They will owe him those wages if they want to sell him. He gives it up if he intends to leave. That's how I see it.
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Yep, and the silence on that front is very telling
Which is exactly why he's not agreeing a deal with Barca straight away. Make them sweat it and give him a proper offer for his deferred wages. Or pay him for another year. No way they'll feck around next season by leaving him on the bench or at CB.
Yep because United still believe that they'll get him, and if they believe, then i do too.
We don't know the true story, the deal could be pretty much done for all we know... we have no idea
Yeah silence is golden
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His agent is doing all the dirty work and he seems not the easiest one to fold about it. So Barcelona is in a pickle anyway.
Dreadful source though
If they are offering to pay it over ten years, which I wouldn’t put beyond them with how they’ve acted, that’d make a big difference to life decisions, but sure, let’s pretend there’s no massive difference between 1.7m annually (minus tax) and 17-20m in one lump sum
Has anything actually changed since page one?
Well, the same wording from Ali Dursun has been going around for ages from different sources - nothing new, but the story remains the same. Work to do to find a solution that gives Frenkie and his reps the outcome they want.
So whats this talk of him being owed 17M Euros?
With Kounde coming in now, surely its pretty much guaranteed that Barca have to sell De Jong or they won't be able to register all their purchases.
The fact that Margot Robbie hasn't said no yet to me is telling.
She’s gagging for a slice of PoTMS
Not quite. They definitely have to sell - to get transfer income and wage off the bill. But it may be not only de Jong - they could also sell another player (or three). They need financial numbers.
It is the amount he would have been paid had he not agreed to push it into the future years of his contract. If Barca don't want to honour the contract then he wants the 17M paid now, if they were happy to let him stay on existing terms he would stay.
She's coming (hopefully).
Frenkie is ideal because a willing buyer is lined up for a very good fee. They have a bunch of players they would love to offload but nobody really interested and they would be fire sale prices at best and they would probably need to compensate players for loss of earnings there too as much of the deadwood are on crazy contracts they will never match elsewhere, sounds familiar as a Man Utd fan.
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whatever the feck that even means
Any significant updates since last Friday? I lost track because of real family issues.
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I have never once visited that site, it’s full of cnuts in black shirts!
You know my word. It’s on.
so they want to play him as a centre back and then go and sign Kounde, how many more signings will it take to tell him hes not wanted and isnt being paid.
Its like you know youre going home after payday and the kids will be there wanting money, so you go and spend it all and then be all innocent and say theres nothing left, sorry, could you lend me some to fuel the car I just bought.
Its like you know youre going home after payday and the kids will be there wanting money, so you go and spend it all and then be all innocent and say theres nothing left, sorry, could you lend me some to fuel the car I just bought.
Well shitI have never once visited that site, it’s full of cnuts in black shirts!
has eth said anything about eriksen playing as a 10. I havent seen the latest interviews though
That's bit more positive Andy
Some very familiar about all this
Do we know if there is a realistic way to resolve this 17 million problem?
I mean, if Barca pays the 17 million now, then this will count towards their wage limit for next year, right? So, perhaps for accounting reasons it is impossible for them to do this, even if they wanted to.
On the other hand, if Man Utd accepts to pay an extra 17 million as wages, then they will want to spread this to multiple years --- basically Frenkie will have an elevated salary for the next few years. But he already has this, so why move? Plus this will mess up the wage structure for Man Utd.
I mean, if Barca pays the 17 million now, then this will count towards their wage limit for next year, right? So, perhaps for accounting reasons it is impossible for them to do this, even if they wanted to.
On the other hand, if Man Utd accepts to pay an extra 17 million as wages, then they will want to spread this to multiple years --- basically Frenkie will have an elevated salary for the next few years. But he already has this, so why move? Plus this will mess up the wage structure for Man Utd.
I'm sure the accountants and the lawyers can work something out if Barca actually wants to pay that 17M.
So far their stance has been you will only get your deferred wages if you are a part of Barcelona and given you won't be, we don't owe you a penny.
But they are trying to shove him out the door without honouring the wages he deferred. FDJ played for relative peanuts for 2 years to help the club out, on the understanding those wages would be repaid (plus interest) over the remaining years of his contract. Now they want to default on that agreement by either selling him before the end of contact, or getting him to accept a wage cut. Which ever way you look at it that is basically theft of his money, whilst they happily dish out deals to new players.
So, option 3) they agree to pay the money they are trying to steal and he moves. Best deal for all parties.
Oh God yes, i think i squirmed so deep into my chair part of me is still there.
It’s 17m not $17
Why the feck would anybody give that up willingly.
Not talking about giving it up. Lump sum vs installments.No shit, it’s 8 weeks for 20 million euros man
ahhh the memories ..Some very familiar about all this
No, they won’t.
Would you trust them to pay the instalments after he’s gone - after the way he’s been treated thus far?
He agreed to change the structure of his pay to earn less in 2020-22 but more in 2022-26.
That’s why he’s not moving until they do. Pretty simple really.
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