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The BBC disagrees with that last part.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cmm3v9ny78eo

" Newey’s contract with Red Bull lasts until the end of 2025 but he is said to believe he can negotiate an exit that allows him to work with another team from next season. "
If he can negotiate an exit. Which probably means he’d be expecting RB to show some good will.

If he wants one last hurrah it has to be designing in 2025 though, because if he’s a year late to the active aero catastrophe era it’ll be too late to save whatever team he joins, or the rest of F1
 

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The Sky article mentions that Newey would be able to start working with another team from 2027 at the earliest, so he is also considering retiring from F1.
 

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Did you not bother reading @BristolRuss replied to you with or what?
I read that and now read this

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/1...es-to-leave-red-bull-after-nearly-two-decades

What is Newey's contractual situation and could he join Hamilton at Ferrari?
"He is contracted at Red Bull Racing until the end of 2025," reported Slater.

"As I understand it, he would have to serve another year of gardening leave were Red Bull to hold him to the full extent of his contract - which would mean he would not be able to work for another Formula 1 team until 2027.

"Red Bull, as I understand it, are also unaware of any formal approach from another Formula 1 team to Newey. The one or two individuals I have spoken to who are close to Newey have said that if he is seriously considering leaving, he has not made up his mind about what direction his future career should take."
 

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Anyone reading this would think that Newey is RB's only designer, he's the head of a massive team at RB.
Ok he has the final say on what gets made and what doesn't, but you can be sure RB have someone in mind to step into those massive shoes shoud he decide to quite, and we all know he will one day.
All of his reasons for staying the UK have now gone, his kids are grown up, he can move anywhere, for any team and design cars, for him as a designer it must be a dream to design for Ferarri, but to expect him to produce a World Championship ar in one season is pie in the sky, it would take years, I would strongly suspect there would be a lot of caveats if he were to leave Red Bull.
Personally I think he's more likely to be taken on in an advisory role, while living the dream in Italy
 

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Both.

Bottas should get a drive if he wants one and is prepared to take a pay cut. He's had a decent season pace wise, car and team are fecking useless mind.

Not sure Zhou will get another F1 drive but maybe.
 

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Huge news re Adrian Newey, wonder what his next step will be

RB bubble well and truly about to burst as I can't see Max staying with how this is going
 

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Huge news re Adrian Newey, wonder what his next step will be

RB bubble well and truly about to burst as I can't see Max staying with how this is going
Think the only question is does he go in 2026 before everyone knows whos won the engine arms race, or wait until 2027 and just go with the fastest team.
 

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Nico Hulkenberg will race with Kick Sauber in 2025 just been announced
Not really sure what's the point of these past it drivers. There is a reason why shite teams stay shite, and it's because they will not improve with signings such as these.

I wouldn't be surprised if they also cost far more than young drivers.
 

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Not really sure what's the point of these past it drivers. There is a reason why shite teams stay shite, and it's because they will not improve with signings such as these.

I wouldn't be surprised if they also cost far more than young drivers.
Drivers don't make that much of a difference.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if they also cost far more than young drivers.
Have you seen Mick Schumacher or Sargeants repair bills?

To be fair Bearman, Lawson and maybe Antonelli could all come in next year. Hopefully at the expense of Magnussen and Ricciardo. Sargeant also replaced by another Mercedes development driver.
 
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Anyone reading this would think that Newey is RB's only designer, he's the head of a massive team at RB.
Ok he has the final say on what gets made and what doesn't, but you can be sure RB have someone in mind to step into those massive shoes shoud he decide to quite, and we all know he will one day.
All of his reasons for staying the UK have now gone, his kids are grown up, he can move anywhere, for any team and design cars, for him as a designer it must be a dream to design for Ferarri, but to expect him to produce a World Championship ar in one season is pie in the sky, it would take years, I would strongly suspect there would be a lot of caveats if he were to leave Red Bull.
Personally I think he's more likely to be taken on in an advisory role, while living the dream in Italy
He has pretty much nailed on development direction for over 3 decades in F1 despite all the changes in regulations.

That’s an advantage that will last years and cant be caught up with the new limits on development.
 

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Have you seen Mick Schumacher or Sargeants repair bills?

