A great striker of goals over a striker of great goals any day.
Evan Ferguson
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Know they aren't glamorous options but maybe should get Leonardo/Orban if still on the market
Evan will be at least valued by Brighton around £120 mill I bet, and thats too much money even if we have better owners. Besides that Rasmus, is only 2 years older and unless he stinks the place up, will be the main striker and would Evan come then? We do need a backup striker to Rasmus and ideally he is around the same age as Evan, so Rasmus ideally has the seniority as well, but surely a £50-60 mill price for a backup striker is enough?
They could play together.
Chelsea's midfield says hi!
I'd love to sign him and somehow go back to playing 2 strikers. I miss those days.
Yeah but I don’t really want us to Chelsea anymore than we have already. And at their two will most likely play together
Who does he drop then? Would he drop his captain Bruno or Rashford to accomodate? He could drop Antony and this may end up out of his hands anyway, but if hes cleared would TH drop a player he spunked £86 mill on?.
Another option would be a change of formation. Would we revert to 4-4-2 to play him? That would also mean dropping Bruno, as he isnt disciplined enough to be a pure BTB CM.
no way we're spunking that much on another striker next season. As great a player as he is, we need a new centre half and central midfielder, I'd say any big fees we will look to pay will go on those postitions.
Realistically, I can't see Hojlund and Ferguson ever being in the same squad for what I think are fairly obvious reasons. Clubs just don't go with 2 top shelf striker these days, but I have no doubt that at some point over the next 30-40 years that we'll see a top club or national team field a starting XI with two top levels strikers in a 442 or some variation thereof.
But if Hojlund becomes the next Antony -- and we should each pray and offer animal sacrifice (which today is called a barbecue) to the gods does not happen -- then perhaps Ferguson will be on the shopping list in a few seasons.
I don’t think he’ll gain much speed, if any. Just before covid we had a retired sprinter come in and work with the youths for a few sessions, mainly body shape and motions while in movement. After a certain point and age the gains become fairly tiny. It’s something they’ll have been doing with Ferguson plenty. With some teens there might be a question of growing into their frame, but not so much with this guy, he’s already fairly comfortable pinning PL defenders.
You can tell he’s been really well coached, despite his size his agility in attacking areas, especially when receiving the ball, is excellent. The speed in which he gets his shots off is top notch. He can also press up against the defender and lay it off, consistently finding his man. Doesn’t look like much, but it’s very hard to do in those crowded central areas. When you add in that he’s comfortable dropping deep as well as making runs in behind (with clever movement too) he’s a really well rounded young talent.
You can tell he’s been really well coached, despite his size his agility in attacking areas, especially when receiving the ball, is excellent. The speed in which he gets his shots off is top notch. He can also press up against the defender and lay it off, consistently finding his man. Doesn’t look like much, but it’s very hard to do in those crowded central areas. When you add in that he’s comfortable dropping deep as well as making runs in behind (with clever movement too) he’s a really well rounded young talent.
We just bought Mount and Amrabat, what's to say another central midfielder we buy ends up rubbish then we have to buy one the season after.
You could use the same logic to any player we buy, and the same applies to every other team out there
A option is buy him in January and loan him back to Brighton for rest of the season.
Martial shall hit the top level again. If not. Ferguson can be a alternative option upfront
And with RW situations. I would drop the wingers if i was Ten Hag to play 4312 with 2 CF upfront and adding Amrabat or Eriksen in the 3 cm midfield. It will gain United as a team more.
Drop your weakness and use the best players at the same time on the pitch.
Martial shall hit the top level again. If not. Ferguson can be a alternative option upfront
And with RW situations. I would drop the wingers if i was Ten Hag to play 4312 with 2 CF upfront and adding Amrabat or Eriksen in the 3 cm midfield. It will gain United as a team more.
Drop your weakness and use the best players at the same time on the pitch.
Alright then, so why do we need another centre mid next summer? Casemiro, Amrabat, Bruno, Mount, Eriksen, McTominay. We already have 6 with most either not performing or not featured yet this season, so why do we need to add another to that list, especially when we've just signed 2.
How about ,we just don't throw another 150m on a striker ?
City have a bottomless pit we don’t
Alvarez cost relative peanuts though. We definitely need another striker, but should be looking at somebody from the South American leagues like that for about £20m. Brighton will want north of £100m for Ferguson if he continues to impress as he has already.
