Think Oregon did this a year or two ago, but props to Vermont. Those inflicted with a terminal illness should be able to determine their end of life wishes…
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
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Very good.
I worked with a young lad, he broke his neck playing rugby and was paralysed from the neck down. He went to Switzerland with his parents to end his life as he felt like there was nothing to live for anymore. He was a student on the building site I was working on, and he was the life and soul of the party.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...of-helping-a-son-to-kill-himself-2289710.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...of-helping-a-son-to-kill-himself-2289710.html
After a discussion with her sisters, I euthanized my mom through multiple morphine ‘injections;’ she was virtually comatose after her throat cancer had spread to her brain & body & was on a morphine drip. She was not able to eat without intense pain for two years prior to her death, she was only able to receive sustenance through receiving Ensure through a peg tube in her stomach every night. It was no way for someone to live.
We decided as a family to do the merciful thing. My aunts are very religious, but they were the ones who approached me about euthanizing my mom. They were able to say their proper goodbyes, as did I, & my mom went to be with her mother after about two hours of morphine use.
It was the least I could have done for the most amazing woman I had ever met in my life.
Sorry you had to go through this x
Damn that's rough but.you did a humane thing to help her in her time of suffering
Allowing (and helping) someone to die with dignity, on their own terms, should absolutely be legal. It's shameful that Norwegians have to go to Switzerland to do it, but at least they have that option. And usually they'll be able to afford it too, since medical debt isn't really a thing unless you're extremely unlucky. And, of course, you don't inherit debt (unless you want to), so that's another possibility.
Edit: I'll add that legalizing euthanasia is very popular in Norway, 77% support some form of it. And yet only one party actively supports it right now. It's also the worst party, so that's not great. The youth wings of many of the parties are much more progressive on that (and on most things), though, and some other parties (like my own) are exploring it.
Edit: I'll add that legalizing euthanasia is very popular in Norway, 77% support some form of it. And yet only one party actively supports it right now. It's also the worst party, so that's not great. The youth wings of many of the parties are much more progressive on that (and on most things), though, and some other parties (like my own) are exploring it.
Wow this brings back memories, I grew up in Worcester and remember all this happening as I’m a similar age and a lot of my friends were rugby players and knew him
I can't even imagine how hard it would have been be to go through that mate. You did what was best for you mom despite how difficult it must have been. Sorry for your loss.
I don't know. Obviously cal can speak to it better but in my limited experience knowing that someone's suffering will end softens the blow of the loss a bit.
Thanks all. It was tough immediately after, but I took comfort knowing that it was the best outcome for Mom as she most likely only had days to live regardless. Being able to let my family have closure was perhaps the the most serene part of it. I lost my dad years later out of the blue, I just wished that I could have had the same closure with him as I did mom.
You did the right thing and I'm sorry about your dad too, it's tough. DMs open mate.
Appreciated.
Yeah I didn't know him well as I wasn't full time on site, but he was in the office when I was there and used to chat to him about his rugby and stuff.
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Good lord.
I don't understand relationships
Weird to be with someone who is actively seeking to have themselves killed. Not even just someone who feels suicidal but wants to get better but sometimes who has fully decided upon it.
Absolutely shit source. How is she perfectly healthy if she suffers from chronic depression?
You post some dodgy sources.
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I'm not doubting the story, I read about it the other day. It's the fella giving his opinion on it. Compared to some of the sources you use in the transgender threads, it's not so bad I guess. But still, why start with that tweet, and not a more neutral one?
You post some dodgy sources
Has anyone mentioned that the source is pretty dodgy?
You posted someone claiming the person in question is completely healthy. That’s simply not true. That makes the source (which isn’t Twitter itself, but the shitty account you’ve posted, without challenging this wrong statement in any way whatsoever) shit.
But that’s what you always do. Even more annoying that you pretend to not understand the issue.
I get why some people are in favour of it as
1. Seeing an old person with a painful incurable disease is awful.
2. People most against it are conservatives and the reactionary religious.
But ultimately it’s state oppression dressed up as liberal humanism. Euthanasia will ended up getting used on the poorest and most vulnerable people in society.
So yeah it’s a bad idea.
1. Seeing an old person with a painful incurable disease is awful.
2. People most against it are conservatives and the reactionary religious.
But ultimately it’s state oppression dressed up as liberal humanism. Euthanasia will ended up getting used on the poorest and most vulnerable people in society.
So yeah it’s a bad idea.
Will it? The costs associated with it are quite a lot - somewhere between £6,500 and £15,000 is the average.
Why do you think? It's the first one I saw and have seen of it so I shared it. I don't know anything about the account or the poster, I watched the video and saw a woman speaking about Euthanisia so shared it here.
Again, keep hunting for heretics mate, will work out in the long run.
It's not for me to extrapolate meaning and understanding of third parties or challenge a tweet on twitter for your benefit, that's your job ffs. So incredibly infantile that apparently I to challenge things shared because to you, sharing = endorsement. Again, infantile.
Your concept of "perfectly healthy" in reference to someones mental health versus physical health is a great question and we could of discussed it and understood more on others perspectives on this. It would have been interesting to hear other views. Instead you decided to just have a go at me for posting "a shit source" and not condemning stuff for your benefit.
Please, grow up.
Bolded, I couldn't agree with more.
Conceptually it is fine but the level of trust needed to make this foolproof, humane, legal and moral is unachievable tbh.
Unchecked it will be used in a coercive manner and presented as a viable option, I don't forsee a state (not unless things go really wrong) rounding up people to euthanise. Moreso, "maybe it isn't worth carrying on, have you considered....."
Good point.
Forget sources, I saw the video of the 29 year old a few days ago. I am not sure it sits well with me. Feel very uncomfortable.
My question is, why is it the responsibility of the youth in Asia for killing someone else?
At least in the UK there are disability benfits which far exceeded £15,000 a year. Plus euthanasia is a one off payment. Massive saving over the long term!
Although tbh I could state euthanasia happening just not for money saving reasons or as a form of class rule but as part of a liberal/progressive ideology. It would presented as a “humane” last option.
Pretty much.
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What's your view on people with extremely low quality of life due to physical ailments with no prospect of improvement? Without euthanasia the only real route for these people, if they truly wish to die, is suicide - if they are even physically able.
A while back I watched a documentary about such a case. Man in his 40's, paralyzed from the neck down in a work accident, in lots of pain and needing constant care, but he had all his mental faculties. He just didn't want the indignity of needing help with everything, he was tired of the pain, and he was depressed from not being able to lead an active life, which he had been used to. The angle of the documentary was that he had to travel to another country for euthanasia. I feel like people in his situation deserve a dignified way out.
It brutal and I'm open to the idea he could make a decision to end his life but the idea of an industry built around it feels awful.
Why are people feeling this way in increasing numbers, what is driving this unhappiness, find the route cause.
Yes, I just saw the video and it felt unreal and bleak. The actual words and content were so antithetical to my own sensibilities, it's jarring.
Maybe, just maybe, don’t post the worst source anyone can find on topics as sensible as this one.
And I’ll give you my views on a topic if you don’t start a discussion by posting factually wrong nonsense like you did. Mental health is part of health. Hence why it’s called that way. And if your source claims a person with chronic depression and other illnesses is perfectly healthy, it’s a horribly bad source and a disingenuous way to start a conversation.
Is the number of people feeling this way increasing, or are we as a society just more open about it?