Agreed. This thread is full of some seriously cringe worthy stuff.Ironically, the manly men brigade sounds so insecure about their manhood that they can't even weep without convincing themselves that they lost their bollocks.
Agreed. This thread is full of some seriously cringe worthy stuff.Ironically, the manly men brigade sounds so insecure about their manhood that they can't even weep without convincing themselves that they lost their bollocks.
Here's Roger Federer crying after loosing Australian Open final to Nadal.
Federer is arguably one of the greatest and most universally beloved sportsman in history of any sport. Sportsman crying isn't something unique to football. How much these guys work to reach these finals is INSANE, coming up short at that moment is absolutely heart breaking. Keep in mind that they are always 1 big injury away from ever playing at the highest level so any final could very well be their last chance to win a trophy.
I am shocked reading stuff like "they shoudln't cry because there are people dying of hunger". If people are not allowed to show emotions over any matter that's not as grim as thousands of children dying of starvation, no one will ever cry about anything else.
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I almost did
I almost did
Was about 5 sentences in
Not really. I was running around laughing like a maniac when Terry was crying on the pitch like a baby.So, does making fun of a man crying because of football make a person a dick?
Not really. I was running around laughing like a maniac when Terry was crying on the pitch like a baby.
As were about 99% of this forum!Not really. I was running around laughing like a maniac when Terry was crying on the pitch like a baby.
I get what you're saying as a comparison point but neither are weird. Crying at movies is an indirect form of expressing emotion (catharsis). It's fine as long as you're not doing it in a flat-roofed pub.People cry at movies, which in a way is more silly than crying because you've been injured or knocked out of a competition. At least the latter has an actual impact on your life.
Wow, tough guy, real tough in front of his keyboard.Nope. It's not archaic. It's not very manly. Traditional does not mean outdated nor wrong.
Sarcasm? Tough guy? Try to being funny? Or its real? Which one is it?I tell you OP, never a truer word has been spoken. I mean there are actually men out there on that pitch who are openly weeping and demonstrating emotion after an unfavourable result. It baffles me that these folk can be so blatantly upset. There are even players smiling after a good win. Smiling! The only time a smile should be even remotely acceptable is after a huge trophy victory and even then it should only be a rueful smile that tells people that you are happy to have won but not so happy as to get carried away and that. Why in my day, we displayed our displeasure with a bad result by seeking out the nearest opposing player and punching him square in the nose. And if we won, we'd demonstrate our unbridled joy by shaking our appendages at the rival fans. Kids these days, what is the world coming to?
I've hired millennials regularly and they're great. Treat them with respect, assign duties clearly, give them guidance and support - I've never had a problem. I've hired about 20 odd people in thier late teens and early 20s and only regretted 2. 1 was not qualified for the job and struggled (but tried very hard), the other was a lazy son of a bitch. Young people just need a nurturing environment to flourish in, I pride myself in thinking my subordinates see themselves as my colleagues not my minions. Its the culture in our workplace.Are those the only two options?
Just seems to me that young people are very soft these days. Ever had to hire a millennial?
Apart from Nani that time.Let them cry I say. Better to let out those raw emotions out sometimes than to hold them in. Nothing wrong with it. There's too many stigmas attached to men crying.
ExactlyPeople complain that footballers are mercenaries that don't give a shit about the badge as long as they get paid.
Then the footballers show genuine emotion and people complain that grown ass men shouldn't cry.
Baffling.
Honestly, feck off with this toxic masculinity shit. It’s like the buzz word of the day. You can’t say anything anymore without the faux rage of social justice warriors. I’m as left wing, and equal rights as they come. Raised in an all female household, and have a daughter in an interracial family, and I still think it’s a bit soft for grown adults to be crying over work. Men or women. It’s got nothing to do with masculinity and everything to do with maturity.There's a pungent scent of toxic masculinity off of this thread OP.
