Hm, when Jose blamed players "he was throwing them under the bus". Now, it doesn't look like that, isn't it?
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I agree players like Malacia are what is needed, but as soon as clubs know how desperate we are the price will now rocket.
That's why nothing will change. Even if we spend and get some decent players in, at best we will get top 4 in a couple of years. Nothing beyond that. You need huuuuuuuuge changes from the owners to the rest, to get competent people in charge. To first get a plan rather than take it week by week.
We are fecked. For the foreseeable future.
I get not condemning in public part. But then in transfer he and Murtough should have shown more urgency and shrewdness. Only Malacia looks promising. Eriksen had passed it when spurs sold him. He can be a sub max. Then martinez is wrong man in EPL. All three players were signed because ETH wanted them. He has to take responsibility and share the blame.
I still hope that ETH learns quickly and help improve the performance. I like him and give him a better squad he can be really good.
And we (as with LVG) lost precious few months. I don't know how that can happen to proven managers. We are just a fans (so we know shit about foorball
) but we all knew that many of playersare not good enough. We all knew that McFred can't play in his system, that Maguire can't play high line, that Dalot is liability etc....Keep Sancho. Rest can feck off
He didn't throw them under the bus. We had a bunch of players leave and only replaced half of them. He's still waiting for the Pogba replacement.
I mentioned elsewhere that I think we were being polite to Ajax when every man and his dog knew he was coming. Like City we should have had a DOF he would work with, and start the planning. If ETH did not want a DOF he has misjudged just how incompetent this club can be. This is no longer a well oiled machine like the past or like Ajax.
There is still time but barely. Close out Rabiot (he will have to do) sign Kaylor Navas on laon from PSG, drop DDG for good. Fingers crossed FDJ signs, and for the love of Christ sign a right back. That should be enough to keep him in a job for now...maybe
Let's be honest, if you're a top player with choices why would you come and join this shitshow of a club? Besides the awful form, the drama around the club alone would put me off.
Like Martinez
New players is just one side of the equation. Its also getting rid of the existing mess here. It is time to realise that there can also be addition by subtraction and cut our losses on some of these players. I'd put De Gea, Fred, Mctom, Bruno, Maguire and AWB all up for sale and i'd accept £25-30m for Fred, Bruno and Maguire and 10-15m for Mctom, De Gea and AWB. Someone will bite on at least one of these deals.
And instead of two midfielders, i'd be pushing for 3 mids this window and a right back and a right winger.
And instead of two midfielders, i'd be pushing for 3 mids this window and a right back and a right winger.
Young and promising players will surely play for united. Need to find those hungry players early before even transfer window opens. But that's too much to expect from united management.
Honestly the rot started years ago when we first started handing huge contracts out like candy and signing a bunch of players with no real plan, but it was masked by hot streaks and individual quality at different times that saved results. Now we aren’t getting those same top performances as the players are instead asked to play within a system, and each one of them is being exposed as frauds
Yes but I think we should still go after these types of players. It's not only a physical thing, we need players who give a shit. They might not be the most talented, but these are the type of players we need right now. Look at Malacia today? Had the right attitude. We need to start there with our recruitment.
I actually have no hope, as depressing as that sounds. We could go another 20 years without a league win, or more. Only change will come when these leeches of owners sell, but they're too comfortable at this club so that won't happen any time soon and no one will come in and make a huge to force them out. Zero hope for me
Thats not what he was saying before these humiliating defeats though.
I agree, love rooting for this type of player, not ones who have just come to see out their career.
Two competent midfielders and a right back will transform this team. Bin Shaw, Dalot and Rashford.
He's going to Napoli.
First few games were always gonna be a rollercoaster for him but once he partners Varane watch him goLike Martinez
.4 more players is about realistic. Doubt we would get more than that before the window closes.
Yea because we still aproach whole thing as a top club, this might sound weird and crazy but with Glazers at helm, we can try to sell story about being broke and try feeder/selling club shtick, % on next sale here, % there. Buy plenty on low before they jump to middle club and try to develop into something, even developing aint our thing either, actually right now, nothing is.
My god still banging on about Jose
I suppose some truly never get over their first love.Exact same place. My only hope comes from if we are so bad that we end up in a relegation battle. The outcry with that might make them sell.
He blamed the players for today. Don't get me wrong; he is absolutely right and i am all for that approach
I can’t wait to see which clubs cast offs we overpay for in a panic
Think post SAF buying players to develop didn't work as we just didn't have managers or coaches to do it. Thought LVG might, but he seemed to have lost the will to do it any longer. Jose was never going to no matter what guff he came out with. Ole just wanted to keep his job and any kids that were used was more down to needs than any policy he had.
What are you talking about? We can't even mention him anymore without being accused for something? Just stating that blaming players is not bad thing to do when they deserve it (and fans attacked Jose back then for it).My god still banging on about Jose
And he is my second love.....Fergie is Fergie
The dude is shite, he has shown nothing since he has been with us. Perhaps too weak for the league.
I can’t believe how late they are leaving this to be saying it. 3 weeks left of window, 2 losses in already and liverpool next. We got a Ronaldo who wants to leave (will be even more so now) maguire is still captain, starting and playing lots of minutes; we’re desperate to keep rashford. Chucking Martinez in at the deep end, playing Erikson out of position. Starting shaw over new signing malacia.. We need 3 or 4 levels up from this calibre. Next week I hope he starts Eriksen as a 10 and plays some of the younger players like garnacho. I was at the friendly against Rayo and every time he got the ball he lifted the crowd. Why not give him a go. It can’t be worse than this lot surely ? Can’t keep sticking to the same crap and expecting different results.
Play the kids - can't possibly be worse than that lineup we put up with.
Seeing all this makes me appreciate solskjaer even more. Two top 4 finishes with this lot, minor feckin miracle.
Unfortunately, City already had Begiristain for a number of years before Guardiola arrived and also, how convenient, they worked together at Barcelona as well for some time. We should of hired a competed DOF a long time ago, when SAF left, bringing a fresh one at the same time with the new manager would of given us 2 clueless people in charge instead of one.
In most cases of successful clubs, City, Barcelona, Real, Bayern the people in charge remain the same for a long time and they are usually ex-players suited to the role. This way, the transition with the new manager is swift and helps to oil things.
Like who? Bellingham? Sesko? Raphina? De Jong? They have way better options than us with much less chance of becoming the next Sancho
Is it really on him? Are the people on the top saying these players are good and a better coach will fix them ?
We have made some horrendous mistakes which is why we are in a mess.
Well, there is a reason we pay ridiculous wages. I would assume the players are asking the same questions until they get a pile of cash thrown at them.
Think as a coach it is what he thought he could do. He has now found out they are not good and some are as thick as the proverbial.
No manager would come into a club and slate the players on day 1. It would be counter productive.