Then why are City asked?
Florentino Pérez: The saviour of football.
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If you look at the supposed "most valuable clubs according to Forbes", you answer lies in who make up the top 15 clubs and just how many of those are the new founding fathers of the saviour of football.
It's simply all to do with value of the club at this point in time, are your owners billionaires or not - nothing to do with how many leagues you won in the 70s etc. If this were done 20 years ago, you'd have the likes of Leeds and Blackburn in that list instead with Chelsea nowhere to be seen.
And let's be honest, it is not their fault that these clubs have such financial issues! They overspent, overpaid only for the good of football, for the fans!
Perez is a scumbag and largely the driving force behind this. He’s ran his own club into financial difficulties and this is his way of digging them out of a deep hole of his own making.
The fact that the English clubs have gone along with it is madness. How Perez can be trusted as a chairman of a new league is utterly bonkers.
The fact that the English clubs have gone along with it is madness. How Perez can be trusted as a chairman of a new league is utterly bonkers.
I'm sure he'll even cure COVID-19 entirely if we just give him time.
Real Madrid and Barca are fecked financially, that is the only part of that interview he got remotely correct.
Saving football? Saving his own worthless hide. GFY Perez.
In before Perez turns the 90 min game into 4 quarters to increase that sweet ad revenue.
It's mental.
Who the feck makes a league and then puts Perez as chairman, and Joel sodding Glazer as vice-chiarmen?!
Morons, thats who.
Both Real and Barca are owned by Socios whose ultimate drive is sporting glory. The EPL clubs with the exception of Chelsea and City are owned by Yanks solely driven by profit.
We are never going to win this Superleague.
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I have a great idea, why don't the two of you breakoff and have the Spanish Super League and play each other 38 times a season.
Top 2 gets into a 2 legged playoff for the title.
I foresee a 20-30 team NFL-style league where only clubs with sufficient clout (read: 9 figure yearly incomes) and billionaire owners are allowed in.
The guy who invented the Galacticos concept complains about not having enough money. Fun times..
Nobody is forcing us to join through. Or Liverpool or Barcelona for that matter. We are run by just as big scumbags as him.
Yep. I don't disagree... we are every bit as bad for even humouring that clown. Maybe worse in some ways as he is doing this to try and ensure the continued success of Real Madrid... whereas for us, it's just plain greed.
Levy probably su**** Perez co**.
I will say he raised a good point how you can know how much Lebron James makes in the NBA, but you can’t know how much the top guys at UEFA make.
Question: When Perez talks about the game being in decline and all that, what exactly is he talking about? Of course, I get that the pandemic has been a huge issue, and I know that Real Madrid and Barcelona specifically are in financial problems, but surely that is down to mismanagement rather than anything else. Outside of covid, is there a general decline in revenue, tickets sold, viewership or anything like that he can point to?
It is honestly impressive just how disruptive one man can be. He disrupted the status quo by getting Figo, then he turned players into rockstars through Galacticos, then he started comparing clubs holding on to their players to slavery when he was chasing Ronaldo, he essentially inflated the market on his own breaking transfer-record after transfer-record - often using debt to do so, and now he is involved in a breakaway league which threatens to completely change the structure of european football.
Makes you think how European football would look without him.
Makes you think how European football would look without him.
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He says the younger generations are not as interested in football as before. I recall seeing some director at Liverpool talk about them being more into videogames and series and how that was affecting the business little by little. Apparently the viewership is declining too.
Pure mismanagement. And a knock-on effect of being too greedy in the past, reducing competitiveness and therefore interest across certain leagues.
The problem here is partly wider social trends and partly football making an arse of it. Most young people have been priced out of the game due to ticket and subscription prices. In the UK all efforts have been on the middle-aged Sky subscribing demographic - those willing to fork out the best part of a grand a year on a TV package. And those who no longer have much enthusiasm for the more physically engaged fan experience of their youth - the standing, singing, the sense of identity and belonging for disaffected kids. Elite clubs have willingly removed that demographic group because they know the money, in the short-term, is in the middle aged group. Shit long-term planning of course.
Not surprising. You can become a rich by being good at video games now so parents probably encourage their kids to play them more nowadays.
Well I couldn't give fewer fecks about the el clasico these days. Lost its charm for me a while ago.
Yeah it's nowhere near the days of Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Messi etc.
Florentino Perez and Joel Glazer, that’s who.
