F1 2024 Season

[pauldyson1uk]

Live timesheet @13:30

Driver	Team	Time	Laps
Max Verstappen	Red Bull	1:32.548	80
Carlos Sainz	Ferrari	+0.036	29
Lando Norris	McLaren	+0.544	13
Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	+0.699	64
Fernando Alonso	Aston Martin	+0.837	77
Oscar Piastri	McLaren	+1.110	57
George Russell	Mercedes	+1.561	63
Yuki Tsunoda	RB	+1.588	64
Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	+1.644	10
Zhou Guanyu	Sauber	+1.836	10
Valtteri Bottas	Sauber	+1.883	68
Daniel Ricciardo	RB	+1.964	40
Alex Albon	Williams	+2.039	60
Esteban Ocon	Alpine	+2.129	60
Kevin Magnussen	Haas	+3.144	66
Pierre Gasly	Alpine	+3.561	16
Nico Hulkenberg	Haas	+5.261	20
Logan Sargeant	Williams	No time	5

 

[matherto]

A bit more like it from Sainz

 

[christy87]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/...-begin-to-emerge-in-bahrain-f1-test/10578143/

It's basically a no pod design with body work for creating airflow

 

[Redplane]

A bit more like it from Sainz

Ferrari could be very entertaining this year (yes, even more so) bc Im sure Carlos will have a point to make.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Latest timesheets @ 14:55

Driver	Team	Time	Tyre	Laps
Max Verstappen	Red Bull	1.31.662	C3	110
Lando Norris	McLaren	0.822	C3	38
Carlos Sainz	Ferrari	0.922	C3	40
Daniel Ricciardo	RB	1.284	C3	27
Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	1.412	C3	24
Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	1.585	C3	64
Fernando Alonso	Aston Martin	1.723	C3	77
Oscar Piastri	McLaren	1.996	C3	57
Zhou Guanyu	Sauber	2.209	C3	33
Logan Sargeant	Williams	2.22	C2	21
George Russell	Mercedes	2.447	C3	84
Yuki Tsunoda	RB	2.474	C3	64
Valtteri Bottas	Sauber	2.769	C3	68
Alex Albon	Williams	2.925	C4	40
Esteban Ocon	Alpine	3.015	C1	60
Kevin Magnussen	Haas	4.03	C3	66
Nico Hulkenberg	Haas	4.244	C2	49
Pierre Gasly	Alpine	4.753	C1	35

 

[Redplane]

Latest timesheets @ 14:55

Driver	Team	Time	Tyre	Laps
Max Verstappen	Red Bull	1.31.662	C3	110
Lando Norris	McLaren	0.822	C3	38
Carlos Sainz	Ferrari	0.922	C3	40
Daniel Ricciardo	RB	1.284	C3	27
Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	1.412	C3	24
Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	1.585	C3	64
Fernando Alonso	Aston Martin	1.723	C3	77
Oscar Piastri	McLaren	1.996	C3	57
Zhou Guanyu	Sauber	2.209	C3	33
Logan Sargeant	Williams	2.22	C2	21
George Russell	Mercedes	2.447	C3	84
Yuki Tsunoda	RB	2.474	C3	64
Valtteri Bottas	Sauber	2.769	C3	68
Alex Albon	Williams	2.925	C4	40
Esteban Ocon	Alpine	3.015	C1	60
Kevin Magnussen	Haas	4.03	C3	66
Nico Hulkenberg	Haas	4.244	C2	49
Pierre Gasly	Alpine	4.753	C1	35

Max casually driving about 600km

 

[hobbers]

Max casually driving about 600km

He'll probably go and do another few hundred on iracing later.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Latest timesheet @15:25

