Maybe we want to avoid embarrassment for a 3rd time?
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Yeah this weird **** shit and the girlfriend anologies need to get to feck. I don't know who hurt these people but it's a potential transfer of a football player between football clubs. Let's not make it weird
Now now. Let's not vanhaalsredarmy anyone here
I call those people psychopaths!
You tell him bro!
Yes please!
Tuchel is the village slut isnt he?
Ban the fecker!
Cho cho my friend
Would be a strange career move, really is a toss up as to which club will do better this season and in the coming years. Surely after his Barca experience, reuniting with his old boss is the best and smartest career move.
To throw that away to live in London for maybe 4 years is madness, if that alone was the reason rather than an affection for Chelsea FC.
I’ve lived in Hong Kong, N. Ireland, Cheshire, France, Norway, NZ, Aus, Norway, Sweden… every place has it’s charm and it’s nice to switch it about. And that’s as a middle class person.
As multi millionaires, he and his missus will live in luxury wherever they are, can go on any holiday they like, and then they have an entire life after he turns 30 to find a place to settle, or have multiple homes for Summer and Winter.
Yeah it’s uncomfortable isn’t it
Also, if this whole "United are desperate for him" thing is true, doesn't that just confirm what we've said for the past few days? It's clear Barca are pushing this Chelsea news, if Chelsea themselves were, their journos would have made a bigger fuss of it.
If United are getting desperate, they're starting to panic which means this whole thing is having the effect that Barca wanted. They wanted us to panic, in doing so well come to an arrangement to pay off the wages, meaning Barca save money and get a nice fee too.
That's my feeling, but things seem to be happening exactly as we've thought they would for the last few days. I'd say this was Barcas plan from the beginning but that's just my opinion
If United are getting desperate, they're starting to panic which means this whole thing is having the effect that Barca wanted. They wanted us to panic, in doing so well come to an arrangement to pay off the wages, meaning Barca save money and get a nice fee too.
That's my feeling, but things seem to be happening exactly as we've thought they would for the last few days. I'd say this was Barcas plan from the beginning but that's just my opinion
Remember when we signed Malacia in 2-3 days? those were the times huh!?
I'm not wumming here, and I've never used the word **** or cucked, but why does it bother you so much?
Malacia wanted to joinRemember when we signed Malacia in 2-3 days? those were the times huh!?
Haha they were the days... but admittedly it was a much easier transfer to doRemember when we signed Malacia in 2-3 days? those were the times huh!?
Guys, I've got it. I've finally figured out this saga.
All of our signings this summer have been gazzumps, right? We gazzumped Lyon for Malacia, we gazzumped Brentford (and possibly Spurs) for Eriksen, and we gazzumped Arsenal for Martinez. But if we're the only team in for De Jong, how could we gazzump anyone? That is where Chelsea come in.
I put it to you, ladies and gentlemen, that the real reason this saga has taken so long is simply that Murtough has been waiting for another side to make a play for De Jong to keep up his 100% gazzump track record on new signings.
All of our signings this summer have been gazzumps, right? We gazzumped Lyon for Malacia, we gazzumped Brentford (and possibly Spurs) for Eriksen, and we gazzumped Arsenal for Martinez. But if we're the only team in for De Jong, how could we gazzump anyone? That is where Chelsea come in.
I put it to you, ladies and gentlemen, that the real reason this saga has taken so long is simply that Murtough has been waiting for another side to make a play for De Jong to keep up his 100% gazzump track record on new signings.
One of the other things I would imagine is that if people on a message board think they can divine where all this transfer information originates from, then surely teams, which have a whole host of contacts in the business, would more than likely know where information originates from.
It's all so clear now!
Stranger things have happened haha
Of course they can. That's likely why United are so calm about it all. They know what's going on and the sorts and are happy to ride it out. I refuse to believe that Ten Hag wouldn't have been in contact with de Jong or his agent to get some info about this Chelsea stuff, and you'd like to think they'd respect ten Hag enough to be honest with him, seeing as we've waited for months for this to sort its self
By Jove you've only gone and bloody nailed it.
