Hamilton saying he was at fault for the Albon incident.
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Vettel is as accident prone as Eric Bailly. Complete an utter gobshite.
Don’t have a clue what Mercedes were doing but Hamilton doesn’t deserve a penalty for trying to cut up the inside. Ferrari 
Well, that was too big of space Albon letting Lewis in of course Lweis would gladly took it. Albon closed too late i think. Rookie mistake
missed most of the race, travelling back from in laws, sounds like it was a cracker.
What a race. Always love braisilian GP, seems to serve up classics every few years.
But Vettel. Wtf.
But Vettel. Wtf.
Should Bottas be in trouble for parking his car so that the SC was needed?
Bit surprising given most people had that as a racing incident. Might have done a Verstappen and given himself a penalty. Would mean Sainz gets his first podium from last on the grid and Mclaren get a first podium for years.
He tried to park it so that it wasn’t needed
They were actually saying he did well on the commentary
I thought he could have stuck it behind the barrier. He knew that a SC was what Lewis needed.
Just seen Seb and Leclerc, OH Dear, not good for the team.
What a surprise, Seb blaming Charles, go home Vettel you’re drunk
I’ll have to watch it again, but it looks like it was as close to being behind the barrier as he could get - the commentary were saying he did as best he could to not get a SC out and were even questioning the official decision to send one out
Watched it back. Bottas did nothing wrong.
Hamilton 5 second penalty, Sainz promoted to third.
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Could be some more movement as a host of drivers (including Sainz) is under investigation for opening DRS under double waved yellows.
Just spoke with Santi. Says 2020 season is over.
Little harsh I think.
He sealed the deal by apologising as soon as he got out of the car. Fair decision by the stewards.
Yeah. Close call but agree.
At worst a racing incident but Lewis Hamilton took the blame.
Ferrari continues their tradition of pointing a gun at their own head and pulling the trigger until the chamber is empty.. At least it was a somewhat exciting way of sabotaging themselves this time which is refreshing, so thanks for that Vettel.
Is it too much to ask for everyone except Leclerc to be sacked?
Is it too much to ask for everyone except Leclerc to be sacked?
Ferrari have to get rid of Vettel before they'll get anywhere even remotely close to driver or constructor titles, regardless of how good the car is.
They need to stop giving the top job to an italian for starters...
1 more year left on his contract I believe.
True, god knows what’s happened to him, he’s always had these brain farts in him but he seems to have ramped them up this year.
Seb Vettel is done. He's very lucky that the stewards didn't punish him further. Ferrari have protected Seb all year whilst giving him first preference on strategy at the detriment of Le Clerc who could've won more races if it wasn't for this.
There is one race left to run this season, looks like screech44 has this wrapped up.
1st screech44 Redfish-Alfa 1583 X
2nd venkman Toyoda 1522 X
3rd evan7788 altodevil86 1461 X
4th pauldyson1uk Billy Jack Racing 1454 X
5th balljy RedShift 1403 X
6th impulse Team 3 1368 X
7th spwd MANSELLS MOUSTACHE, 1348 X
8th vangagal Team Skytrain 1340 X
9th hephaestus Horizon F1 1287 X
10th igord TeamShamilton 1270 X
11th jd094 Mirror, Signal, Maldonado 1264 X
12th paulscholes18 Scholesy 1254 X
13th senorgregster Hamilton Academical 1239 X
14th dargonk Dargon's crew 1230 X
15th flavio Randomhero Racing 1188 X
16th dudu Dudu Droids 1133 X
17th coleworld Coleworrrld 1114 X
18th christy87 Langers on a mission 1036 X
19th seb_87 Red_Sky_87 811 X
1st screech44 Redfish-Alfa 1583 X
2nd venkman Toyoda 1522 X
3rd evan7788 altodevil86 1461 X
4th pauldyson1uk Billy Jack Racing 1454 X
5th balljy RedShift 1403 X
6th impulse Team 3 1368 X
7th spwd MANSELLS MOUSTACHE, 1348 X
8th vangagal Team Skytrain 1340 X
9th hephaestus Horizon F1 1287 X
10th igord TeamShamilton 1270 X
11th jd094 Mirror, Signal, Maldonado 1264 X
12th paulscholes18 Scholesy 1254 X
13th senorgregster Hamilton Academical 1239 X
14th dargonk Dargon's crew 1230 X
15th flavio Randomhero Racing 1188 X
16th dudu Dudu Droids 1133 X
17th coleworld Coleworrrld 1114 X
18th christy87 Langers on a mission 1036 X
19th seb_87 Red_Sky_87 811 X
Formula 1 has all but given up on plans to hold reverse grid qualifying races next season after hostility from drivers and opposition from some teams.
Ross Brawn, F1's managing director of Motorsports, said that two teams had withdrawn their support for the idea — designed to make Grand Prix races less predictable — after it was ridiculed by drivers earlier this year.