Driver	Team	Time	Tyre	Laps
Max Verstappen	Red Bull	1.31.662	C3	124
Lando Norris	McLaren	0.822	C3	52
Carlos Sainz	Ferrari	0.922	C3	54
Daniel Ricciardo	RB	1.065	C3	32
Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	1.345	C3	34
Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	1.585	C3	64
Fernando Alonso	Aston Martin	1.723	C3	77
Oscar Piastri	McLaren	1.996	C3	57
Zhou Guanyu	Sauber	2.209	C3	47
Logan Sargeant	Williams	2.22	C2	21
Pierre Gasly	Alpine	2.278	C1	45
George Russell	Mercedes	2.447	C3	101
Yuki Tsunoda	RB	2.474	C3	64
Valtteri Bottas	Sauber	2.769	C3	68
Alex Albon	Williams	2.925	C4	40
Esteban Ocon	Alpine	3.015	C1	60
Kevin Magnussen	Haas	4.03	C3	66
Nico Hulkenberg	Haas	4.244	C2	63

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Wolff feels Mercedes in 'ok place' over front wing
One of the talking points from today has been Mercedes' unique front-wing design and whether or not it might prove controversial.
As is usual for things that are innovative in F1, teams' design departments regularly run their ideas past the FIA during the conception phase for clarity and guidance, and Toto Wolff said that Mercedes were comfortable with their position.
“What has been put on the car is always following an exchange with the FIA, all through the process," said Wolff in the earlier press conference.
"It's no such a thing that you have a clever idea and then you bolt it on to test and you think that could be or couldn't be challenged
"That is a long process of dialogue that happens over the winter. So I feel we're in an ok place."
Nonetheless, the wing has sparked intrigue and F1's chief technical officer Pat Symonds, who was part of the team who devised the 2022 rules, described the Mercedes design as "a very interesting interpretation" and questioned whether such an approach was "within the spirit of the rules".
“What is interesting is that in Article 3 [of the Technical Regulations] which really dictates how the aerodynamic shapes are produced, it’s very clear in the opening statements that the aim of the rules is to ensure we get this close following [of cars]," said Symonds.
"So really when you start to get things that are perhaps producing some outwash – and here I think what we are seeing is really trying to reinstate quite a strong vortex to push that very turbulent air that is coming from the front wheels aside – one questions then ‘is that really within the spirit of the rules?’
"It’s within the regulations, it’s within the letter of the law, there’s absolutely no doubt about it. Is it the sort of thing we want? I don’t know, that’s perhaps a bit more debatable.
"But I think we need to know really how strong is the effect. The FIA now have a very good aerodynamic group, the group that used to work for me, that are capable of looking at these things and saying ‘yeah, there’s actually nothing wrong with that’ or ‘hang on, this is starting a trend we don’t really want to see’. So they will have seen that."
Symonds added: “It’s more a question of what’s good for the sport rather than what’s good for Mercedes, what’s good for Red Bull.
"Of course, I’ve jumped the fence a few years ago [from working for a team] and so now I’m trying to look at what’s good for the sport and without a doubt what’s good for the sport is good close racing. So anything that promotes good racing is, anything that detracts from that ability to race closely is poor in my mind.”

 

[pauldyson1uk]

I know its only first day of testing, but disappointed that there is a pretty big gap between Max and the rest, but not totally shocked.

 

[hobbers]

Mercedes have been trying to introduce that dodgy front wing for 18 months or so.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

It’s within the regulations, it’s within the letter of the law, by FIA's own admission.
This I find disappointing by them, Is it the sort of thing we want? I don’t know, that’s perhaps a bit more debatable.
This is what F1 has always been about, working within the rules and pushing them to the very limit, why would the FIA not want it ?

 

[hobbers]

This is what F1 has always been about, working within the rules and pushing them to the very limit, why would the FIA not want it ?

Obviously because it increases turbulent outwash, and if other teams adopt it that will start undoing all the progress on making it easier for cars to follow closely, and make the quality of the racing worse again.

But no need to panic, Mercedes aero innovations are about as easy to find as Horner's whatsapp logs.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Obviously because it increases turbulent outwash, and if other teams adopt it that will start undoing all the progress on making it easier for cars to follow closely, and make the quality of the racing worse again.