There’s literally no reason to put in a bid for him in January, and then loan him back. Brighton would be asking for far over a 100m, it’d be madness to pay that, and then on top of that loan him back.
Even without the loan part it’s still crazy. Brighton aren’t going to sell unless it’s a crazy amount, even if he has a very good season his price won’t rise a massive amount, it’s already at a super high level.
Even without the loan part it’s still crazy. Brighton aren’t going to sell unless it’s a crazy amount, even if he has a very good season his price won’t rise a massive amount, it’s already at a super high level.
I'm talking about Casemiro's role, Mount certainly doesn't play that position. Amrabat is on loan, let's see how he gets on first. We saw last season that our reliance on one proper defensive midfielder backfired when Casemiro got injured or his form dipped. I also referenced centre half as another priority. We do need another striker as back up, but we aren't spending 100 million plus on one.
I didn't say we need to sign another
The days of signing relatively unknown players from South America are pretty much over, Brexit has basically killed that because the dual nationality thing is gone now, Brazilian's with Portuguese passports or Argentinian's with Spanish and so one no longer have an automatic right to play in the UK, by the time the meet the visa criteria they won't be unknown and cheap
How many multi-window, multi-club, multi-million transfer sagas do Brighton have to be involved in before people stop suggesting 'buy now and loan til the end of the season'?
Brexit has actually made it easier to sign players from the likes of Brazil, Argentina and Mexico directly. One positive from the shitshow.
we also could loan them some of our crap youngsters to sweeten the deal
they’ll chomping at the bit to send us Ferguson if they can get the likes of Pellestri on loan
How do you figure that out?
You can’t play 4-3-1-2 with strikers like hojlund and Ferguson. Madrid kind of play this way when they play Vinicius as he isn’t a central striker, and the other guy can go wide too. The only other option would be to sell hojlund and buy Ferguson. Which only really works if Rasmus has been playing well. In which case why do you sell him?
I don't get the general view that Hojlund must be the undisputed CF for us. He is still new here and we have no clue how he will do. A fair competition between him and another CF would make sense. I just think that Evan Ferguson would cost too much although I would love to see him here. But between him, Benjamin Sesko, Victor Boniface and Gift Orban there are finally a few exciting CF options.
I'm with @NewGlory about us buying a top striker, basically in the 20/20 or 30/10 goals and assists range, with that consistency. It would be great to point the team in the right direction as it's been a problem for a while, we've a few threads on where are our goals coming from?
I'm a RoI fan as well but normally I hate these ridiculous fees but I feel we have no choice. We don't have any money either though so that's an issue!
Never make it easy for us do they?
Not sure about this guy. Let's wait until he's got 200 goals for other teams and buy him past his peak.
Why do we need to sell anyone?
They could play together in a two striker formation.
One could start, either on bench.
Ferguson could likely play in behind Hojlund slightly. I wouldn't be hugely surprised if Hojlund could drift in from the right either.
City have 2 top class strikers in Alvarez and Haaland. I bet they don't regret that.
I rate both but don’t think they can play together. Neither has anything like the skill set needed to play on the wing. It would be silly to change tactics to a two striker system just to buy a player and even if United did so they don’t complement each other very well. Both are big physical 9s who should be in the box looking to get on the end of chances, neither is a creative second striker type who will drop between the lines, receive, dribble, create, etc.
These things are cyclical. Brighton are playing a version of 442.
Under current regime we have no chance whatsoever of signing this player.
Signing players like him for £100m+ is exactly how you DON'T try to build a long term successful team.
Indeed, still my favourite type of forward formation, 2 up front. See it a lot more up here in Scotland and despite being of a poorer standard I love seeing it
Mate, that's absolute rubbish. What do you call Alvarez to City then? Brighton paid about £5m for Caicedo. Brexit has actually made it easier to sign (relatively) unknown South Americans. A lot of them have release clauses as well.
We've already been linked with a move for Marcos Leonardo in January.
Well it’s possible that the club think Hojlund is as well given we’ve spent so much on him. I don’t think there’s anyone who will suggest that the club needs to have just one CF but two young ones costing a total of 180m plus seems daft for a team with many weaknesses
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