Maybe you need to pay a visit to the Museum at OT. Get educated about 'your' club and find out why its unique.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Exactly. And every single one major decision makers involved is gone.
Also, that has nothing to do with FDJs desire to move to United.
Cheer up.
How are Chelsea more stable, they've just had a change of ownership and no-one can know how well it's gonna go. They don't have Roman bankrolling them anymore, allowing them to run on a loss. They are going to have to operate like a normal football club now and we'll see how that goes.
This half-assed unzipping isn't really working for me. At all.
Oh wow. Chelsea fan in disguise?
It's definitely an interesting future. Chelsea unquestionably have a better squad given the heafty summer investment under Frank and I'm sure they'll have money now to further bolster that. In the short term Chelsea look a strong prospect with greater chance for trophies within a 5 year window. For a lot of players this is critical.
This said even the 5 year window can quickly change. Expensive acquisitions like Lukaku flop and the dynamic starts changing. If we have a few better summers the dynamic can quickly change.
Man Utd have the commercial wealth to keep generating investment organically. It's hard for Chelsea to compete to the same degree.
Man Utd do have to keep a mind on the longer future. Liverpool have shown you can be shite for a long period and still not greatly impact their stature, but there is a lot of competition for the young fans coming through now.
This said most dads out there and any decent football fan will not respect those who support City, Newcastle or even Chelsea given the way their wealth has been created. This should have an influence on the current generation of football fans.
But a swing definitely will be happening. Any young fan has to be impressed by City. Great facilities, well organised, best in class approach. Proper footballers signing and not trying to rinse social media like we do. Plenty of kids will choose City, whether they have a strong influence or not.
I just had a light bulb moment....the social media aspect is probably heavily focused on getting the young fans....! Can't be relevant on the pitch so be relevant off it!
No shit.
But by the poster’s comments, you assume he only considers the current state of a club as a reason to sign for one over the other.
Which clearly is bollocks, Barca are a mess, but the majority of players would still pick them every day of the week over PsG.
Where we at with this, are we even more closer to the last closer stage?
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We've probably paused to get the rights to this song so we can drag it out all summer and create more interactions.
Mentioned this song the other day
Thanks, and thanks to all who responded, including those with tongue firmly in cheek.
Happens all the time, Robben, Sneijder, Stam, Beckham, Eto’o, Sanchez…. Etc etc etc.
It’s not the big deal you’re making it out to be. Zlatan never wanted to leave Milan the first time around either. But sometimes clubs needs to sell, and players simply crack on with it.
Do you think all professional footballers just turn into massive cry babies because everything didn’t turn out exactly how they wanted it to?
What a load of utter bollocks, “understands me too well”
what the feck does that even mean?FDJ played his best football under ETH, why would he then consider that after a couple of underwhelming years out of position that the manager who got the best out of him and plays him in his favourite position “understands him too well”?
Lack of one season of CL football meant feck all to Pogba, nor Zlatan, nor Mihki etc when they joined Mourinho’s revolution. They all rightfully trusted they’d be back there the following seasons. We have loads of examples of players joining non current CL clubs, yet the myth lives on.
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What are those factors? Any speculation what the factors are?
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Yeah, agreed. It's just taking a Jong time to complete. Frenkie, it's a matter of time before it's done.
Probably meant to say randy devil and he's off to Chelsea.
Quite a few do... Pogba, Sanchez, Di Maria, and that's just at United!
Oh it does... the whole episode is like a 'rinse and repeat' of former attempts to persuade players who don't really want to move from where they are, to come to United.
I would like to cheer up, but those 'bad vibes' are there in the background
You got it in one!
Declared for Belgium?
You think Pogba and Sanchez were pushed?
Kin ell, they were desperate to get out and unlike Di Maria, delighted to join United.
This is one of those rare instances where a guy in the ‘friend zone’ wears a girl down enough for her to finally marry him.we've worn him down folks!!! He's now vulnerable.....GO GO GO
Got what in one? Make sense man.You got it in one!
Why didn’t he tweet this on the 20th June then? He’s doing a Fab and trying to stay relevant by tweeting a nothing update.
What's the point of tweets like these? Just attention for the sake of attention? I don't get it. Anyone will be able to instantaneously debunk it by going to any one of countless sites where transfers are reported immediately. He clearly hasn't signed yet, so why would somebody try to claim it? At least with the usual transfer muppetry, nobody can really verify what's true and what isn't until after the fact. This is like walking around on a sunny day and telling people it's actually raining.
How reliable is this guy?
Unzipping time?
Shrager the cock block once more.
Just for context, the most interesting thing about Pogmentary was everyone calling us Manchester.
Manchester. Manchester. Manchester.
There's still only one club in Manchester that matters and is recognized across the world that way and it's red. History does matter.
Maybe there will be a small shift once the kids that started watching football the last ten years begin to grow up.
Not one bit
Chelsea just finished 3rd, on the same points we finished the previous season. That’s the highest finish they’ve achieved in the past 5 years, whilst United have finished 2nd twice in that time. We’ve finished higher than Chelsea 3 times in the past five years.
Oh and they’ve just changed owners so aren’t the billionaire play-thing they’ve been since the mid 00’s.
So this isn’t even about history, as for right now, it’s a toss up every season as to who finishes the season highest out of United or Chelsea.
Oh sorry you obviously didn't 'get it' !
There is a good chance that after two years of, shall we say performances less than he's capable of, but of course with the excuse he's out of position (now where have heard that one before)so presumably ETH has to guarantee him his position, or he may go off on a strop... like a few we already have on the books.
Clearly ETH got some good performances out of FJD, at Ajax and will hope to repeat that at OT.... but that was another time, another day, another club.... and two years ago!
If you're of the mindset to consider them related then you should also recognize we have a vastly new team handling transfers and scouting.
I have also not heard a single thing about FDJ not wanting to join United. I have only heard that he didn't want to leave Barca.
He has no choice but to leave Barca. They need him gone. So if that's the case, what should he do? Quit football and become a monk??
C'mon man. Knowing that he has to leave , he can look at United and the manager that made him who he is and get excited. Not to mention I'm sure Louis van Gaal told him he's got a better chance with us now that Woodward is gone.
Forget pessimism. The majority of the fanbase was ignoring the significant negative influence of the former CEO for ages. Buck stops with him. Glazers , sure they get blame. But Woodward is the one that crushed the club most directly.
Eh, there's a lot more to it than league finishes. While I don't have a dog in this debate, Chelsea won the fecking CL last year. It would be beyond insane to claim that United is actually the more tempting destination based on footballing achievements.
What's with the italics?
Probably didn't want his house petrol bombed.
Who knows. Latest buzz is that Chelsea are interested.
Interested if our move breaks down.
Could a transfer turn out bad? Is that your whole point?
Erm, ok, yes it can. Every transfer ever can go either way.
The CL was a fecking anomaly man, surely you realise that? They sacked their fecking manager mid season they were so shite.
They won a CL in similar fashion before also, and only a mad man would’ve claimed that meant more than league finishes.
The facts speak for themselves, the league table rarely lies, and for the past 5 years, it’s an absolute toss up as to who has a better season out of the two clubs. You can be sure that neither will give any title challenge mind.
Any player joining Chelsea based not on title challenge possibilities but because they won a CL out of the blue a couple of seasons back, during a season they finished on 67 points, is a non critical and naive thinker.
In England, the past 5 seasons teach us that City and Liverpool are the clubs to join for title challenges and strong seasons, and that Chelsea and United could end up anywhere, but likely a long way off the top.
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