But no need to panic, Mercedes aero innovations are about as easy to find as Horner's whatsapp logs.

fair point

 

[Redplane]

Looking at these profiles of the Merc, Ferrari and RB it's pretty crazy to see how different they are considering it's year 3 of these regs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/s/athCDB6yUm

In some ways the RB looks the least fast. Like it took some steroids and gained mass for a body building competition rather than competing in an endurance or speed event.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Afternoon session final timesheet

Driver	Team	Time	Tyre	Laps
Max Verstappen	Red Bull	1.31.344	C3	142
Lando Norris	McLaren	1.140	C3	72
Carlos Sainz	Ferrari	1.240	C3	68
Daniel Ricciardo	RB	1.255	C3	51
Pierre Gasly	Alpine	1.461	C1	59
Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	1.663	C3	53
Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	1.903	C3	64
Fernando Alonso	Aston Martin	2.041	C3	77
Oscar Piastri	McLaren	2.314	C3	57
Zhou Guanyu	Sauber	2.527	C3	61
Logan Sargeant	Williams	2.538	C2	21
George Russell	Mercedes	2.765	C3	121
Yuki Tsunoda	RB	2,792	C3	64
Valtteri Bottas	Sauber	3.087	C3	68
Alex Albon	Williams	3.243	C4	40
Esteban Ocon	Alpine	3.333	C1	60
Kevin Magnussen	Haas	4.348	C3	66
Nico Hulkenberg	Haas	4.562	C2	81

 

[Gringo]

For god sake, just retire Newey.

 

[ArjenIsM3]

These timesheets don't mean anything. We have no idea in which configuration the cars are being run. We'll have to wait until after qualifying next week to really know where each team stands.

 

[matherto]

Oh god

 

[Amar__]

Why is Max driving so many laps in comparision with others?

 

[hobbers]

Why is Max driving so many laps in comparision with others?

Would suggest they're feeling very comfortable and not adjusting all that much. More a big data-gathering-exercise and reliability test.

 

[Leg-End]

Just let the rest build whatever they want, a 20+ win season for Max incoming.

 

[F-Red]

Lap times at this point are a pointless comparison in the test against all cars, but a useful comparison is Verstappen’s time today was a second quicker than his time in last years testing.

 

[Redplane]

Lap times at this point are a pointless comparison in the test against all cars, but a useful comparison is Verstappen’s time today was a second quicker than his time in last years testing.

As I mentioned in here before yes it could be boring, and yes some track layouts have changed but my god would it be awesome to see some of the old track recorde get obliterated so F1 truly is the leaps and bounds ahead speed demon it used to be.

 

[Amar__]

Would suggest they're feeling very comfortable and not adjusting all that much. More a big data-gathering-exercise and reliability test.

Yeah, fair point.

 

[Ahmer Baig]

1st day of testing last year.

RB - 326
Ferrari - 325
Williams - 323
Haas - 322
Alpha Tauri - 322
McLaren - 321
Mercedes - 320
Alfa Romeo - 317
Aston - 317
Alpine - 314

 

[Redplane]

1st day of testing last year.

RB - 326
Ferrari - 325
Williams - 323
Haas - 322
Alpha Tauri - 322
McLaren - 321
Mercedes - 320
Alfa Romeo - 317
Aston - 317
Alpine - 314

Everybody sandbagging?

 

[Uniquim]

Predictions of where teams are at the moment after Day 1

Red Bull > Everyone Else > Haas


Have to say I'm low-key quite optimistic about Ferrari, even if it'll end it heartbreak like it always does. McLaren look decent too.

 

[hobbers]

Haas should just disband.

9 teams on the grid would be better for every stakeholder including fans.

 

[dinostar77]

Does this work in UK?

£20 for a year of F1 including all the races seems too good to be true.

https://www.formula1.com/en-gb/subscribe-to-f1-tv

 

[Balljy]

Does this work in UK?

£20 for a year of F1 including all the races seems too good to be true.

https://www.formula1.com/en-gb/subscribe-to-f1-tv

It's not live races, or at least that's how I'm reading it. I guess that's good value for people who are happy to watch the race delayed though.

