on? Thats how you know where it comes from
I’m not dictating the terms you should or shouldn’t use, I’m dictating [as I have done previously on here] the posts I won’t interact with that use that word.
In every job, I've worked in, my boss doesn't approve my vacations. As long as I have them, I'm entitled to take them whenever, same as Sancho has done. If my boss doesn't like it, he can get fecked, which is the point you both have made. However, in return, I too can expect to get fecked when marginal decisions about promotions/layoffs are made in the future.
I am not.You gotta be pulling my leg
What he needs is not just a bunch of alarm clocks. He's the type of person in need a US Marine drill instructor-type of person to properly put some kind of order in his life.
You either have something meaningful to say or not. I have engaged in good faith, but it seems like you just want to goof around.
In the US taking too much vacation will absolutely be used against you in the case of job layoffs. Tech companies now have this scam called unlimited PTO which is meant to weed out anyone who thinks they can seriously have unlimited PTO.
I mean, you're the one that quoted with what I thought was a joke, apparently it wasn't and then you said you're based out of the US, which to me shed light into why you see things the way you do. Plenty people have already replied to the initial post you quoted me with - I'll stick to chuckling because what can I really say to someone that asks this seriously: "Yes, you are entitled to your vacation, but how do you think your boss will take it? How would YOU take it, if a colleague did it?"
Yeah, that's why I said it explained a lot. Crazy place.
He could do it another way. Say to all players 'if you come late you miss the next game and train with the kids every day you are late. You also stop behind to make up the time you missed'. He would soon learn. When TH was then interviewed why Sancho wasnt in the lineup, he should tell the media the truth. 'My rule for every player is you come late for training you dont play the next game' Sancho wouldnt have a leg to stand on
That sounds unethical/illegal. Most vacation time (not including "unlimited PTO" is included in benefit packages. Being penalized for using your vacation can get an employer in a lot of legal/reputational trouble, yes in the states.
I've worked for 3 employers in the US and in every single one they've begged us to use our vacation. My bosses all forbade me from checking in while on vacation, even if there were outstanding tasks.
It is illegal but it doesn't matter since in the states you can be fired without cause. So if a company is conducting layoffs (I think it's called something like redundancies in the UK) they can create a performance metric that would penalize those who took more vacation (making this up but a company could prioritize by the least amount of billable hours). I've been through layoffs) and I'm convinced people who actually use vacation days are first on the chopping block.
You're repeating what I said. I mentioned that you are entitled to it. However, it factor's into manager's thoughts, whether malicious or not. It won't be acknowledged publicly, including by the managers I spoke to, but it's what it is.
Fair enough, cheers!
You worked for some good employers. I will say things seem to be changing, especially post-pandemic, but my experience is the higher the salary the less you are encouraged you are to take vacations.
!00% correct, and every study shows that it leads to fewer day off being taken. It's an absolute scam and should be a red flag when looking at potential employers.
You can't be fired for an illegal reason. I mean, you can, but you open yourself up to all kinds of legal bother.
They don't have to be explicit about it (see the billable hours example), but taking too much vacation time can absolutely leave your position vulnerable. I've seen it happen.
Yeah, same here. I like our European way where you work to live. In USA you live to work. They have absolutely ruthless mentality.
Because it's over a training ground matter, something which the only outcome is the manager gives the player an ultimatum, fight for your place or you're being sold, it's as simple as that as ten Hag is trying to set stick to rules he's made. The DoF should never be involved in training ground matters, or a player attempting to undermine the manager.
Always the victim.
Probably depends on how late he is or if he's just more generally the last one to arrive. Say he is meant to be at a meeting at 9am every day and his average time is 9.02am, not sure how much action they could take. It's not good practice but I wonder how much can be done if the margins aren't that great.