Unfortunately they are not morons. One is a closet fascist car salesman and the other a cynical big corp capitalist, both are good at getting what thwy want to the detriment of what anybody else wants, and nothing much more.
It’s no coincidence that it was Silvio Berlusconi who started this clamour for and oligarch league in Europe.
Just saw one video of Laporta and Lendoiro (former Deportivo chairman) speaking about the Superleague...in 2004. At some point Laporta says "I was in Brussels the other day and I was told we, the strong clubs, have to organize the European League [...] Football is the last monopoly remaining in Europe".
This shows the debate has been there for at least 16 years but it is us fans the last who noticed it.
Can't wait for the half time show at the ESL final.
I am pretty sure that the Manchester Derby regularly has a significantly higher viewership than the El Clasico. God the Spanish teams are an arrogant bunch.
Summary of Florentino interview yesterday.
- Football is getting less and less income and there is less interest (every year).
- If we don't do something football is in danger.
- Broadcasters offer X for the current format and 5 times that amount for a Superleague including 15 teams that generate the biggest attraction.
- It would not be a closed league.
- Money would be give to UEFA for them to share it.
- UEFA could decide the 5 guests every edition according to sport merits.
- Ceferin and Tebas have shown improper behavior for a director in their organizations.
- UEFA and LaLiga are not transparent organizations.
- They cannot ban anyone from any competition (Champions, Leagues) or stop anyone from playing in their NTs. It is illegal.
- Founding clubs will keep on playing in their respective leagues.
- They don't want to weaken national leagues. All the contrary.
- He wants to have same transparency in Superleague as in USA sports. Contracts will be public as in the NBA.
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- Football is getting less and less income and there is less interest (every year).
- If we don't do something football is in danger.
- Broadcasters offer X for the current format and 5 times that amount for a Superleague including 15 teams that generate the biggest attraction.
- It would not be a closed league.
- Money would be give to UEFA for them to share it.
- UEFA could decide the 5 guests every edition according to sport merits.
- Ceferin and Tebas have shown improper behavior for a director in their organizations.
- UEFA and LaLiga are not transparent organizations.
- They cannot ban anyone from any competition (Champions, Leagues) or stop anyone from playing in their NTs. It is illegal.
- Founding clubs will keep on playing in their respective leagues.
- They don't want to weaken national leagues. All the contrary.
- He wants to have same transparency in Superleague as in USA sports. Contracts will be public as in the NBA.
How generous.
Without any form of relegation for the founding clubs there is nothing this can competition can offer to make it acceptable but obviously that is the only reason they're trying to make it happen
Leaving aside 2020, is it true that football viewership and income is declining each year? That seems like a strange claim.
Is he straight up lying? "It would not be a closed league"
Well, bar the 5 guests, the other 15 are guaranteed to participate aren't they?
Well, bar the 5 guests, the other 15 are guaranteed to participate aren't they?
Um not me. I stopped watching long ago after getting tired of watching a game filled with advantages being gained by players falling over the pitch. This man lives in cuckoo land.
Exactly. Financial mismanagement should be rewarded with bankruptcy. Even ignoring the effects of Covid, Barca were knew they were overspending and playing a financial game beyond their means. They should be made to suck it up.
Feck Perez and feck Real Madrid, they destroyed football with their whole Galactico thing, backed by their own state for decades. Disgusting SOBs. 
Because the world cares when Real play Athletico? I'm pretty sure United vs Liverpool still garners as much attention as 'El Classico'.
Anyway why am I even humouring this, the man is a leper dinosaur.
Most Barca fans (including myself) loathe it. I enjoy la liga and even the smaller teams (compared to the big 3)
The more and more I read about the more infuriating it gets. Getafe just pulled off a draw against Madrid (yes Madrid had lots of injuries) we’ve dropped points to Cadiz, Atletico has dropped points to teams fighting relegation. This is what makes the league fun especially in a right race. Sevilla are only 6 points from the top spot get don’t get the invite that Spurs got.
For CL I have local friends who support Liverpool and other who support United. Matching up with them in the CL was really exciting because of how infrequent those matchups tend to happen. But if we play them every year all the time it will absolutely lose its lustre sooner than later. I hope it doesn’t go through, going to be really depressing if it does
I don't like that either. Eventually it will make leagues lose a great part of their appeal, so I guess some middle ground will be reached eventually.
Nice to see the English clubs have stayed silent and let him make a title out of himself...
Hes a real philanthropist