Gaming Football Manager 2021 (FM21)

Berbaclass

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How have they handled Covid? empty stadiums?
No they have updated the fixture list and financial impacts but other things they decided not to re-create such as empty stadiums.

https://www.footballmanager.com/news/our-approach-covid-19-fm21

When COVID-19 first brought the world to a virtual standstill a few months ago (although it seems like years at this point) people started to ask us via social media if we were going to update FM20 to include the virus and its effects.

We decided not to.

When developing Football Manager, and our games before that, we’ve always tried to make entertainment that provides the best value for money on the planet and also offers an escape from the real world. People have always used FM to create their own fantasy world and we reasoned that now, more than ever, they needed something to take them away from reality… not to remind them of it.

Of course, we couldn’t stop people who ‘mod’ our games from including COVID-19 in FM20, but we really dislike what their work did to our game – and from what I’ve seen on social media, so did most of the people who downloaded and used those mods. FM is meant to be an escape from reality, and having a squad ravaged with an illness has the opposite effect.

However, that was FM20. We knew that our stance would have to change for FM21 as COVID-19 and – possibly more significantly – its social and economic effects have had a serious impact on real world football. As we pride ourselves on FM’s realism, we knew that we had to reflect that, while still offering that escape.

As a result, for FM21 we’ve tried to strike the best possible balance between realism and escapism.

So, for this blog, I’m going to deal with how we’ve chosen to reflect COVID-19 in FM21’s gameplay. If you’re at all interested in how it has affected development, you can find more information by finding out how COVID-19 impacted the making of Football Manager 2021 - it’s something I’m bound to be talking about a lot more in interviews in the coming weeks and months.

There’s also a request for your help in one area.

Let’s start with the money side of things. It’s no secret that football clubs around the world are suffering financially. The absence of supporters from the stadiums not only means a huge loss of revenue from ticket sales, but also from concessions and merchandising.

This will be reflected in FM21, as your chosen club’s finances will inevitably be in a worse state than you would normally expect when you start a new save. The most visible knock-on effect of this will be transfers; we’ve rewritten chunks of our transfer system to ensure that while superstars and wonderkids will retain their value, FM21 will see more ‘loan to buy’ offers, the value of mid-range players dropping and clubs in real financial trouble trying to move players on a more regular basis. However, as money comes back into the game over time, the transfer system will adapt and eventually return to some sense of ‘normal’.

So that’s one area of realism, here’s a little escapism.

Something we thought long and hard about was when (and whether) we should let supporters back into FM21’s stadia. We eventually decided that crowds will attend matches from the very start. The revenue this generates will allow clubs to get back onto an even keel sooner and will help with the above-mentioned in-game financial and transfer systems.

With the leagues, we have adjusted the football calendar where appropriate. In many cases, the usual ‘start dates’ are out of the window, but they soon revert to normal. In certain leagues (those that have already finished by the time the game is released) we’ve made the decision to start at the beginning of next season – and we thank all of our licensors that we’ve discussed this with for their support in this decision.

I’m not going to list all of the leagues affected by this, as that would be a bit too much for this blog (and not all of those decisions have been finalised as yet) but I will provide one good example… MLS. Because MLS runs over the summer, that competition is normally reaching its climax when FM is released and we would therefore allow managers to ‘go back in time’ and play from the beginning of the season. However, with the shift in dates, we are now going to start MLS from the forthcoming season.

The date your save starts may also have changed, depending on the start date of your chosen league. Pre-season will still be five to six weeks (rather than the 12 weeks that they often were during the testing cycle on the game, due to the game normally starting at the start of July) but, for example, this season’s EFL Championship kicks off in September, rather than the traditional August.

Finally on the subject of dates, transfer windows will start by matching their current real life counterparts, but will revert to ‘normal’ in season two.

Match wise, we’re going with substitution rules as they are in real life for season one; if a league is using five subs (rather than three) then so are we. Then, like the transfer windows mentioned above, revert to ‘the old normal’ in season two, unless the competition in question has already indicated that the plan is to adopt the new rule for the long term.

