Why did they get scared?? Nationalisation? Bizarre that folk like those would get scared considering the experience they've got of fleecing people.
Florentino Pérez: The saviour of football.
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Why did they get scared?? Nationalisation? Bizarre that folk like those would get scared considering the experience they've got of fleecing people.
This stupid fecker basically invented the concept of just buying all the best players which led to this supposed 'crisis' for the top clubs. It's like the idea of just not doing that and actually building a team the way everyone else does is just unimaginable to him. Twat of a man.
Same here. I suspect it's close between the two games.
The problem is so many of those new viewers are not football fans and never will be. They are just part of any current hype train, so you should never base any long-term predictions on their behaviour.
That's why this idea is as stupid as it is greedy in terms of financial gain. Perez isn't saving football. He is an old man that is trying to save himself, and Real Madrid in the short term, by destroying the roots of football and putting the whole future of the sport at stake.
Perez is one of those powerful and rich people, who are never able to take accountability for their mistakes and inadequacies, because it is always in their nature to serve their short-term interests and desires.
Exactly. Very ironic how he is crying about "football getting destroyed", i.e. Real Madrid can't compete financially due to criminal mismanagement, when his original project and crownpiece was the Galacticos.
City has become extremely popular, you see their kits everywhere and people suddenly became lifelong fans, Chelsea are also very popular.
He only started the Galatico policy to make Real a bigger global brand than United. Prior to that Real weren't even that popular, Barca were bigger despite their lack of ECs back then. Mental where football has come,Manchester bloody City are global players, the Italian clubs have lost their charm and Spurs were invited to a European Super League. It's a bizarre dystopian David Lynch film script innit.
Chelsea are, at least here in Hong Kong.
but I’ve hardly ever seen any City shirt around
I suspect most new fans are casual, they'd probably happily follow any club that's currently glamourous. I think the SL would've been massively successful for that reason. The idiots wanted a closed shop which must've been one of the reasons why it fell flat overnight.
I see City full kit wearers around here, which is frankly disgusting.
I see City full kit wearers around here, which is frankly disgusting.
They used to be confined to Stockport and Oldham. No joke.
Hahaha, this twat. Maybe don't spend hundreds of millions you can't afford dickhead.
Abhorrent.I see City full kit wearers around here, which is frankly disgusting.
Where did Hazard (who cost 115 million Euros) go in that overview?
I don't think you can compare football clubs to normal companies like that.
If a company is in debt they of course often invest to generate more income and to lower their debt. However you can't directly calculate how much "income" a new player will generate for a football club. He can strenghten their brand, he can help to reach sporting success and thus win prize money, he can lead to more sold shirts, but you can't exactly calculate a business case.
But a football club that obviously spent way too much on wages and transfer fees in the recent years shouldn't buy a player that demands wages that are even too high for the likes of Chelsea and PSG (at least according to reports).
And in no way should a club sign such a player and literally cry a few days afterwards and lead a revolution because they "need to save football [...] because we don't earn enough money".
That's next level hypocrisy, even for Perez.
And Gareth Bale? He might be on loan but he's still a RM player and cost £90M....
Its a small world he's living in. Like Spain or Madrid.
I don't think anybody made that point though. Do you have the original quote?
Considering even RM supporters have protested against the SL, the world he is living in is even smaller -- inside his own head.
I didn't make any comparison and I didn't calculate a thing. I said that having debt tells you nothing about the finances of a club.
I am the original quote, I made the point that Real Madrid could afford Mbappé and Haaland but you and others tried to argue otherwise.
True. And it's so crazy to me. Anecdotally, whenever I'd travel somewhere (pre-covid) and I'd see City kits my mind would always "???". Even now on social media you see City fans from all over the world and I still have to check myself that things have changed.
Their growth has been pretty quick. Success, a recognizable manager and talented players does that.
Guess Perez doesn't need us (United,City,Arsenal,Chelsea,Liverpool) then.
*sigh* shame.
*sigh* shame.
I never said Madrid could not afford Haaland for 20 million euros. My point is that you were being advantageous comparing three preselected bargains with three guys purchased in a way more recent and inflated market (as average). I.e. Marquinhos went to PSG in 2013, Verratti in 2012.
