I’m not going to berate a pro footballer, with all the pressure and dedication it takes, for crying. However, seeing adult fans grying because their team lost? Yeah, that’s just literally sad.
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This. Amazed with stigma around here.
Time's a' changing. Plus, it isn't only football. Every time I turn on the tennis Roger Federer is in tears. Andy Murray breaking down after Wimbledon was one of the most real moments I've seen in sport. Feeling as if you've let millions of people down and it's your responsibility... it's understandable.
Grown adults at games, however? They need to man up and stop acting like babies.
Grown adults at games, however? They need to man up and stop acting like babies.
Does anyone have a video that shows the Liverpool players crying after the RM loss? I heard Henderson and Milner were bawling and do not want to miss seeing that. Time for that Eric Cartman GIF.
'Man up' as a phrase has so many things wrong it it it's unbelievable.
Players get rained down on if they are seen smiling and generally looking happy after a defeat, and they seemingly get rained down on if they cry. Players are berated for having poor body language and/or looking disinterested, but now if they look upset, it's too much? It's as if they are walking an emotional tightrope of what is allowed and what isn't (according to fans), and I think we are expecting a little too much of footballers to not express any sort of emotion in what is a sport that is fueled by a great deal of emotion and passion.
I think it's unfair to throw at them "there are people dying in the world", as if that would enter their thought process at the moment they begin to show any sort of emotion on the pitch. Footballers are trained to be entirely focused in that moment, concentration and mentality are arguably equally as important as talent, so when that moment capitulates, it is not surprising that such emotion and anguish is expressed. Players train and train with the ultimate goal of winning the biggest trophies, they dream of it since they are young and the sacrifice a lot to reach that point. Salah might never be back in a Champions League final again. That might have been his only chance, and that might have been the very thought running through his head as he had to leave the pitch, as well as his team mates and the fans he may feel he is letting down. It's a crushing thought.
I have no problem seeing Liverpool get beaten by any which way possible and I'm glad Madrid won regardless of how it happened, but I did feel for Salah individually at that moment. He's had an incredible season, he's broken records, played in just about every game, somewhat carried the team all the way through the year to reach that ultimate stage, and all the pressure that must have been on him to deliver will have been enormous. He got hurt, and he tried to continue, and he couldn't. The guy must have been crushed, and I don't know how someone could have kept that in. I guess he could have taken the manly option and punched the ground and kicked a water bottle, but even then, he'd probably have been dubbed as 'throwing a tantrum' or something, because men and emotions = oil and water. All men should just be like Action Man. One plastic-moulded permanent grimace.
I think it's unfair to throw at them "there are people dying in the world", as if that would enter their thought process at the moment they begin to show any sort of emotion on the pitch. Footballers are trained to be entirely focused in that moment, concentration and mentality are arguably equally as important as talent, so when that moment capitulates, it is not surprising that such emotion and anguish is expressed. Players train and train with the ultimate goal of winning the biggest trophies, they dream of it since they are young and the sacrifice a lot to reach that point. Salah might never be back in a Champions League final again. That might have been his only chance, and that might have been the very thought running through his head as he had to leave the pitch, as well as his team mates and the fans he may feel he is letting down. It's a crushing thought.
I have no problem seeing Liverpool get beaten by any which way possible and I'm glad Madrid won regardless of how it happened, but I did feel for Salah individually at that moment. He's had an incredible season, he's broken records, played in just about every game, somewhat carried the team all the way through the year to reach that ultimate stage, and all the pressure that must have been on him to deliver will have been enormous. He got hurt, and he tried to continue, and he couldn't. The guy must have been crushed, and I don't know how someone could have kept that in. I guess he could have taken the manly option and punched the ground and kicked a water bottle, but even then, he'd probably have been dubbed as 'throwing a tantrum' or something, because men and emotions = oil and water. All men should just be like Action Man. One plastic-moulded permanent grimace.
It's not great, granted, but when describing a grown man in a stadium, crying because his team has lost, then it's probably appropriate.
Spot on, this sentence you just mentioned makes the least sense for me when it is said by people to criticize rich people (not just footballers) of having a bad day or feeling horrible.
No matter who you are, how much you earn, your status in society, you're a human and some things will affect more than others.
Tell the guy with no home that he can't feel bad because there's another guy next to him with no home and his kid has cancer.
They should both man up, there is a third guy that lost his home, his dog died, his wife left him, his pickup truck doesn't work and his kid is sick.
Crying is fine. Grown men crying because their football team lost is pathetic. It's not about the display of emotion, so much as being ludicrously over-invested in the result.
You're right, what a fecking softarse.
At that point perhaps they've got literally nothing else going on and they're crying at how their life has turned out. Just a guess mind.
Although they are top reds, and top reds have to care more than the rest of us do.
Player or fan and would of be more understandable if it was a grown woman?
I grew up watching football in the 90s so yeah...seeing all these footballers crying so frequently is starting to creep me out.
Nope. Still pathetic.
Did you miss Euro 96? Even Psycho Stuart Pearce cried.