Pre-match, you’ll see team line-ups as normal, as we want to keep the same sense of normality created by having supporters in the ground. Also, you won’t be seeing posts cleaned before penalty shoot-outs as, again, that’s just a reminder to the strange situation of the real world currently that we want to avoid.

Some of these choices may come across as arbitrary, but we’ve looked at every area individually (and the entire game holistically) and we think we’ve made the correct choices.

To be really clear, Covid 19 will not appear as an "illness" in FM21.

But there’s one point where we haven’t settled on a decision, because I would like to throw it out to you, the people who will spend huge amounts of time playing FM in the coming months. The feature in question is the new ‘gesture system’ that you may have seen revealed in our new headline features video.

When this system was first devised we included a number of gestures that (at the time) were completely normal, but now aren’t part of daily life – one perfect example being ‘shake hands’ as a greeting. In game, we have changed that one to ‘elbow bump’, which seems to be the most used tactic to avoid hand shaking at the moment. However, I’m aware that that goes against our ‘trying to be Covid free, whilst not completely ripping up the real football world’ policy.

So, we’re throwing this open to a vote. A simple two choice vote between ‘Normal gestures’ or ‘Covid safe gestures’ (so that no one can vote for Handy McHandshake). You can find the vote on my Twitter feed (@milessi) and it will be active for seven days, after which time that is the final decision made.
 

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Got my first FM'ing of the game. Fecking fuming as I would have won the title with 3 points...

Granted I decided to just push for the win at 1-1 and they countered me but feck off :lol:



 

MattofManchester

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I haven't started my United save yet as I'll start that upon full release.
Right now I'm with Borussia Monchengladbach.

But holy feck, Manchester United are even more overpowered than Liverpool this edition. They've dominated the league in almost all of the saves I've seen. One in which they won 4 times in a row.
Possibly a little overrated too. :rolleyes:

Has anyone actually decided to sell Pogba?
 

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I haven't started my United save yet as I'll start that upon full release.
Right now I'm with Borussia Monchengladbach.

But holy feck, Manchester United are even more overpowered than Liverpool this edition. They've dominated the league in almost all of the saves I've seen. One in which they won 4 times in a row.
Possibly a little overrated too. :rolleyes:

Has anyone actually decided to sell Pogba?
Maybe you're underrating us :wenger:
 

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Haven't bought the game yet since I'm literally 24/7 doing college work :( but for anyone playing the game can you let me know are Liverpool once again unstoppable in the game?

The trouble I had with them in FM20 was like a I was a full time analyst trying to work out how to beat them
 

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Haven't bought the game yet since I'm literally 24/7 doing college work :( but for anyone playing the game can you let me know are Liverpool once again unstoppable in the game?

The trouble I had with them in FM20 was like a I was a full time analyst trying to work out how to beat them
I'd say the opposite, I'm only one season in but they were around 4th/5th all season. I beat them home and away without any major transfers and they didn't do much in the cups.
 

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Haven't bought the game yet since I'm literally 24/7 doing college work :( but for anyone playing the game can you let me know are Liverpool once again unstoppable in the game?

The trouble I had with them in FM20 was like a I was a full time analyst trying to work out how to beat them
No, they finished 5th in my first season.
 

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After a couple of shaky years 2016-19 ish, they’ve definitely improved with 20 and now this version. The little things I didn’t like such as the heart for the fitness I’ve gotten used to now and it looks much cleaner. The additions to transfers and agents have definitely improved that process too. I’m yet to see any significant problems with the match engine - the running close to the post and shooting thing instead of an easy pass seems to be fixed. Only shit thing I saw was when I was playing Leicester my striker ran into a ball that was being cleared and he scored. It happens in real life so not too bad I suppose.

sitting in 3rd after around 9 games so far. Beat United and Arsenal and drew against Chelsea but lost against West Ham and had a terrible draw vs Brighton which has cost me some ground. Liverpool have won every game on my save so far.