Someone said earlier (can't be arsed going back to find and quote them) that they find it hard to envision crying over their job. To be fair, if you're a footballer you'll have trained most days a week from your youth, and when you hit a certain age it's 5 days a week, match on Saturday and recovery. For the overwhelming majority of footballers (barring Benoit Assou-Ekotto) this isn't their job, it's their life since a very young age. Not just heading to the office and counting down the seconds til Friday.
If we take the most recent examples in Salah and Carvajal, in the situation that you have to leave the pitch so early on in the biggest game in club football and potentially miss representing your nation at the World Cup, I think it's more than fair to shed a few tears. Arguably more cajones in them to do it in front of the millions watching rather than wait to get down the tunnel.
Do you want Footballers to think of it as just a job? Don't you want them to be passionate about it?Honestly, feck off with this toxic masculinity shit. It’s like the buzz word of the day. You can’t say anything anymore without the faux rage of social justice warriors. I’m as left wing, and equal rights as they come. Raised in an all female household, and have a daughter in an interracial family, and I still think it’s a bit soft for grown adults to be crying over work. Men or women. It’s got nothing to do with masculinity and everything to do with maturity.
Ahhhh the good ol' persecution complex.You can’t say anything anymore without the faux rage of social justice warriors.
Reading this part reminded me of this:There's a pungent scent of toxic masculinity off of this thread OP.
Someone said earlier (can't be arsed going back to find and quote them) that they find it hard to envision crying over their job. To be fair, if you're a footballer you'll have trained most days a week from your youth, and when you hit a certain age it's 5 days a week, match on Saturday and recovery. For the overwhelming majority of footballers (barring Benoit Assou-Ekotto) this isn't their job, it's their life since a very young age. Not just heading to the office and counting down the seconds til Friday.
If we take the most recent examples in Salah and Carvajal, in the situation that you have to leave the pitch so early on in the biggest game in club football and potentially miss representing your nation at the World Cup, I think it's more than fair to shed a few tears. Arguably more cajones in them to do it in front of the millions watching rather than wait to get down the tunnel.
Christ mate. Give over.Ahhhh the good ol' persecution complex.
It’s not just work though. As a footballer you dedicate your entire life to football. It’s not like another job that you pick up in your 20s. This is your whole life. You’re obviously going to be far more invested in it than any of us will be with our jobs.Honestly, feck off with this toxic masculinity shit. It’s like the buzz word of the day. You can’t say anything anymore without the faux rage of social justice warriors. I’m as left wing, and equal rights as they come. Raised in an all female household, and have a daughter in an interracial family, and I still think it’s a bit soft for grown adults to be crying over work. Men or women. It’s got nothing to do with masculinity and everything to do with maturity.
And they are done by 35. Whereas we keep going until we are 65. So depends on your age doesn’t it?It’s not just work though. As a footballer you dedicate your entire life to football. It’s not like another job that you pick up in your 20s. This is your whole life. You’re obviously going to be far more invested in it than any of us will be with our jobs.
Apologizing when you're crying isn't brave. He was basically doing a "please don't kill me" instead of just going inside. Instead Liverpool fans had to look at him walking around the pitch crying alone while Real were celebrating the win.I'd argue this point in reverse. Karius was in a position in which running down the tunnel would have got him pelters. To his credit, he was brave and apologised to the people that travelled miles of money to watch him spoil their night. Getting upset along the way is justified.
Crying because you've pulled your hamstring is just daft. It's already been mentioned above that it doesn't present a great image in terms of team psychology. You're injured. Get up, get on with it and give the bloke who's replacing you a high five and some encouragement. Don't sob and sulk like a toddler.
Look I don't want to get personal here we have a difference of opinion. I find grown men roaring over sport quite pathetic.What a pathetic, close minded attitude you have.
You've seen me roundUnless you are 6ft4, ripped and packed with muscle, cut trees with an axe and fight alligators with your bare hands I'm not having that.
It's laughable for some Joe Schmoe to try to say who is and isn't a man.