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Yeah but you work for shinra so no one gives a feck about your opinion.And he doesn't really stand out there either.
People hype this up:
Yeah but you work for shinra so no one gives a feck about your opinion.And he doesn't really stand out there either.
People hype this up:
I’ve seen that. And yet the moment he’s in the lineup it will probably be those same people that are complaining he’s been played and not sold.Have a look at the Darmian thread, lots are overjoyed that we are holding out for 12m euros total instead of letting him go for 8m euros total. He'll get to play 5 games a season and some on here can get a moral victory from it while everyone else is lamenting our bad defence.
The key here is the 'if' They are taking a huge punt that he will, whereas it's far from a guarantee! Hope it works out for both though!75m euros isn't really that much if he lives up to his potential, a world class CM that has 10+ years at the top potentially.
The way the market is you can't go out and but an established player like Veratti for 75m, very few top teams will sell their best players for anywhere near that now. So you need to spend big on buying the upcoming talent. Barcelona are building a very good young team with players like Dembele, Arthur and De Jong.
I mean, we paid close to £50 million for Fred last summer, who's a lot older yet has only showed it at Shaktar. Manchester City casually threw £60 million in the winter market at a young CB who only showed it at Bilbao, not even for his country.Why do we get so caught up in the transfer fee? Barca got the player they wanted and that's all that matters. I wish United were this ruthless in the transfer market.
Busquets/De JongVidal
De Jong
Busquets
Rakitic
Arthur
Rabiot (possibly)
Someone has to be leaving.
Pavard went to Bayern.Pavard, Arthur, Ousmane Dembele and now frenkie De Jong. This looks tasty no matter how you look at it. They might flop but the upside is scary if they reach their potential.
I meant to say LengletPavard went to Bayern.
Busquets hasn't been at his best lately, seems to be getting on. De Jong ideal replacement to take over in the next seasons, young enough to not have to take over immediately, they can bring him slowly.Its the right move for him? If he is a DM as people said they have Busquets there.
I want to see their books. And no, I'm not bitter.Pavard, Arthur, Ousmane Dembele and now frenkie De Jong. This looks tasty no matter how you look at it. They might flop but the upside is scary if they reach their potential.
Hey ho! I'll always appreciate a FF7 reference.Yeah but you work for shinra so no one gives a feck about your opinion.
At least now you can do an Atlético Madrid and act as the pure small team investing in youth trying to break the unbelievable investment Barcelona is making.Great signing. I do not know where they get the money from.
To counterattack this great tranfer, Madrid will sign a child for 50 million or a couple of goalkeepers.
Haven't you guys resorted to a version of 4-4-2 at times under Valverde as well? You could add someone like Coutinho to that list in such a system, but then it's still 6 (or maybe 7) for 4 positions.Busquets/De Jong
Rakitic/Vidal Arthur
Not really. Only 5 players for 3 positions. And 3 of them are >30 yeard old.
Once Messi retires or at least becomes less of a key player in a few years time though their wage bill will be more in line with other clubs. The wage bill is only so high because they have to pay one the greatest ever his worth.Barcelona’s wage structure is beyond ridiculous, how the hell can they keep buying players for this amount and paying them so much when their wage bill is already so much bigger than any other club?
It would be hilarious if they keep failing to win the Champions League after this kind of investment.
They still made a profit on most of those dud's though. With Mina they more than doubled their money in about 6 months, they made a bout a £5 Million profit on Digne a back up full back, they made a small profit on Paulinho who I would have said was more of a surprise success than a dud, Deulofeu they made another 5 Million on. The money that Barca have made the last few windows on unwanted players is quite incredible.They've bought some duds too in recent years. Mina, Turan, Gomes, Digne, Paulinho and Deulofeu are already gone, all recent buys. Their big buys recently: Malcolm hasn't exactly set the world on fire, Coutinho has been underwhelming, so has Dembele.
Might be one of their own academy players Eiting but he's getting surgery, so don't know if they'll attract a new player for that position. They also have an incredible 16 year old in that position who's already starting to knock on the door of the first team, Ryan Gravenberch.Who will Ajax replace him with?
Or they do what Real always does, which is to join the arms race and lure Pogba away from us in the summerAt least now you can do an Atlético Madrid and act as the pure small team trying to break the unbelievable investment Barcelona is making.
He won’t retire anytime soon though. He’ll probably renew soon and start getting even more.Once Messi retires or at least becomes less of a key player in a few years time though their wage bill will be more in line with other clubs. The wage bill is only so high because they have to pay one the greatest ever his worth.
I guarantee that 90% of the guys raving about him hadn't, except of course our Dutch posters.Never seen him play but the way people talk it's like he could be the best in the world. Hadn't heard of him until a few months ago tbh.
De Jong has always had a preference for Barcelona, many Ajax players do. Man City has nowhere near the stature in the Netherlands that Barcelona has. So it's really upto Barcelona to capitalise on that or not, same goes for De Ligt.Money over Pep. Ridiculous really when you think about it.
Mctominay of courseWho will Ajax replace him with?
Look at the joker, that about Atlético is too much. We are not so rich because we PAY our taxes!!At least now you can do an Atlético Madrid and act as the pure small team investing in youth trying to break the unbelievable investment Barcelona is making.
I was joking obviously! It's hardly a surprise that he ended up in Barcelona.De Jong has always had a preference for Barcelona, many Ajax players do. Man City has nowhere near the stature in the Netherlands that Barcelona has. So it's really upto Barcelona to capitalise on that or not, same goes for De Ligt.
I think there's a lot of risk involved in that as well. A dip in form or injury and now the option to move to a top club may not be available. I've only seen highlights on youtube but based off that it does seem like he's the typical Barca midfielder. Let's hope De Ligt is United bound.I mean, we paid close to £50 million for Fred last summer, who's a lot older yet has only showed it at Shaktar. Manchester City casually threw £60 million in the winter market at a young CB who only showed it at Bilbao, not even for his country.
Now a year later transfer fees have inflated a little again, and the £65-£70 million Barca paid for him seems like a very normal price for this type of talent. It's not a bargain at all, but not much of a rip-off either.
My personal opinion on the kid is that staying at Ajax for one more year wouldn't be the worst thing for his development. I'm convinced he would completely flop if he moved to a team like Everton this summer for example. But in terms of skillset he's so naturally talented at the things that are fundamental for the type of football Barcelona want to play, and unlike most of his peers he's actually a very intelligent, funny and down to earth fella as well. Seems like the type who really has that ability to learn, self reflect, adapt and develop as a player.
And he's only 21 years old now as well, 22 when he will make the move. Even if it takes him three full seasons to settle in we're still talking about a player who's only 25 then, normally with his best years still very much ahead of him. And considering the inflation of transfer fees over the years they might not even lose that much money if they would have to flogg him off around that time.
So yeah all things considered I'm quite jealous at Barca for getting this done. Would've loved it if we somehow would've gotten our hands on him, maybe with the idea to let him stay at Ajax for another year.
It's mostly their wages. Their net transfer spending hasn't been that high or much higher than us over the past 3 seasons because they had a lot of outgoing transfers too, that included ofcourse the Neymar sale.Barcelona must have a magic money tree.
Impossible to replace directly. That kind of generational player isn't in the Eredivisie, and won't move to the Eredivisie but to a bigger league if he isn't there already, even if Ajax would be willing to splash out the money. They will probably buy but play different in the end as compared to with Frenkie. I'm thinking of buys like Tadić, proven players to complement the youngsters. Some great talent is developing in the youth teams as well such as Gravenberch, but as usual we'll have to wait to see if they can make the step to the first team.Who will Ajax replace him with?