I think it should be entirely in control of the referee upstairs who calls the game back if he spots something. Obviously, there would need to be some sort of time limit on this, but that's OK cos it wouldn't be "clear and obvious" in those circumstances.
FA Cup 5th Round - 16th to 19th of Feb | Very Appalling Refereeing
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
wrong to disallow that 1st Spurs goal for me
disallowed penalty is a good decision - but technically, he ought not need VAR for that
what's the rule now about fouls starting outside the box but continuing in?
disallowed penalty is a good decision - but technically, he ought not need VAR for that
what's the rule now about fouls starting outside the box but continuing in?
You can't just make up your own rules Glaston, no matter how poor the mighty Rochdale are making you look.
So VAR, so good. Now if the Idiot With A Telly system got MU kicked out I would be livid. To see Potch on the point of apoplexy ... give it a chance, give it a chance. I’m a low level hypocrite ya see. 
I don't see a foul here at all
Other than it being a yellow card and a freekick according to the rules?
With the exception of the first one it's just exposing people's lack of knowledge, including the commentators, of the rules.
Disallowed, or retaken? Players were in the box before the kicking of the ball, you could say it was because he stopped which made them all flood in, but even if they continued his run they would have been in the box encroaching anyway.
Not watching this game.
Sounds like i should be...
Sounds like i should be...
Sorry but I disagree. Players were in the box before he stopped is run in the penalty, so what should it have been? A retake?
The decision was correct though. He stopped first, players flood in next.
The stopping is illegal, correctly carded and penalty disallowed. It doesn't matter what happened next.
The players were in the box before he stopped imo
Oh ya. Just saw that again. The players were probably in before he stopped. Should have been retaken in that case. A bit difficult to judge though
I suppose they end up saying that the cheaty run up trumps everything else but I don't know really
Not convinced they do either though,
Both sets of players were, infact the two furthest forward players were Spurs. If the opposition players enter the box and the taker scores, it doesn't get pulled back, does it? I'm sorry but the rules are very clear and very specific in this. The decision is absolutely spot on.
No. The only question there was whether the pause was at the end of the run-up or not. The ref checked it on VAR which ruled it was. It just took too long for the verdict to be confirmed.
He could have performed his entire album during the time it took for the decision to be made. http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/britney-fierce.jpg
I think VAR is a shambles, but what Son did seemed an infringement. He didn't do that slowing down thing, his feet were together planted and he took a pause.
And that's your proof is it? If either team gain an advantage then it's retaken. As neither team gained an advantage then the decision to yellow and award a freekick stands.
If the penalty is scored when defenders encroach, the goal stands. If it's missed, it's retaken.
Incidentally the penalty rules, conditions, and standard guidance are at:
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick
If the players from the kicker's team infringe, then the kick is allowed to be taken. If it goes in it will be retaken. If it does not go in, an indirect freekick is awarded to the defending team.
If the players not from the kicker's team infringe, then the kick is allowed to be taken. If it goes in it will be awarded a goal. If it doesn't go in, kick is retaken
This is from FIFA Law book on penalties
What's the ref guidelines for two infringements committed one after the other - in terms of gameplay are they obliged to penalise the first or the most gratuitous?
They've used head and shoulders on the centre circle at half time.
Lamela is one lucky mofo.
And where does it mention an infringement before the ball is kicked and how it effects the rules?
No it isn't my proof, I was genuinely asking the question, hence the question mark and my unsure response. Fair enough mate if you are right, but you really shouldn't be such an arse about someone asking a question on a rule you know. Take a leaf out of @jojojo's book, she knows the rules too, but doesn't come across like you.
Honestly thought ref was gonna disallow that goal when I saw him listening to the VAR guy
Apologies, I thought you were being arsey too otherwise I wouldn't have taken that tone.No it isn't my proof, I was genuinely asking the question, hence the question mark and my unsure response. Fair enough mate if you are right, but you really shouldn't be such an arse about someone asking a question on a rule you know. Take a leaf out of @jojojo's book, she knows the rules too, but doesn't come across like you.
Ref put his finger to his ear again after the goal, wat a tool, nice finish from Fernando.
Confused? Llorente clearly pulls the defender, who goes projected to the floor.
That's because it has to review every goal. As BT showed the replay of the goal you could hear the home fans booing. We should get used to that. VAR will mean the unadulterated joy from the fans at a goal will be replaced with a disgruntled jeer for however long it takes for the referee to get the confirmation from the studio that the goal should stand.
He's called him Moira again. What's wrong with three bloke?
Impressed by the players to play in these conditions at a reasonably high level.
If you re-watch it, the defender pulls Llorente first.
Once the ref blows whistle for the kicker to take the penalty, the kicker will be allowed to take a legal kick and infringement decisions will be taken after the kick is complete.
Then again I am not sure whose actions will take precedence, if the kicker and his team mates and opposition all perform illegal actions
no worries pal
Bit of man love going on. That’s what Savage calls him in bed
Lucas Moura is impressing me.