All this worry and turns out it's just Murtough making it clear he's the finest gazumper in town. I'll sleep well tonight. Cheers!
I disagree, we haven't signed anyone called Gaz Zumps. Is he the alleged backup option to FDJ?
I'd have tracked them all down in a fit of rage, put 30 bullets in them and kicked crap out of their corpses. Then left.
Then went back and put another one in and said "oh yeah, and that's for my family"
If that's the case then why do Barcelona think them leaking to journos that Chelsea are going to hijack a deal would make Utd do anything? That'd make them look even more daft. Utd have already briefed regarding Barca saying one thing in negotiations and another to the press.
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I call BS on that. How were even this United board going to agree to that when ETH was announced back on (what was it?) April ??
Let’s hope he told Frenkie that and got the agreement we suspect
Otherwise he may as well have walked in and demanded Messi and De Bryune.
Sure it exists as elsewhere. Nevertheless is not as big an issue as jn Anglofone world.
Because, in my opinion, their thought is that we'll panic and end up paying the deferred wages to secure him before Chelsea can. It's clear Barca don't want to pay it and they'll avoid doing so if they can. Even if de jongs agent denies the interest, it could still linger in Uniteds mind that they're not being truthful. Just takes a few seeds of doubt to grow really.
Of course it could be that Chelsea really are interested and are very confident, but the fact the noise over here from all their T1 journos has been pretty meh at best tells me it's coming from Barca
Now, this I do not believe. "I'll only take the job if you get this player who, for all we know, is really happy at his club and his club probably don't want to let him go" (who honestly saw them wanting to move Frenkie on before this all kicked off?).
Nah sorry I call utter BS on that. United wouldn't be stupid enough to put themselves in that situation when they have no idea if de Jong was even available
Well he should have been able to persuade FDJ to sign then, shouldn't he ?
Or, his agent is leaking this because he’s getting nervous that Barça aren’t going to blink with regards to the exist negotiations.
This way he’s playing both sides to ensure he gets his client the 17m, through Barca or United or both, and of course his own big agents fee.
Thankfully there's virtually no racism in our country - South Africa
Anyway I'm glad my advice to take a break from this thread and watch John Wick has worked - all peace and love now
Says the person who had a revelation with 2G1C this past week? Perfect euphemism for the c-word I'd say.
That would be the quickest and best solution, but even then, you would have a plan B in mind. Either someone at the club that can be trained to a degree to perform a similar role or someone bought and trained. Granted, Frenkie is a special and unique player, but still, not great planning all around.
Sounds like Erik has Frenkie Fever.
SighSays the person who had a revelation with 2G1C this past week? Perfect euphemism for the c-word I'd say.
Never thought of it like that to be honest. Barca are likely going to play hardball and if he wants the money it'll be on their terms, how they want to structure it etc.
I truly don't believe Chelseas interest is as concrete as the Spanish sources will have us believe. Even Ornstein hasn't even updated his original article where he said the Two clubs are in talks only. Seems people have latched on to that and ran with it and Barca are fuelling the fire. Clever though if it does work out for them
Really feels like the club are briefing to place the blame on Ten Hag for this transfer potentially collapsing. They can go feck themselves if they think we'll turn on him before those clowns Murtough and Arnold who've made a mess of this window.
I should of been clearer, my conspiracy comment was in regards to the idea Barca using Chelsea to pressure United which I don't think is plausible. We aren't at a negotiation stage, the fee is agreed and I think both sides would agree it's a fair deal, there is no squeezing for more.
Also, after the drama between Chelsea and Barca this summer in the transfer window they hate us, I think they'd call us out if we were using them, they certainly won't do us any favors as seen with Azpi. It makes no sense to me that Barca, although we are crazy this summer, would risk a deal with United - a huge club that Laporta said he respects - and have a player staying on wages that mean we can't register new signings.
It's more realistic to believe his agent is linking him to CL clubs via the media.
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