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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Don’t forget you have to give his big bald head a couple of shakes! I can’t remember why. He’s sure got it coming though.
Transfer muppets have diamond hands! Let’s go!
They don’t. Mitten said the other day that Chelsea don’t have a DOF right now, so their new owner is flying around Europe and hijacking deals because he doesn’t want to be accused of not spending and being compared to the previous owner. He also said there’s absolutely no plan as to how any of these players will fit into the squad or the team. They’re signing for the sake of signing
Generation porn can't comment on anything without sex being involved. Everything is always about being cucked, owned, bossed, humiliated, dominated. Their fragile minds have been totally warped.
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We likely have an agreement of sorts but nothing signed or official so he cna get this money he is owed. As soon as he signals his intention to leave barca will tell him to feck off.
How does any of this have any relevance to what I'm saying? Who is arguing Ten Hag doesn't want the player? He is completely in his right to 'drive the wait' as by all accounts, Frenkie hasn't made up his mind as to what he wants to do yet. In your hypothetical scenario, assuming the board inform him it's not happening and it's time to move onto alternatives, then yes, it would not be a failure on their behalf. I really don't know what the feck you're arguing tbh. My initial point was it would be a failure on their behalf if we were to continue with the line that Frenkie is the only one who can improve us and we don't pursue any alternate targets, because you're being daft if you think any manager wouldn't accept improvements to their playing squad, even if it wasn't their preferred targets.
If Frenkie falls through, we pursue adequate alternatives and strengthen the squad, then yes, I don't consider that a failure. If Frenkie falls through, we end up signing no replacement as 'we will try to coach the players we have' or some rubbish, then yes, I consider that to be a failure by the board. It's a cheap cop out to justify not spending.
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The feeling around Utd is Chelsea should go feck ‘emselves.
People have always been reluctant to sell to domestic rivals and have always been willing to force rivals to use up their budget by pretending to be in for players to create bidding wars. It's always been a game of 3d chess. This is just an extension of that.
Clearly Spurs, Arsenal, MUFC and Chelsea are competing for 3rd and 4th spot. Keeping us down means Chelsea's top 4 finish is 66% likely instead of 50% likely. That''s worth a lot.
None of us can possibly know what Frenkie has or hadn’t decided as of this moment. He may be tormented with indecision or he may have plotted it all out, whatever his plot may be.
I’m arguing what I’ve been arguing from the beginning, that is that the bolded part of your post above makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The transfer guys could limit further spending much easier by simply telling the manager that this player is not available and moving on to a cheaper player. It would also mean a massive saving in wages.
The manager himself is saying that he’s waiting until the right player becomes available, so either the manager is being honest and he is the one waiting or he is towing some weird party line to help justify limiting spending.
In short it makes absolutely no sense what you were claiming.
Oh boo hoo! Not enough shiny toys, waah!
Great summary of United's stance
Yes, I wonder if Tuchels comments after the game today were a message to those doing Chelsea’s business. They already have a lot of great midfielders, I doubt it is an area of concern for him.
Listen to your boy Tommy, Boehly you profiterole you!
Pretty sure stuff has been going on behind the scenes. Depay has his lawyers working on his exit and probably Frenkie is doing the same.
As of now, there is no other bid for Frenkie, just ours. So no gazzumping needed ( not only is this thread entertaining, it is also educational ).
As of now, there is no other bid for Frenkie, just ours. So no gazzumping needed ( not only is this thread entertaining, it is also educational ).
An individual can think that spending $100 for a nice shirt is worthwhile, they're willing to spend $100 but for whatever reason cannot purchase the shirt. They may not be willing to spend $30 for a shirt they don't like as much. Assuming they have the means, they should still probably spend that $30 as they are currently topless and there's a fecking blizzard outside. That's the current predicament with our midfield. Just because they are willing to spend whatever the cost is for FDJ, doesn't make it any less a disappointment if assuming that deal falls through, they don't spend whatever is required to pursue alternative options.
Also your hypothetical makes no sense, you don't know who we would end up signing as an alternative in your make belief scenario, nor how much they would cost. For all you know, clubs know we are now desperate to strengthen our midfield, with less time in the window for clubs to find replacements, resulting in them milking us.
Once again - if, they do spend whatever is necessary then yes, awesome, good stuff Murtough. Assuming they don't though, because as they've leaked throughout this window in the past, they need a very specific player to improve the midfield and don't end up signing anyone, then no, I would place that blame on the board because some people on the CAF would probably improve our midfield, let alone professional footballers.
Behave mate. Chelsea are absolutely not going to sign FDJ for 85m just to make sure Utd don’t finish top 4. That’s ridiculous. If they buy FDJ, they will do so because they think he’ll improve them.
If Chelsea want to spend 400k per week on a guy who's hardly lit up La Liga then they're welcome to him. I would rather have Ruiz who'd cost a third in transfer fees and a quarter in wages, who's stats are on par if not better than De Jong's. Not to mention I fear that this might turn into a Di Maria version 2.0 with his reluctance to sign for us and the selling club pushing him out to us just because we're willing to pay a daft fee and dafter wages.
Don‘t talk about Frenkie de Jong stats at Barcelona, he was played out of position.
