F1 2024 Season

[dinostar77]

Just seen this posted about Hamilton.
simply put ,he is leaving the team, their focus is on the future not the past , so he won't get the quickest car now. Or any real knowledge of what new parts/ upgrades are in the making. Just a fact of life in any job when your notice goes in.

Interesting take and maybe true.

Just people who don't understand F1. Mercedes have a obvious problem between on track data and simulation/design data. That was highlighted yesterday in FP2, when they made drastic changes to Hamilton's car and went completely the wrong way. Whether they used packer on the underfloor to try to change some airflow, isn't known but whatever they did was the wrong direction.

They are using Russell's car and setup as a benchmark and deviating from that setup to run experiments with Hamilton's car (more experienced driver), to see if they can unlock the cars ability as their off track data says it has somewhere.

They have a problem with something off track, three seasons in and they haven't figured out what it is.

So the average armchair fan won't know about any of this and it will be that he's too old or some other bollocks.

All Mercedes have to do is give him a competitive car, but 3 seasons into these rules they can't manage that.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

I don’t think age is a problem, 39 is nothing , I doubt he is any less physically fit than the rest on in the grid, look at Alonso.
The car is the problem it is a dog and has been for 3 seasons now.
Simulator data and actual track data don’t match from what I have been reading.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

During winter we were told this Mercedes was fast, they had solved problems, even during testing it looked fast, looked stable and yeah looked like it could be up there. Come actual race time and the car is a mess, something must have changed, the simulator could not be that wrong.
Setup for each track is just not being got right, on paper the Mercedes should be up challenging for podiums every race, something is fundamentally wrong somewhere and it’s not the drivers.

 

[christy87]

Areo never that good , but that one hit wonder won them 6 WC so not a bad one hit wonder.

Yes it was a hell of a hit, it was a hit that kept on giving , that engine dominated so much even Ferrari cheating couldn’t stop it, they were average before that technical brief and are bang average now, Renault shit the bed so bad with that engine that they still don’t know how to get it right, mclaren left Honda just as they hit gold. Ferrari got the engine right, just as they got the aero wrong for the start of this technical brief.

 

[Amar__]

Just people who don't understand F1. Mercedes have a obvious problem between on track data and simulation/design data. That was highlighted yesterday in FP2, when they made drastic changes to Hamilton's car and went completely the wrong way. Whether they used packer on the underfloor to try to change some airflow, isn't known but whatever they did was the wrong direction.

They are using Russell's car and setup as a benchmark and deviating from that setup to run experiments with Hamilton's car (more experienced driver), to see if they can unlock the cars ability as their off track data says it has somewhere.

They have a problem with something off track, three seasons in and they haven't figured out what it is.

So the average armchair fan won't know about any of this and it will be that he's too old or some other bollocks.

All Mercedes have to do is give him a competitive car, but 3 seasons into these rules they can't manage that.

Yeah, just like last race when they tweaked they setups, when Hamilton said he set up his car for race, and said that's why he was slower in qualifying than Russel, who then beat him in the race marginally.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Q2 was a shocker for Lewis

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Apparently Perez has a 3 place grid penalty for impending in qualifying

 

[Rado_N]

Max starting P1? No way!

 

[Ahmer Baig]

BREAKING

Sergio Perez will start the Australian Grand Prix from P6 after receiving a three-place grid penalty for impeding Nico Hulkenberg

 

[Buster15]

I don’t think age is a problem, 39 is nothing , I doubt he is any less physically fit than the rest on in the grid, look at Alonso.
The car is the problem it is a dog and has been for 3 seasons now.
Simulator data and actual track data don’t match from what I have been reading.

Quite agree with you and the very good post from dinostar77.
Mercedes has made a reasonable step forward in terms of the overall design of the car.
But as you both rightly say, it is the setup that they are struggling to fully understand.

You are right that there is a fundamental discrepancy between the simulator and actual track information. And for some reason it is affecting Hamilton most. George Russell is an excellent driver who is able to maximise the car.
Hopefully this is just an early season anomaly.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Just people who don't understand F1. Mercedes have a obvious problem between on track data and simulation/design data. That was highlighted yesterday in FP2, when they made drastic changes to Hamilton's car and went completely the wrong way. Whether they used packer on the underfloor to try to change some airflow, isn't known but whatever they did was the wrong direction.