DCL and Richarlison are class on this btw. So is Nkounkou so far.
 
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After a couple of shaky years 2016-19 ish, they’ve definitely improved with 20 and now this version. The little things I didn’t like such as the heart for the fitness I’ve gotten used to now and it looks much cleaner. The additions to transfers and agents have definitely improved that process too. I’m yet to see any significant problems with the match engine - the running close to the post and shooting thing instead of an easy pass seems to be fixed. Only shit thing I saw was when I was playing Leicester my striker ran into a ball that was being cleared and he scored. It happens in real life so not too bad I suppose.

sitting in 3rd after around 9 games so far. Beat United and Arsenal and drew against Chelsea but lost against West Ham and had a terrible draw vs Brighton which has cost me some ground. Liverpool have won every game on my save so far.

DCL and Richardson are class on this btw. So is Nkounkou so far.
At the age of 36, after a retirement! Well done to the man!

(I imagine you meant Richarlison)
 

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How are Marc Jurado and Alvaro Fernandez rated?
 

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Another thing that has annoyed me in several installments of FM is how often one of your players would run with the ball only for one of your other players to run across him resulting in a loose ball. Has anyone else seen that often? Or is it my tactics?
 

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how's the beta then? I think i spent less time on FM20 than the others, felt like a bit of a bloated mess with too much shite going on and I didn't like the way tactics were handled. This any better?
 

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I wonder if they’ve sorted the gegenpress. Saw experiments that’s seen Phil Jones become a top class striker and youth goalkeepers scoring 20+ goals for Liverpool in fm20 because of that tactic being so overpowered
 

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I won the league at a canter and lost in the CL final on pens.

Leicester went down so I thought feck it and resigned and took the job.

We have absolutely the best team to ever play in the championship, it's a bit surreal to see Vardy and Maddison running the show against Luton and Rotherham :lol:
 

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I'm going to try and not sign too many players and really use the excellent youth we have.

Already promoted Laird and Mengi. Given them both 90 minutes in the League Cup. Hannibal will come in and out. Confused Charlie McNeill with Charlie McCann though and wondered why the back-up striker I thought I put on the bench was a CM.
 

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I signed this young Italian CB from Brescia when I was United on a compensation contract for like 1.8 Million. He's a superb young BPD and probably this games Armini. Got him on loan for my Leicester side.

 

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Refusing to read the name of that player @Berbaclass otherwise my brain remembers it. Need to discover for myself :lol:
 

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I've just realised that we joined in the same year, have a similar amount of posts, and our usernames start with the same two letters.

Is it possible we're actually bots?
Error 404 bcbchfjfjfufuifi.
 

Solius

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I'm so used to saving and then browsing the internet for about 2 minutes while it does it. Can't get used to it only taking 10 seconds.
 

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Is this worth the upgrade from 2020? Still undecided to take the plunge...
 

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I'm so used to saving and then browsing the internet for about 2 minutes while it does it. Can't get used to it only taking 10 seconds.
Same here. I've constantly been pressing cmd+H to hide it and then realising it's probably finished already :lol:
 

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I've just spent a good amount of time making a load of search filters for different positions/roles that go around my tactic after they took the ability to do it in game. Still unsure whether it was intentional or not but it's literally the only thing I would have to complain about right now. Absolutely loving the game.

Think I've slept 6 hours since it was released at 8PM the other night :lol:
 

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Is this worth the upgrade from 2020? Still undecided to take the plunge...
It's pretty good so far. Very impressed with the new match engine.

Only played 4 games so far but I'm scoring all kinds of different goals instead of the same one over and over.
 

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Finally! I've been asking for this for ages. At last they've got actual accurate historic records.

 

Solius

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The SciSports stats are pretty cool and interesting.
 

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Cavani just got through on goal but at a bad angle. Instead of shooting into the side netting he held the ball up and played it to James who scored. So beautiful to see in FM finally :drool:
 

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I could not think of anything more unhelpful than this.