malappapper
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As it should. Preposterous decision.Won't happen. This is FIFA we're talking about.
As it should. Preposterous decision.Won't happen. This is FIFA we're talking about.
Didn't Chelsea have similar once that they appealed against?
I should imagine this is what Barca will do. They'll find a way of deeming that the contracts of the two young players weren't valid, and they might lose a few hundred thousand euro's along the way.BBC 2010:
Chelsea have had their transfer ban lifted after reaching an agreement with Lens over the signing of Gael Kakuta.
The Blues were barred in September from signing new players until 2011 after being found guilty of inducing Kakuta, 18, to break his contract with Lens.
But the two clubs and the teenager have now accepted the player's contract with the French side was not valid.
However, Chelsea will still give Lens £113,000 in compensation towards the costs of developing the player.
Yes, a call to Roman and discussions on money needed for settlement must be ongoing as we speak.Didn't Chelsea have similar once that they appealed against?
Every big club United included are always breaking the rules of transfers (tapping up etc..) and nothing ever happens about it. Get off your high horse.So it looks like Barca will get off scot-free... again
Yup.To think practically though, it will come to nothing. Barca will reach 'settlement' over it with FIFA. Maybe FIFA will reward them with referee of their choice for few games as well.
Well strictly speaking Balague is a sports journalist as well. Not like they never come out with statements that are just rumors or completely made up. I just think Twitter should never be used as a source for anything but that's probably due to my personal hate for the site.He's a journalist. Why wait until he types it up on a news site before discussing it?
You are spoiling all the fun for Barca-haters now.I should imagine this is what Barca will do. They'll find a way of deeming that the contracts of the two young players weren't valid, and they might lose a few hundred thousand euro's along the way.
They are more than a club. A swindling institution. They will surely know how to settle it.I should imagine this is what Barca will do. They'll find a way of deeming that the contracts of the two young players weren't valid, and they might lose a few hundred thousand euro's along the way.
I'm not a Barca hater, but I'd love to see them handed a transfer ban after their antics during the Fabregas saga when he left Arsenal. But the reality is that any major club will know the repercussions of their actions but also the measures needed to make sure that there aren't any meaningful sanctions against them.You are spoiling all the fun for Barca-haters now.
Give me a break. Real and Barca are much worse than your average big club. The Neymar transfer alone deserves punishment but as far as I'm aware, nothing's been done by FIFA.Every big club United included are always breaking the rules of transfers (tapping up etc..) and nothing ever happens about it. Get off your high horse.
It really is, it's not as if these youth players were poached or put into some juvenile work camps - they joined Barcelona's academy which beyond football included schooling. This initial complaint to FIFA was brought forward by an unnamed club, one guess which one that was.As it should. Preposterous decision.
It is one thing to dislike a club and its conduct, and it quite another imposing transfer bans because of the signing of children in the youth teams. Totally different things, and disproportionate reaction from FIFA if it goes through, which I am certain it will not.I'm not a Barca hater, but I'd love to see them handed a transfer ban after their antics during the Fabregas saga when he left Arsenal. But the reality is that any major club will know the repercussions of their actions but also the measures needed to make sure that there aren't any meaningful sanctions against them.
The punishment clearly relates to the signing of players under the age of 18. Now, from what I understand, the transfer ban relates to all players, so if it goes through, then we cannot sign a single player this summer or in January. But I am 99% certain that this will be appealed against successfully. But with lots of legal shenanigans along the way.Not an April Fool, FIFA has it on their website as well
It really is, it's not as if these youth players were poached or put into some juvenile work camps - they joined Barcelona's academy which beyond football included schooling. This initial complaint to FIFA was brought forward by an unnamed club, one guess which one that was.