They are using Russell's car and setup as a benchmark and deviating from that setup to run experiments with Hamilton's car (more experienced driver), to see if they can unlock the cars ability as their off track data says it has somewhere.

They have a problem with something off track, three seasons in and they haven't figured out what it is.

So the average armchair fan won't know about any of this and it will be that he's too old or some other bollocks.

All Mercedes have to do is give him a competitive car, but 3 seasons into these rules they can't manage that.

Excellent post , fully agree with you.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Quite agree with you and the very good post from dinostar77.
Mercedes has made a reasonable step forward in terms of the overall design of the car.
But as you both rightly say, it is the setup that they are struggling to fully understand.

You are right that there is a fundamental discrepancy between the simulator and actual track information. And for some reason it is affecting Hamilton most. George Russell is an excellent driver who is able to maximise the car.
Hopefully this is just an early season anomaly.

I think they are using Lewis to test set ups and leaving Russell.

 

[Buster15]

I think they are using Lewis to test set ups and leaving Russell.

Definitely seems that way. Russell is, at the moment faster than Hamilton. Ar least in qualifications.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Definitely seems that way. Russell is, at the moment faster than Hamilton. Ar least in qualifications.

He is a great driver and getting what he can out of the car, they obviously want more.

 

[RoadTrip]

I knew I would regret putting Leclerc on pole.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

I knew I would regret putting Leclerc on pole.

Putting Max on pole , like shooting fish in a barrel , it’s too easy

 

[Abizzz]

Because if there was no cost cap they would be blown away in the distance by the other teams who have inflitely more resources than them.

Ah ye we all remember Toyota coming in with billions and dominating for a years...

 

[Gringo]

Might relegate F1 to the ''check results on the BBC'' category of sports I follow if Max wins comfortably tomorrow.

 

[Sassy Colin]

So, who is Hamilton going to replace at Ferrari?

He's been loyal to Mercedes but he's basically wasted 3 years of his career waiting for them to build a car he can trust.

 

[Abizzz]

So, who is Hamilton going to replace at Ferrari?

He's been loyal to Mercedes but he's basically wasted 3 years of his career waiting for them to build a car he can trust.

Hamilton is replacing Sainz. Unless extraordinary things happen Charles will be at Ferrari for the foreseeable future.

 

[Redplane]

If at some point RB/Max no longer dominates I hope we get another Cinderella season somehow. Have a Williams, McLaren, Alpine or AM win a championship. Forget Lewis, Max, even Nando for a moment and have someone come out of left field.

 

[hobbers]

If at some point RB/Max no longer dominates I hope we get another Cinderella season somehow. Have a Williams, McLaren, Alpine or AM win a championship. Forget Lewis, Max, even Nando for a moment and have someone come out of left field.

Spoiler

 

[The Firestarter]

You're predictable

Like a cesium clock

 

[dinostar77]

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[dinostar77]

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[adexkola]

Spoiler

This would not count

 

[redshaw]

Some great laps from Sainz, you can tell he has really good confidence to place the car as wide and deep as possible and very much in a groove now.

Let's see if they have the long run pace to stop Perez coming through eventually, I suspect not.

 

[Zlaatan]

I skipped a page and had to go back to see what the stupid dumbass comment about Max was. Apparently this is it.

Max always turning it up a notch in Q3. He has that uncanny ability.

@dinostar77 you need to relax mate, it's only a sport.

 

[hobbers]

Lewis the only one on the soft. And already not happy about it. Bizarre

 

[Ahmer Baig]

Alonso starting on hard.

 

[Ahmer Baig]

Good start from Sainz

 

[Ahmer Baig]

Ooooh Sainz leads. That was easy.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Max’s car is not going to last much longer

 

[Ahmer Baig]

Max car smoking.

 

[hp88]

lollll tha RBR about to go pop

 

[pauldyson1uk]

And he is out

 

[Ahmer Baig]

Who would have thought Max RB retiring?

 

[hobbers]

Well you wouldn’t expect a 2nd lap brake failure like that

 

[hp88]

Norris first GP win?

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Oh dear, how sad, never mind