Qualifying races, with the grid lining up in reverse championship order, would have been trialled at three events next year, under the proposals tabled by the sport's governing body.
But the plan was torpedoed as "bullshit" by Sebastian Vettel during a Singapore Grand Prix press conference. Lewis Hamilton said: "People who propose that don’t really know what they’re talking about."
Despite the driver opposition towards the concept, Formula 1 had counted on the support of all teams. However, at a meeting earlier this month in Paris to discuss the rules of the sport, the mood had changed.
“The current governance system means we need unanimity to carry any decisions through to next year,” Brawn said “The teams initially said they would agree with it and then two teams put their hand up at the last meeting and said they wouldn’t agree with it.
“We wanted to try a small number of races in 2020, a different format where, on a Saturday, it was a reverse-grid format based on championship order and that short-format race would determine the grid order for the final race.
“I thought it was a fascinating contest. And the drivers were a little bit nervous, which I can understand, but we were just asking for the opportunity for three races to try the format.
“If it doesn’t work, we put our hands up; if it does work, great. If it’s something in between, we can work with [that] just to help us develop the format of racing, and it’s frustrating that we’ve not been able to do that but I think that’s – unfortunately – the classic problem with Formula 1.”
Brawn had previously said that next year was the ideal time to try new ideas, as the regulations are stable, ahead of rule changes in 2021.
Haas F1 team principal Guenther Steiner insisted that F1 would not have been bound by the changes and that any changes that didn't work could have been reverted.
"Some people said they don’t like it. I know of one [team] maybe there was a second one that jumped on the bandwagon.
"We can try it but we need to new brave enough if it doesn’t work to get rid of it. We shouldn’t go and try it and be adamant we have to do it. If it doesn’t work, we need to be grown up enough to say, ‘ok it didn’t work, let’s go back to our old thing."
"We could discover something that works. The world is moving a lot faster than 10 or 20 years ago. We need to be a bit more adaptive."
Ross Brawn, F1's managing director of Motorsports, said that two teams had withdrawn their support for the idea — designed to make Grand Prix races less predictable — after it was ridiculed by drivers earlier this year.
Qualifying races, with the grid lining up in reverse championship order, would have been trialled at three events next year, under the proposals tabled by the sport's governing body.
But the plan was torpedoed as "bullshit" by Sebastian Vettel during a Singapore Grand Prix press conference. Lewis Hamilton said: "People who propose that don’t really know what they’re talking about."
Despite the driver opposition towards the concept, Formula 1 had counted on the support of all teams. However, at a meeting earlier this month in Paris to discuss the rules of the sport, the mood had changed.
“The current governance system means we need unanimity to carry any decisions through to next year,” Brawn said “The teams initially said they would agree with it and then two teams put their hand up at the last meeting and said they wouldn’t agree with it.
“We wanted to try a small number of races in 2020, a different format where, on a Saturday, it was a reverse-grid format based on championship order and that short-format race would determine the grid order for the final race.
“I thought it was a fascinating contest. And the drivers were a little bit nervous, which I can understand, but we were just asking for the opportunity for three races to try the format.
“If it doesn’t work, we put our hands up; if it does work, great. If it’s something in between, we can work with [that] just to help us develop the format of racing, and it’s frustrating that we’ve not been able to do that but I think that’s – unfortunately – the classic problem with Formula 1.”
Brawn had previously said that next year was the ideal time to try new ideas, as the regulations are stable, ahead of rule changes in 2021.
Haas F1 team principal Guenther Steiner insisted that F1 would not have been bound by the changes and that any changes that didn't work could have been reverted.
"Some people said they don’t like it. I know of one [team] maybe there was a second one that jumped on the bandwagon.
"We can try it but we need to new brave enough if it doesn’t work to get rid of it. We shouldn’t go and try it and be adamant we have to do it. If it doesn’t work, we need to be grown up enough to say, ‘ok it didn’t work, let’s go back to our old thing."
"We could discover something that works. The world is moving a lot faster than 10 or 20 years ago. We need to be a bit more adaptive."
Who thought Ross Brawn of all people support that stupid idea in first place.
Yes that shocked me also.
It's just not needed if they get the rule set right, it isn't keeping the sport pure. It's like changing football from 2 halves to 4 quarters, just leave it.
It was interesting to watch Brundle go around Interlagos in Senna's car. They really looked like tiny simple cars.
How would they work, those qualifying races?
Tiny and simple is a good description.
But of course it was at the hight of technology at the time and it still looks beautiful.
And the drivers sat much higher in the car.
Martin Brundle looks like he is putting on some weight now.
Vettel has a problem when he is in close proximity to other drivers.
I do wonder if he has a problem with spacial awareness.
For example. Both Hamilton and Verstappen seem able to race right on the edge and very close to other cars without routinely making contact (yes they occasionally do I accept).
But Vettel seems to loose the spacial picture far too often when in the same circumstances.