Because Sport said it. The paper that went through 48 different angles of this transfer in the span of 24 hoursDucker: "MUFC was given the green light from FDJ's camp to keep negotiating the deal"
Stone: "FDJ doesn't want to leave without a deal sorted"
Romano: "I never said he didn't want to join MUFC"
Redcafe: "This is embarrassing, why are we chasing a player that hates MUFC"
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I know as much as you do. It's all speculation which is what a forum is much about.
We all know Sport is now the pinnacle of reporting and trumps every other source thats available.
Not as simple as that though is it? They can’t force him to leave as he is sat on a legally binding contract. He is within his rights to just sit there and be paid his inflated new salary. If Barca want him out they need to reach an acceptable compromise.
They fly out on tour today so I expect some big news
I think this’ll it get done but it’s obvious Barca pushed him out - the callous cnuts. Though I’m not getting Di Maria vibes - we had van gaal whom had no idea how to use him and a bunch of other reasons that aren’t similar to de Jong
Doesn't go on tour - 30 pages of muppet hysteria. Goes on the tour - 100 pages of doomer hysteria
Don't hold your breath. He's still under contract with them, they're also playing hardball over deferred wages, so him going on tour wouldn't mean much. You can expect a proper meltdown in here if he does, though
If de Jong is left behind then i think he'll have to accept that his Barca career is over and that there is likely no way back for him.
From there on, it should be pretty quick.
If he goes, its not the end of the saga, as, you know, private aircraft exist and he can get back quickly.
By all accounts, Barca have told him he's not going on tour with them, so lets see if they stick to that
People's thinking always be a binary system.Ducker: "MUFC was given the green light from FDJ's camp to keep negotiating the deal"
Stone: "FDJ doesn't want to leave without a deal sorted"
Romano: "I never said he didn't want to join MUFC"
Redcafe: "This is embarrassing, why are we chasing a player that hates MUFC"
"FDJ don't want to leave" is not equal to "FDJ refuses/hates to join us".
I don't think we are still chasing him if he don't want to join us after ETH talked with him.
This should be printed out and daily copies sent to the homes of every red cafe user until this is sorted. The issue is that he wants the money that he’s owed. That’s it.Ducker: "MUFC was given the green light from FDJ's camp to keep negotiating the deal"
Stone: "FDJ doesn't want to leave without a deal sorted"
Romano: "I never said he didn't want to join MUFC"
Redcafe: "This is embarrassing, why are we chasing a player that hates MUFC"
Is it confirmed today? I thought it was tomorrow
I'd be really surprised if he went on their tour, the way Barca are behaving, it seems massively unlikely.
Would be so disappointing if this goes all the way to deadline day and when we miss out on him and have no time to secure a 2nd/3rd choice. Hope it doesn't pan out like that!
Same it would be really weird given that if he stays they can't register the other players that would be on that tour, so no chance to work on team shape etc
Someone on the Barca forum has said Frenkie's removed the Barca logo from his Instagram page. I don't know if I recall ever seeing it there?
Transfer sagas make your eyes deceive you!
Transfer sagas make your eyes deceive you!
You are one of the confident ones, so how does he finally get paid that money he is owed
Next summer wishlist: A clean not so long drawn out saga for our marquee signing.
I do think it is a defferent story if Di Maria joins us when Mourinho is in charge after a year.
Club would deserve criticism if that were to happen. There has to be a deadline when we remove the offer and then move on to other midfield targets
It's so on.
Not sure how reliable this site is, but it says they play Chelsea tomorrow, so i'd imagine they're flying out today
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soc...rcelona-chelsea-city/qsoybk2pvz175pnbrbu90x5q
Can't help but feel that with no deadline on this from our side that it will just drag until the very end of the window when we will do what we always do and capitulate.
We do need to give Barca a deadline where we will walk away and they will be stuck with him on wages they can't afford. They have to sell to be able to buy and they are clearly lining up players to buy.
We need to get FdJ or another player in to fill his role. If we leave that position empty and just sit on our hands Barca will know that ultimately we will pay them whatever they want for Frenkie i.e. we will give them money to cover the deferred wages Frenkie is demanding to leave.
This isn't a complicated deal. The issues are known and the solution is simple. Frenkie and Barca have to agree how much they pay him to cancel the contract and leave. I would assume Barca are haggling over 5m or so. If we genuinely walk away they will have made a colossal feck up over 5m which they can't afford to do.
We do need to give Barca a deadline where we will walk away and they will be stuck with him on wages they can't afford. They have to sell to be able to buy and they are clearly lining up players to buy.
We need to get FdJ or another player in to fill his role. If we leave that position empty and just sit on our hands Barca will know that ultimately we will pay them whatever they want for Frenkie i.e. we will give them money to cover the deferred wages Frenkie is demanding to leave.
This isn't a complicated deal. The issues are known and the solution is simple. Frenkie and Barca have to agree how much they pay him to cancel the contract and leave. I would assume Barca are haggling over 5m or so. If we genuinely walk away they will have made a colossal feck up over 5m which they can't afford to do.
That's Chelsea playing Club America, if you look at the opponent column.
Agreed. For the same reason, I don’t think that we should worry abt FDJ turning into ADM. ETH is the manager and I expect FDJ to be one of the standouts in our team.
You would tend to think if there was any chance of him not going on tour that people like Whitwell, Ornstein, Ducker would know
Noon tomorrow according to this.
https://amp.sport.es/en/news/barca/...r-with-him-being-shown-the-exit-door-14082764
If Barca journo's are to have any shred of credibility (outside like 3 of them) and this barca briefing war is true, he shouldn't be on it. But thinking Barca's journos are credible outside 3 of them is asking for trouble.
All i know is if he leaves for the tour, we're going to have to through doomer meltdown Part 5976
Aaaaah i'm sorry Penna! I didn't see that!
Looking forward to Frenkie's 12/10 performance against Barca in CL next year.
Making them lose out on money from the tournament as revenge for not paying what they owe him.
Making them lose out on money from the tournament as revenge for not paying what they owe him.
I'm hoping the deadline is this weekend or next at the latest.
if he doesn't go on tour it strengthens FDJ hand regarding constuctive dismissal I'm guessing. I'm sure his agents are telling him to still turn up to Barcas training facilities and conduct some light training. His number potentially being given away also helps
it feels like there is a logjam of players waiting on him to be gone before they can be registered. Would Barca actually sign these players without the ability to register them? FDJ would then have them over a barrel completely.
Can an unregistered player go on a preseason tour?
it feels like there is a logjam of players waiting on him to be gone before they can be registered. Would Barca actually sign these players without the ability to register them? FDJ would then have them over a barrel completely.
Can an unregistered player go on a preseason tour?
This will be 800+ pages by the end of today.
When is @Penna not right?
It'll be closed by Monday...
Indeed... that is true
positive or a massive meltdown?
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