From Chelsea talking about Tammy's hat trick yesterday, a few minutes before Frank's sacking was announced. Someone didn't tell the social media person about Frank!Tweet deleted.
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If Lampard was among those players who pushed managers out, I'd have no sympathy. In fact, it would be quite satisfying, as far as I know though, he always gave his all for his managers and team matesI think he may have lost the dressing room which tbf we learned is quite easy at Chelsea.
.. the cross in 15 monthsTuchel 100% nailed on
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Oh, dear...From Chelsea talking about Tammy's hat trick yesterday, a few minutes before Frank's sacking was announced. Someone didn't tell the social media person about Frank!
It’s a bit different actually. Like it or not, Abramovich paid hundreds of millions for these several expensive signings, it’s an investment. He spends money, and then Lampard just plays Mount instead - effectively saying that Abramovich just wasted funds. To add to that, Lampard didn’t have results to back his stance - so the sackIrrelevant for this season and Mount wasn't a regular but he earned his place since those foreign signings did feck all.
Top player. Him burning you Irish fans doesn’t change that. Hope we take advantage of it, he’d be perfect for us.Poor Rice will never have his dream move to Chelsea now. Though I wish Lamps had of been sanctioned silly money to buy him.
The only big money player who can say Mount took their place is Havertz, who had a ton of games and was utter garbage for most of them, don't you agree?It’s a bit different actually. Like it or not, Abramovich paid hundreds of millions for these several expensive signings, it’s an investment. He spends money, and then Lampard just plays Mount instead - effectively saying that Abramovich just wasted funds. To add to that, Lampard didn’t have results to back his stance - so the sack
I don't disagree but just saying that the particular example of Mount isn't valid here.It’s a bit different actually. Like it or not, Abramovich paid hundreds of millions for these several expensive signings, it’s an investment. He spends money, and then Lampard just plays Mount instead - effectively saying that Abramovich just wasted funds. To add to that, Lampard didn’t have results to back his stance - so the sack
Same could be said about most Chelsea managers over the last few years..Tuchel will probably be able to get Werner and Havertz playing. Good coach. He's a creepy weirdo, though.
Ole is not in the same boat as Lampard. Lampard and Arteta both have very little experience as managers, both have just started their careers as managers.Seems harsh but losing a Championship playoff final does not qualify you for a job such as Chelsea.
He was however offered the job of his dreams within a year of becoming a manager so he was always going to take it.
In a decade he will probably look back and think that was silly.
Abramovich has to take some responsibility here for the same reason, I get that Lampard is a club legend as a player but where's the managerial apprenticeship?
Surely you should have to do more to earn these top jobs. If he'd have had success elsewhere he was always going to get the job one day so why not be patient?
Gerrard has been clever by going to a job where he had a 50/50 chance of winning the title early in his managerial career. When they close out the league this season he's put a huge tick in a box and the powers that be at Liverpool will obviously have noticed for future reference.
Arteta and Ole are in similar boats to Lampard, no managerial success of note at any decent level, they're under extra pressure and will be cut no slack. Fortunately for us at the moment Ole is doing very well!
But the proof is in the pudding at the end of the season, there's a reason it's been Klopp vs. Pep for the last few seasons.
Edit: I forgot to mention Lampard has a right to have expected a lot more from his 2 German forwards, especially Werner.
Could see the dressing room problem in the game yesterday. That is why I posted after the game. Mount has played well for us, as you say. Issue was generally how most of the dressing room viewed things imo.The only big money player who can say Mount took their place is Havertz, who had a ton of games and was utter garbage for most of them, don't you agree?
Werner always played, Puli and Ziyech always played.
Lampard might not have got these guys performing but you can't say he didn't pick them, he did.
They bought half a team of starters. I absolutely agree that the summer spending spree is alone at fault for Frank's sacking. They should have focused on upgrading the back end, they were more than good enough offensively last year.Really that big transfer windows was the worst thing to happen to him.
His agent deserves any commission that's coming his way. If it all goes wrong for Tuchel a year down the line he'll be in for a colossal pay-out.Apparently Tuchel is set to be given a 4.5 year contract. Bit weird given Mourinho from 2004-2007 is the only manager to stay in a job at Chelsea for more than 2 years since Abramovich bought the club.
That's a rather interesting point, and speaks loudly to just how important man management is in a football club. In Manchester United, Scott McTominay spoke on behalf of the players and urged the board to keep him despite the bad results.Could see the dressing room problem in the game yesterday. That is why I posted after the game. Mount has played well for us, as you say. Issue was generally how most of the dressing room viewed things imo.
Reports around Rudiger, Kovacic and others had such big issues they went directly to Marina about them.
I hope Tuchel can keep academy prospects in the team but also get best out of all the rest. Then we will be a very good side.
I do agree. And it was very unfortunate for Lampard because Havertz in particular was the most expensive signing.The only big money player who can say Mount took their place is Havertz, who had a ton of games and was utter garbage for most of them, don't you agree?
After Petr participates and has a shocker in training (still a keeper on their books right? ):I wonder who told him. Maybe an awkward convo with Petr Cech.
That's a bit worrying about the mentality of the players if true I feel..Could see the dressing room problem in the game yesterday. That is why I posted after the game. Mount has played well for us, as you say. Issue was generally how most of the dressing room viewed things imo.
Reports around Rudiger, Kovacic and others had such big issues they went directly to Marina about them.
I hope Tuchel can keep academy prospects in the team but also get best out of all the rest. Then we will be a very good side.
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True. I've also just remembered Derby too.Ole had plenty of experience before moving here but still came across as a little inexperienced when he got here. It was a surprisingly short sighted decision from Lampard to take this one.
Agreed.The situations aren't in any way comparable.
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My apologies. I meant Kai Havertz.Ziyech has been excellent in my opinion
If The Athletic are to be believed, Lampard was a horrendous man manager - never shied away from making it clear who his favourites were and went months without communicating with those outside his circle.That's a rather interesting point, and speaks loudly to just how important man management is in a football club. In Manchester United, Scott McTominay spoke on behalf of the players and urged the board to keep him despite the bad results.
I wonder what the issue has been with Franks style of personell leadership. Has he actually been bad or are there dramaqueens in the squad?
Just seen itDeleted, was that Danny Drinkwater's tweet?
to be fair neither was/is Ole!Wonder what his career path looks like now. He's still a comparatively young manager, but does he drop back down to the Championship or move abroad to try and repair his reputation or maybe take some time away from the game?
Even with his stint at Derby, he's not exactly well credentialed.
Nah. They would have gone for Poch if Tuchel was not available. This has been long overdue from Chelsea standards when it comes to managers. Lampard got far more time than the usual struggling manager at Chelsea would.The moment Tuchel became available, he was fecked.
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