If they wanted to save money, they could’ve moved on a month ago and have plenty of time not to look desperate in the window.
Doesn’t matter how you spin it when we’re offering 80+ million for a midfielder, we are clearly prepared to spend and the only reason we currently aren’t on a Plan B is because the manager wants them to wait.
I don’t get the logic in this theory at all. What is the point of pushing the blame on the manager they just hired?
Why would they have moved on? By all accounts Frenkie is yet to even make his mind up yet and if he has given suggestions he may be open to the move, of course they are going to pursue the manager's number one target. Also no, offering 80m+ for Frenkie just means we are willing to pay that for Frenkie. Doesn't suggest we are willing to spend money for players we not be as sold on, who would still be required to improve the squad.
That being said, the same opinions are being shared in every post now. Agree to disagree.
Ironically Ruiz would be a much better fit for them.
This saga has reached the point of absurdity. Absolutely no reporting from our Tier 1 journos about what the club is thinking, Spanish reports have become so "post truth" that random people on twitter are contacting journalists to clarify whether something is a "report or a feeling". Tier 1-2 journos increasingly linking Chelsea to FDJ but so much of the reporting is "well Chelsea is the better destination so it kinda just makes sense".
Thank you @golden_blunder for the thread title updates (especially the fun ones), because at this point, whilst the thread is still very fun for the members posting funny content, the actual reporting from journalists has become the equivalent of TV static. I genuinely have no clue how to interpret the tweets posted here anymore because about 5 mins after they are posted, a completely contradictory take is posted. The journalist "meat" of this saga has devolved into a sloppy farce.
Thank you @golden_blunder for the thread title updates (especially the fun ones), because at this point, whilst the thread is still very fun for the members posting funny content, the actual reporting from journalists has become the equivalent of TV static. I genuinely have no clue how to interpret the tweets posted here anymore because about 5 mins after they are posted, a completely contradictory take is posted. The journalist "meat" of this saga has devolved into a sloppy farce.
Stop making twitter handler who spouts shits famous.
This might be cope but aren't Chelsea in for fofana aswell? Doesn't really make sense to throw such huge amount to Barca after that as they've already spent a lot, tuchel's remarks seems to suggest they're not in for him either.
It might be barca trying to force us to move faster but what do I know we might as well get embarrassed by Chelsea, I hope it's the former in which case we'd have all the cards.
It might be barca trying to force us to move faster but what do I know we might as well get embarrassed by Chelsea, I hope it's the former in which case we'd have all the cards.
Was just doing some searching for when we last got a genuine MUFC Tier 1 (as in BBC/Ducker) update on FDJ with new information....it was the bangkok tour game 
Shouldn't you be more concerned about the fact that our Tier 1s haven't dismissed the links if it's true that all the Chelsea links is coming from Barca to push United? We done that a couple of times through Matt Law and Nizaar Kinsella. Not a single one of them has come out to rubbish the links if it were all Barca conjecture.
Also you seem to make a lot of presumptions about Chelsea's priorities because it seems it helps move your narrative along. Our number 1 priority throughout the summer has been CBs because we lost two of them yet went ahead to sign Sterling and want Raphinha. No 1 doesn't mean we don't consider good opportunities when they come around and that was exactly what Tuchel was alluding to. Also we are waiting on De Jong to 1) Make up his mind about leaving Barca 2) show interest in joining Chelsea if so primarily because we've been burned so many times this season jumping in with a bid first without a clear indication of the players desire. We know Fofana wants the move and that is why a bid is in. If we get an indication that De Jong is ready for the move a bid will go in as well. If not then we don't bother. Seems Boehly is at least learning.
Also I don't get where you have the impression that Chelsea is looking for a CF or two from. We are going with the false 9 setup this season and if anything was clear watching our game against Everton, we need more creativity from midfield,esp against lower opposition, than a big lump upfront. The links to Sesko was just that. We have Broja to fill that role.
he is ours muhahaha enjoy the sun now kid you are coming to manchester
Yet Chelsea seem to be doing it the right way by confirming the player wants to come first before agreeing a fee with the club…
I don't even think it's that, I think Barca's just taking advantage of Chelsea being a bit chaotic to put pressure on us.
Im amazed FIFAPro arent all over this
When any owner spends that much, he will want a quick return. Other the other hand, with that many players, integration and cohesion will be an issue for any manager.
I bet Tuchel gets sacked this season. Same scenario as Fat Frank.
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Midfield isn't his
Midfield isn't his
What's there to be all over? He wants to stay at Barca.
Why? Barca didn't break any rules. Yes, they signed a lot of new players and they simply can't register them. They have to clear payroll. It doesn't matter if FDJ leaves or somebody else. If FDJ doesn't leave they still have to pay him his salary plus whatever they owe to new signings. And Barca have until 8/13 to register new players. In 7 days we will have FDJ. Or not.
We should move on to Fabián Ruiz asap instead of waiting too long for Frenkie's transfer and potentially derailing our entire season. Chelsea can wait for him till deadline day as that position is well-covered for them; we don't have that luxury.
This transfer is beyond boring now.
That's definitely why they got Kounde and Raphinha signed up for bigger money
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