Some players are just a little bit soft. Ronaldo is a crybaby and he's one of the greatest players ever.
No I remember, players cry more frequently nowadays that was my point.
True, although I'd draw the line at defaecation a la Linekar!
He is widely regarded and one of the platpla with the greatest mentality.
Think the problem here is crying has become synonymous with being soft when it really isn't.
I said fan further above. It would be equally silly if it was a woman. It's a game of football. If you're in buckets of tears because of a loss then it's probably time to find something else to do with your spare time.
Ronaldo is soft, but soft people can also be extremely dedicated and mentally focused. There's obviously insecurites within Ronaldo's mind, but those insecurities drive him to be the best.
If one hardened cockney who was known as 'Psycho' cried - which is far less publicised than Gazza crying at Italia 90 - why does it matter that it happens more frequently? And does it actually happen more frequently? Even now, it's usually reserved for major finals, and I certainly remember footballers crying in finals and international tournaments since I was a kid. Maradona seemed to always be crying. I vividly remember seeing tears from Vialli, Batistuta and Beckham at some point when I was young, plus a lot of players I don't even remember the names of. Football Italia on Channel 4, there was someone crying almost every week.
I don't think it's a new thing. We probably (definitely) watch much more televised football than we used to, which is likely to be relative with the supposed increase. I'd rather footballers be that emotionally invested in what they do than just see it as a job and act in a very robotic way towards it.
Rather a few of ours cry at times, look like they care. Seriously though don't mind if it's in a huge occasion like CL final or WC final ect. The adrenaline and journey it takes to get there must be draining mentally. Oh and don't cry if you get battered, needs to be close too. You can't be down 3.0 at half time and finish 5.0 and start crying. Bayern 99 is the perfect example. Your minutes away from winning the European cup and within a matter of seconds your out. People are not made of stone, I rarely cry but haven't got a issue with players breaking down at full time in certain occasions. Fans however? No. They can be deflated, down or angry in my opinion, that's all.
Crying I can understand, the reasons why can be harder to grasp at times. Think / Hope it's more frustration than anything else.
To shed tears in your last game at a club you've played in for 20 years I fully understand. Getting relegated, losing a final less so, but to each his own I guess.
To shed tears in your last game at a club you've played in for 20 years I fully understand. Getting relegated, losing a final less so, but to each his own I guess.
More understandable than supporters crying.
Do you work some kind of job where millions of people are watching you, what you do might be remembered for decades, millions of euros are at stake and in case you feck up you get death threats?
Men cry, as they always should of been able to, suicide is the biggest cause of death for men under the age of 45, and part of that reason is we've been conditioned to hold in emotions and 'man up' instead of seeking help because you're somehow less masculine if you do. The millenials comment was ridiculous, quite frankly i'm in a terrible personal situation currently and i've cried a few times within the last week or so over it. People at football matches, and it might seem sad for some, but perhaps football is all they have in their lives and they want to see their team win, the fact that some people here are dictating whether fans can cry or not is just wow.
I don't really care if a footballer is crying after losing a big match and stuff. But fans (grown men and woman) crying is pathetic imo.
Is there ever a right time for a man to cry? Just man up every time you feel a little emotional?
I believe Jordan's father had recently been murdered if im not mistaken, but clearly he should of just 'manned up' and stopped crying
Well, if you feel 'a little emotional' and immediately cry, then you might have a problem.
No, his father was murdered in 1993. That is from his first win in 1991.
Pele and Maradona cried all the time, might be that it's just more tolerated in other cultures and they are just really emotional people.
This x1000.
What do people even mean when they say "man up"? Bottle up your true emotions so you don't look weak? Yeah, that sounds really healthy. We're living in a time where the biggest killer of men under 45 is suicide and mens mental health is still being brushed under the carpet.
For a lot of players, football was the only thing they had going for them when they grew up. A lot of them grew up poor and with little/no education. Imagine spending your life focusing on being good enough to win the Champions League and then lose at the last hurdle. Anyone would be devastated.
I'd be telling my brain I'm a fully grown adult male on live tv if you feel a bit sad now over this football match don't worry kid you've got a model for a wife and a Lamborghini at your mansion for a home. Chin upCrying over other people you've never met isn't healthy mate, you shouldn't do that.
And yeah, society currently dictates that it is worse, and I don't disagree that on balance, it's worse losing your home, family and business than losing a football match but you try telling your brain which doesn't discern a difference, that it's worse and make it stop releasing the chemicals that cause you to feel pain because apparently it's not worthy of it.
Oh right, so because they've got money means they're not allowed to feel sadness? There's more to happiness than millions mate, you know that right?
Seems to me you haven't grown up.
The question I'd like to ask is what's wrong with showing how you really feel as a fully grown adult male on live tv? Let's face it, for most of these guys a model wife and a Lamborghini are by-products of the life-long dedication you've put in to be a top footballer. You put in your very best to get there and then fail - no amount of material possessions can make up for that.
Nope. It's not archaic. It's not very manly. Traditional does not mean outdated nor wrong.