Some people will never learn...
They just pop in, get annoyed and demand the thread closed. Doesn't stop them coming back for more though does it.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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They just pop in, get annoyed and demand the thread closed. Doesn't stop them coming back for more though does it.
If Barcelona have already agreed a fee with United and need De Jong gone, I’m struggling to think of a reason why they took him on tour.
I’m expecting “player goes on tour with contracted club shocker”
But leaving him home wouldn’t affect the price they got and would have been a big sign that he’s not wanted. And taking him risks injury
I’m expecting “player goes on tour with contracted club shocker”
But leaving him home wouldn’t affect the price they got and would have been a big sign that he’s not wanted. And taking him risks injury
Show me solid definitive proof that he doesn't want to join. Not the reports of him saying he'd rather stay at Barca, but ones where he says "I do not want to join Manchester United".
You won't find anything, because they don't exist. They're shitty stories made up by Sport, nothing more.
The second part of what you've said is what is convincing me that there must be something in this. I can't imagine us sticking with this for so long based on nothing, but I also simultaneously am sceptical with Barcelona, who just seem dodgier and dodgier the more this goes on. They're very quick to buy new players but don't seem to be quick with moving de Jong on. You'd think that they'd be desperate for that transfer fee and even if you subtract the money they owe de Jong from that transfer valuation, they've got money there right on the table that they seemingly aren't in a rush for. I'm convinced that they think they can get de Jong to agree to a huge wage drop, and that's why the deal has stopped.
Haha, no, but it surprised me as I swore he was at least 3 or 4 years younger than that. Matic is 33 and his have legs have fallen off for some time, and I'm aware of the stereotype of players slowing down/age catching up with them once they get to a certain point. Not saying that Fred is going to have a bad season by any means or will turn to shit as he blows out his 30th birthday candles, but it does highlight that we need to have some sort of plan with what's going on with our central midfield area for the long-term.Will Fred dissolve when he hits 30?
True, but he hasn't not got his first choice yet.
It's an ongoing saga.
It's still in the lap of the gods, and we need to trust that ETH knows that he wants to come if/when his finances are sorted
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1k club @Brownie85 
The depay links are concerning but I wouldn't mind having him back if it ensures that we get de jong.
Hopefully our new Dutch clique ain't too disruptive.
Hopefully our new Dutch clique ain't too disruptive.
HopefullyCongrats, @Brownie85! Hopefully you can put 1000 more in before this saga ends.
?Woooo didn't even notice!!1k club @Brownie85
God knows what our tallies will be by the time de Jong signs!
I'm dedicated to the muppet cause. As confident as ever that we shall get our man.Congrats, @Brownie85! Hopefully you can put 1000 more in before this saga ends.
Hopefully not too many more, so we can get this deal wrapped up!
ETH seems to be not that concerned. There's so much contradiction in stories only FDJ and both clubs know what's going on. Let's see
Trevor Lawrence said Urban Meyer was an “inspired leader” … behind the scenes he told his agent and others that he could have destroyed his career.
Pro athletes say “the right thing” publicly all the time. This can’t be an alien concept to you guys.
I think you have to assume that he’s looked at the market and decided that there’s no one else he’d rather have and that he’d be ok going through this season with what we have + promoting youth if can’t get him.
No it's not an alien concept, but it's very unlikely too.
What proof is there to say that de Jong does not like to work with ten Hag? Everything points to the fact they have a fantastic relationship
Thread title changed but nothing else has?
Don't hate McT but as a squad player at best, for me, he moves like a chess piece from Harry Potter and has no sense of danger, which is kind of fundamental for a 'destoyer'
Keep hearing same argument for AWB, people saying he is a good defender because he can slide tackle - absolute nonsense..
We are never getting back to the top with players who don't have more than one redeeming quality. FDJ has a unique skill set, in as far as he keeps the ball and can move us up through the lines - it would be transformative to our game IF he signs.
But there's nothing to suggest that they have a bad relationship though.
They've talked in the midst of this deal so if things were frosty Utd wouldn't be this far into the deal because Ten Hag relies heavily on players he trusts and he wouldn't push for someone he knows dislikes him and will potentially throw him under the bus
1000 posts in this thread?
Don’t you only have 2600 in total?
Which means only 1600 posts outside of here
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Can't help it, got massively engrossed in this transfer. Gone into muppet overdrive! Such is the confidence that this will be done1000 posts in this thread?
Don’t you only have 2600 in total?
Which means only 1600 posts outside of here
Barca are trying to force him out as they know he won’t agree to a wage decrease and they can’t afford him to stay on what he’s on. It breaks their new structure which the entire club is built on, and what these ‘levers’ are potentially based on. Something HAS to give. Either he reduces his wage or he leaves.
Aha!
Come on Barca, force him out already.
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We didn't really strengthen CM which was our Achilles heel last year. Actually the current CM is weaker then last years having lost Matic
The Virgin Barca: NOOO!!! YOU CAN'T JUST STAY HERE AND RUIN OUR NEW WAGE STRUCTURE!!! WE NEED YOU TO LEAVE AND GIVE UP THOSE WAGES WE OWE YOU!!!!
The Chad Frenkie:
They’ll never learn.
Why is this news?
Barceleva? Nope?! I’ll get my coat…..
They did just sign Robert Leverdowski..Barceleva? Nope?! I’ll get my coat…..
Not true! I care a great deal and excitedly await his arrival.
Here here!
At the moment it seems pretty certain that Barcelona are going to sell some more rights and just pay him. Makes sense for him also to move when he’s being paid more than he is right now if he does decide to move next summer.
Bob lemonade?
On Aug 1, Barca have to submit their financials to La Liga. Are they in the clear? Do they desperately need to sell FdJ?
If Barca are in the clear, then what do United fans expect to change within the next 30 days? Why will Barca agree to pay FdJ's backlog after 25 days (for example) but not now?
If Barca are in the clear, then what do United fans expect to change within the next 30 days? Why will Barca agree to pay FdJ's backlog after 25 days (for example) but not now?
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