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El Classico is dead these days, I can't remember the last time I watched one.
No wonder people are tuning off when it's just Barca v Madrid every time in all the Spanish finals. That's the same feeling the super league would have had.
No wonder people are tuning off when it's just Barca v Madrid every time in all the Spanish finals. That's the same feeling the super league would have had.
I sincerely hope he is not living inside Klopp's head. If so he and Gary Neville will have a right ole punch up all inside Klopp's head.
I wasn't comparing PSG and Madrid, I used examples of good players that Madrid could easily afford but didn't target these two just came to mind, the fact that PSG purchased them is irrelevant but I should have used other players since you took it as an offence. Let's say Salah for 40m to Liverpool instead of Vinicius or Pavard from Stuttgart instead of Odriozola.
I do not see many Real Madrid shirts around Asia at least. Yes when Ronaldo was there you see his shirts but nothing of significant anymore. Most people watch the PL and not La Liga in Asia.
No. PSG was against but they were/are part of the plan, because a football competition without France does not make sense at all levels
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I was having the same thought but in France. United and Real Madrid aren't that visible but with United you see things like T-Shirts more than kits. When it comes to foreign club the ones I see the most are Chelsea, City, Barcelona, Bayern and if you hang around camping spots, Liverpool.
This is true. In fact, in India, La Liga has not even been shown live on any broadcast channel for the past two seasons.
Nobody gives a f*ck about a league dominated so artificially by RM and Barca.
Because the premier is not artificial at all with City winning the league at Christmas
I am not in support of this ESL.
What I explained is why they do what they did, and UEFA clearly bent backward aftermath. The new CL format is a half baked version of ESL, and already on its way away from the CL that. Now national leagues has already to start to work to help fit more games. It's more and more Big Leagues Plus competition.
While some early upset can be exciting, but the truth is if the giant killer cannot go all the way, it affects the ability to attract view for the whole competition. Too many Davids fighting against each other in first KO round, just for them to be eliminated next by the same old faces.
For UEFA without the balls to enforce FFP, it's inevitable for the balance to be tipped that CL would have a bad influence on the national leagues. Either the national leagues go on with reform like the Big Picture idea (
) to decrease the number of team, eliminate domestic Cups, or CL would eventually break and lose its prestige with viewer attracting club no longer able to compete, where new money clubs dominate CL.This version of ESL is just too much and too quick in its approach, and without consideration for the national leagues, but there is element of truth in their thinking. UEFA just cunningly going under the radar and rolling out a slow death approach. Now ESL is dead. It's time to look at the lesser evil, and stop it track for it to eventually become even the bigger evil.
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Huh?
It's levels above your league in terms of being competitive, both in terms of football and finances. The greed of Real Madrid and Barcelona has been slowly killing La Liga.
Well played Sir.
However, I think you'd have to admit that competition goes deeper in the PL than in La Liga. If you look at the title fight over the past 5-6 seasons, it's not the same teams every year. And the way things stand now, you could argue there's 8-10 teams with a more serious potential to advance in the CL than most of the participating teams, if not to win it.
Eh? I thought United were top in January?
Interesting food for thought. Thank you.I am not in support of this ESL.
What I explained is why they do what they did, and UEFA clearly bent backward aftermath. The new CL format is a half baked version of ESL, and already on its way away from the CL that. Now national leagues has already to start to work to help fit more games. It's more and more Big Leagues Plus competition.
While some early upset can be exciting, but the truth is if the giant killer cannot go all the way, it affects the ability to attract view for the whole competition. Too many Davids fighting against each other in first KO round, just for them to be eliminated next by the same old faces.
For UEFA without the balls to enforce FFP, it's inevitable for the balance to be tipped that CL would have a bad influence on the national leagues. Either the national leagues go on with reform like the Big Picture idea (
This version of ESL is just too much and too quick in its approach, and without consideration for the national leagues, but there is element of truth in their thinking. UEFA just cunningly going under the radar and rolling out a slow death approach. Now ESL is dead. It's time to look at the lesser evil, and stop it track for it to eventually become even the bigger evil.
I thought French people has better fashion sense than thatI see City full kit wearers around here, which is frankly disgusting.
I did know that City won the League last season.