 

[christy87]

Haas should just disband.

9 teams on the grid would be better for every stakeholder including fans.

Or just sell to andretti and see if he can get his team to race

 

[The Firestarter]

Or just sell to andretti and see if he can get his team to race

I'll call Gene

 

[pauldyson1uk]

These timesheets don't mean anything. We have no idea in which configuration the cars are being run. We'll have to wait until after qualifying next week to really know where each team stands.

I know that and to be honest don’t take that much notice, but they are useful.
I have said before the only time other teams, should know how fast your car is, should be in the last few mins if Q3 of the first race.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Who's driving for who on Day Two?
Red Bull: Sergio Perez
Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton
Ferrari: Charles Leclerc (AM) / Carlos Sainz (PM)
McLaren: Oscar Piastri (AM) / Lando Norris (PM)
Aston Martin: Fernando Alonso (AM) / Lance Stroll (PM)
Alpine: Pierre Gasly (AM) / Esteban Ocon (PM)
Williams: Logan Sargeant
RB: Yuki Tsunoda (AM) / Daniel Ricciardo (PM)
Sauber: Zhou Guanyu (AM) / Valtteri Bottas (PM)
Haas: Nico Hulkenberg (AM) / Kevin Magnussen (PM)

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Early brake issue for Red Bull
Six laps for Sergio Perez so far but he's confined to the garage at the moment after a small brake fire on his RB20.
Ted Kravitz reports from the pit lane: "As I understand it when the car came in after Sergio Perez's last run there was a little brake fire. So we have a small overheating brake problem.
"It's the kind of thing that can happen. I have seen it happen before when the brake material is new, as it will be today, and if the driver has been working it very hard, as he's absolutely right to do, Checo has done nothing wrong, you can get a bit of overheating on the surface temperatures. The cooling wasn't quite right or the brake wasn't quite doing what it should."
Leclerc hits the front with sub-1:32 lap
We only saw one of them yesterday, but it hasn't taken long to get our first lap in the 1:31s today as Charles Leclerc posts a 1:31.822 on the C3 tyres, the second quickest lap of testing so far.
That's about half a second away from where Max Verstappen ended up yesterday in the evening session.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Latest timesheet 08:00
1. Charles Leclerc, Ferrari, 1:31.750, 17 laps, C3 tyres
2. Oscar Piastri, McLaren, 1:32.446, 10 laps
3. Logan Sargeant, Williams, 1:32.936, 18 laps
4. Pierre Gasly, Alpine, 1:33.804, 13 laps
5. Zhou Guanyu, Sauber, 1:34.115, 22 laps
6. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:37.135, 13 laps
7. Nico Hulkenberg, Haas, 1:37.534, 16 laps
8. Yuki Tsunoda, RB, 1:40.275, 10 laps
9. Sergio Perez, Red Bull, 1:40.323, 8 laps
10. Fernando Alonso, Aston Martin, No time, 5 laps

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Latest timesheet 09:00

Driver	Team	Time	Tyre	Laps
Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	1:31.750	C3	29
Oscar Piastri	McLaren	+0.578	C3	23
Logan Sargeant	Williams	+0.828	C1	30
Sergio Perez	Red Bull	+1.129	C3	18
Fernando Alonso	Aston Martin	+1.303	C3	22
Zhou Guanyu	Sauber	+1.965	C3	38
Pierre Gasly	Alpine	+2.054	C3	27
Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	+2.472	C3	27
Nico Hulkenberg	Haas	+5.784	C3	21
Yuki Tsunoda	RB	+6.956	C3	27

09:00

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Session has been red flagged due to a drain cover !

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Mercedes and Ferrari assess damage
Inspections on the underside of Hamilton's Mercedes, while Ferrari have the shutters up.
The fact Ferrari have put the boards in front of the garage would point to them taking the car's floor off.
Meanwhile, track repairs and assessments continue...