No idea what the implications are as the wording of the transfer ban isn't clear about whether it relates to U18 transfers into the academy or senior players over the age of 18. Can't imagine the latter being true but we'll see how it ends up as I imagine there is an appeals process
In the shorter term, more concerned about what this means for several gems in the cantera, not the least of which is Lee Seung Woo which most of this centers around. It was announced in the local papers that he had an agreement to stay at the club and wait until he's 18 (Jan 2016) before he can play an official match with any of the youth teams - turning down more lucrative offers to go to Chelsea, Liverpool etc.
It really is, it's not as if these youth players were poached or put into some juvenile work camps - they joined Barcelona's academy which beyond football included schooling. This initial complaint to FIFA was brought forward by an unnamed club, one guess which one that was.
No idea what the implications are as the wording of the transfer ban isn't clear about whether it relates to U18 transfers into the academy or senior players over the age of 18. Can't imagine the latter being true but we'll see how it ends up as I imagine there is an appeals process
In the shorter term, more concerned about what this means for several gems in the cantera, not the least of which is Lee Seung Woo which most of this centers around. It was announced in the local papers that he had an agreement to stay at the club and wait until he's 18 (Jan 2016) before he can play an official match with any of the youth teams - turning down more lucrative offers to go to Chelsea, Liverpool etc.
How and when you decided that the decision is a justified one?
What makes you so certain it will be successfully appealed?The punishment clearly relates to the signing of players under the age of 18. Now, from what I understand, the transfer ban relates to all players, so if it goes through, then we cannot sign a single player this summer or in January. But I am 99% certain that this will be appealed against successfully. But with lots of legal shenanigans along the way.
I am sorry to break several bubbles on these thread, but when was the last time such a decision stood against a major and prestigious European club such as FC Barcelona? No chance it will stand, it's just the usual politics surrounding football. Some teams will have to receive some sort of compensation and it will quickly revert to normality.They'll appeal & while it's a legal wrangle - they'll still go ahead and sign players. Or doesn't an appeal work that way?
See above.What makes you so certain it will be successfully appealed?
Even if it isn't, it's extremely wild to just pass off the judgement as "preposterous decision" and be convinced by that.How and when you decided that the decision is a justified one?
I am sure that Real Madrid, Espanyol, Atletico, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, PSG, Man City, Arsenal etc all agree with you.They should be banned from transfers after the Neymar affair anyway.
When was the last time a major club received such a punishment for such a type of offence, of which I am sure there are myriads throughout the world of football.Even if it isn't, it's extremely wild to just pass off the judgement as "preposterous decision" and be convinced by that.
It's such an unusual case to begin with as Article 19 is rarely imposed unless there has been a complaint by a specific body/club. The exception to the rule of signing U18 players is the following:What makes you so certain it will be successfully appealed?
Chelsea. However, the complainants received a compensation and withdrew the case, which is not the case with Barcelona as stated by FCBarca.When was the last time a major club received such a punishment for such a type of offence, of which I am sure there are myriads throughout the world of football.
The fact they've sanctioned the Spanish FA as well suggests it might be more serious than you assume.When was the last time a major club received such a punishment for such a type of offence, of which I am sure there are myriads throughout the world of football.
It is such a minor issue, and the punishment of such gravity that it really smacks of some very low-level politics. The possibility that a major club will receive such a penalty for something so minor is virtually zero. It's ridiculous they even went on with this.It's such an unusual case to begin with as Article 19 is rarely imposed unless there has been a complaint by a specific body/club. The exception to the rule of signing U18 players is the following:
In LSW's case, it was the Korean FA that actually approached the club to consider him for their academy and was the argument made by the club in terms of an exception...to no avail apparently
- The player’s parents move to the club’s country for non-football related purposes.
- The transfer occurs within the territory of the European Union or the European Economic Area and the player being within 16 to 18 years of age.
- The players lives 50km from a border shared by the club’s country, with the club being within 50km of that same border.
Club is already preparing an appeal and will make a statement this afternoon concerning the FIFA ban. Chelsea's ban was actually shady yet they successfully appealed it, I expect no less