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Incorrectly predicted the de Jong transfer 2022
Wish we'd signed him under OGS so that we could've seen the "Frenkie goes to Ole-Wood" headline
he’s not a DM but he operates in the double pivot and he’s a controller typeDe jong isn’t a number 6 though is he? Isn’t he more box to box… be a lot of money to spend on the wrong type of midfielder, can he control games? It would be decent if we signed him but then got Kamara on a free.
Very different player to Cesc.Like Cesc?
i didn’t believe it, didn’t believe Di Maria eitherHalf the Caf didn’t believe Varane would come either but he plays for us now. This in the same sense has too much smoke going on too
I thought about this too.he’s not a DM but he operates in the double pivot and he’s a controller type
i think he’s exactly what we need but we need a specialist DM as well, fo sho
Some players won't come to United because we're not in the CL next season. It's a lot harder now to break into the top 4 as well. I can't see any player we'd be interested in choosing to go to Newcastle because they might be challenging for top 4 in 3 or 4 years time. As for 23/24 that seems ridiculously ambitious to me.I don't think them not being willing to spend the money on Lingard is indicative of them not being ambitious/willing to push the boat out, more that they're being sensible and realizing his true worth - something we've failed at for the last few seasons.
Obviously there are loads of arguments as to why Utd are more compelling, and I of course think they are too. But if I was a player basing my decision on where I should go, where Newcastle come up trumps - who has more ambitious owners? and who has more money to willingly spend/invest in the project?
ETH is going to need a while to impose his style on the team and should be given time to transition the club, but that does mean top 4 is by no means a certainty next season, and by the time 23/24 comes around who knows where Newcastle will be in regards to their project. As a reference point, City were challenging top 4 in their second season under their current owners, and cracked it in their third.
And if we didn’t we’d still need a playmaker. We need more than one starting midfielder. De Jong is the best of one of the types we need that we can get. Let’s deal with the DM afterwards.I thought about this too.
If we do get him we would still need a DM.
we always needed two midfielders anyway, no matter who we buyI thought about this too.
If we do get him we would still need a DM.
That's what people don't get. This whole sentiment that breaking up play is all we need is wrong. The passing and playmaking ability in our midfield, or entire team, is piss poor.And if we didn’t we’d still need a playmaker. We need more than one starting midfielder. De Jong is the best of one of the types we need that we can get. Let’s deal with the DM afterwards.
I agree. Fred and McT may drop down even further with Garner coming back.we always needed two midfielders anyway, no matter who we buy
none of our mids are good enough for Ten Hag, in my opinion
but they could be useful backups
Given that Ajax played Burnley pre-season a few years ago, when we play them they could ask “Frenkie…do you remember Mee?”Wish we'd signed him under OGS so that we could've seen the "Frenkie goes to Ole-Wood" headline
I was thinking David Moyes.Very different player to Cesc.
Sounds like the right fee given how highly rated he isn't but isn't absolutely untouchable for them either?Tweet
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Barca would reportedly accept 60m for him this summer
what tweets?having read the more recent tweets, its already over isnt it, this muppet train has derailed. oh well, weve had a whole summer of it, in just 24 hours.
Bissouma, however good, got a similar case pending like Mason Greenwood. I think we got enough with one case at the time.Tchouameni was my most wanted but I’d be happy with De Jong + Bissouma/another
Like his fellow countryman he’ll wear the number of the PL title he’ll win us
To be fair, he won’t be going anywhere that doesn’t match his Barca deal, so whoever takes him if he’s truly available will be paying him a lot. The kind of money 99% of clubs, Liverpool included, cannot afford.I don't think we can persuade him to ignore CL clubs and choose us without us handing him a massive deal, I'd hoped we'd moved on from doing that.
Like his fellow countryman he’ll wear the number of the PL title he’ll win us
Well I'll be playing my instrument when he signsWhat number is he going to wear? What instrument does he play?
I agree. Only our offer would have to be north of any deal from Liverpool, City ect...To be fair, he won’t be going anywhere that doesn’t match his Barca deal, so whoever takes him if he’s truly available will be paying him a lot. The kind of money 99% of clubs, Liverpool included, cannot afford.
ESPN are chancers mate
I didn't say about anything special between ten Hag and De Jong. I merely refute your claim that IF de Jong move to United, it will be hard for him because he does not have someone to rely on. I pointed out that he actually would have, as we have his former manager who he played quite well under. I didn't say that he will move here because of ten Hag. But IF he does move, then there's a good chance that it will work outIt seems that you implying theres a special bond between ETH and FDJ, do i missed something because i've never heard news regarding their special relationship during and after ajax? And players will have many other things aside of relationship with former manager to consider when choosing their next club: the prestige of the club, the prospects of winning titles, reputation, country or city where the club is located, including inputs from their family. the prospect of re-uniting with former manager isnt going to cut in if the club lack of those, especially when other better organized clubs are knocking on your door.
People don't seem to grasp that both dm and cm are needs this summer.And if we didn’t we’d still need a playmaker. We need more than one starting midfielder. De Jong is the best of one of the types we need that we can get. Let’s deal with the DM afterwards.
Yeah, hopefully you're right - although with the top 5 potentially getting CL football in the next couple of seasons, it could be a bit easier for Newcastle to challenge sooner. They're probably going to end up on a similar number of points this season to City in their first under their current owners (City 50, Newcastle currently 43), and that's with Newcastle only having one window of activity. I think Newcastle will be serious contenders for the top 5 in the next 2 season, and although we're coming at it from different ends of the table, we're going to start dealing with them as competition on and off the pitch sooner rather than later.Some players won't come to United because we're not in the CL next season. It's a lot harder now to break into the top 4 as well. I can't see any player we'd be interested in choosing to go to Newcastle because they might be challenging for top 4 in 3 or 4 years time. As for 23/24 that seems ridiculously ambitious to me.
DM is a bigger priority IMO because as the CM we have Fred who is a decent player, while for DM we have nobody. But yeah we need both, just think CM (Fred replacement) is much lower in the pecking order (DM, ST, RB, RW and then CM for me).we always needed two midfielders anyway, no matter who we buy
none of our mids are good enough for Ten Hag, in my opinion
but they could be useful backups
ESPN on their own, yes. Sam Marsden, Moisés Llorens, and Rob Dawson, however, are three of their most reliable journalists for football, especially the first two.ESPN are chancers mate
they know less than John Snow
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