To be fair Bearman, Lawson and maybe Antonelli could all come in next year. Hopefully at the expense of Magnussen and Ricciardo. Sargeant also replaced by another Mercedes development driver.
Sargeant is shite though. But others I think are worth the gamble instead of some average past it drivers, I really think few extra points can be more meaningful than one or two crashes. There is a reason top teams opt for experienced driver and young driver combination. Haas's

Also someone like Magnusses is on 4 millions yearly, Bottas is on 8 mil(ridiculous), while someone like Tsunoda, Sargeant are on 850k. Piastri is on 1,5m. They can crash 3 times more and still can't catch the wages difference(if we can believe wages reported, but young drivers are always much less paid, that much is obvious).
 

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While F1 is dominated by aero, Adrian Newey is easily the best out there.
 

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While F1 is dominated by aero, Adrian Newey is easily the best out there.
It wont be dominated by aero from 2026 though. Could be like the 2014-2019 years where the best aerodynamics mean feck all in the face of a team nailing the new engine.
 

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This article was Tweeted by Joe Saward.

An article from November 2023. (Before there was any scandals about Christian Horner)

Newey custom ordered a sailing yacht in late 2023 due for delivery in 2024, to "sail around the world." -Neweys words. Pleasure sailing around the world normally takes a minimum of 3 years. It seems apparent that Newey had planned to retire from F1 some time in 2024. And these plans were in place before any scandal at Red Bull broke out.

https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/news/formula-one-red-bull-adrian-newey-oyster-885

F1 giant Adrian Newey OBE commissions new 27m Oyster yacht to "sail around the world"

22 November 2023 • Written by Katia Damborsky

Adrian Newey OBE, chief technical officer of Formula One's Red Bull Racing team, has chosen British shipyard Oyster to build his new sailing yacht.

Due for delivery in 2024, Newey's boat will be a 27.4-metre Oyster 885 model that Newey hopes to sail around the world. The F1 tycoon will contribute significantly to the design and engineering of the yacht, "exercising his engineering brain" to create bespoke solutions including a hard-top bimini lined with solar panels. "It’s all personal and that’s the great thing about building a boat from new," he said in a press release.

 

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Well if he sets sail in 2025 he’ll be back by the time his gardening leave ends
 

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Interesting article, 2026 still on course to be an absolute mess.

Addition of active movable aero sounds complicated. That's got "one team nails it and wins 4-5 WDC written all over it".

The "Override" boost that drivers can use to harness more power from MGH-K from speeds above 340kph sounds poorly thought out. What circuits have straights long enough to reach 340kph apart from monza and baku?

Also there are no details on "override" until the chassis rules have been clarified i.e. active aero.

Right now you can lose a bit of bodywork in wheel to wheel driving and still bring the car home in the points. Lose body work that is utilized by active aero and your race is over. Who's going to take risky overtaking moves knowing any damage incurred and it's race over?

https://scuderiafans.com/2026-formu...-seeking-to-fix-its-mistakes/#google_vignette
 

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30 years ago on this day was qualifying at Imola, on the worst weekend for F1, Rubans was lucky to survive his Friday practice crash, we all know what happened on the Sunday :(
Saturday qualifying saw the death of Roland Ratzenburger, what is still the highest g force recorded at 500.
It was a dreadful race weekend and I stop watching F1 for years after.
RIP Roland.
 

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F1 subreddit is going to be fantastic for all the American red bull fan melt downs if it's made official especially if he can work for Ferrari next season or whatever.
 

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F1 subreddit is going to be fantastic for all the American red bull fan melt downs if it's made official especially if he can work for Ferrari next season or whatever.
Andrew Benson (BBC) tweeted that he has offers from Aston Martin and Ferrari. Has rejected Aston Martin.
 

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F1 subreddit is going to be fantastic for all the American red bull fan melt downs if it's made official especially if he can work for Ferrari next season or whatever.
I hope for his sake he gets to retire and do that sailing trip around the world he's been wanting to do. Cant do that when you're not at least somewhat physically capable.
 

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I don’t think any aerodynamicists will be feeling much motivation about the impending low power active aero era.
 

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As much as they were my bete noir watching while growing up, would be very intrigued at the prospect of a Newey Ferrari. Rather that than Stroll's outfit.
 

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As much as they were my bete noir watching while growing up, would be very intrigued at the prospect of a Newey Ferrari. Rather that than Stroll's outfit.
Pretty sure that will happen. We just have to be patient. Will be a helluva way to go out, trying to make Ferrari champions again after 17 years with one.