He may have told Lingard and Jones that they are not in his plans.How can you sell players when manager says for every player that he has future in club and will be very useful? It us not a dig to Ole, this is his way and he has good mood around squad because of it but if he says to Lingard or Jones "you are not in my plans at all" then they (and their agents) would try hard to find a club.
Managers won't say the same thing to players that they say to press. Ole said Sanchez and Lukaku will be part of the team and both of them were sold/loaned out in the same window.How can you sell players when manager says for every player that he has future in club and will be very useful? It us not a dig to Ole, this is his way and he has good mood around squad because of it but if he says to Lingard or Jones "you are not in my plans at all" then they (and their agents) would try hard to find a club.
How do you know what he's told them?How can you sell players when manager says for every player that he has future in club and will be very useful? It us not a dig to Ole, this is his way and he has good mood around squad because of it but if he says to Lingard or Jones "you are not in my plans at all" then they (and their agents) would try hard to find a club.
He may have told Lingard and Jones that they are not in his plans.
I don't know but in public Ole sounds very positive about them. Nevertheless, to leave United (and chance for getting another big contract) you need kick in the ass.Managers won't say the same thing to players that they say to press. Ole said Sanchez and Lukaku will be part of the team and both of them were sold/loaned out in the same window.
How will that help club/players? What happens in the dressing room should stay there, players should be respected too. Just because we don't need them doesn't mean we have to tell the whole world. Just informing the player and his agent is more than enough.I don't know but in public Ole sounds very positive about them. Nevertheless, to leave United (and chance for getting another big contract) you need kick in the ass.
I must admit that i liked Sarri's approach in Chelsea. From the start he said on what players he doesn't count.
Sarri’s players were refusing to leave the field to be substituted. He lost the dressing room completely.I don't know but in public Ole sounds very positive about them. Nevertheless, to leave United (and chance for getting another big contract) you need kick in the ass.
I must admit that i liked Sarri's approach in Chelsea. From the start he said on what players he doesn't count.
You are talking about what Ole maybe said to them. I am talking what he actually said.How will that help club/players? What happens in the dressing room should stay there, players should be respected too. Just because we don't need them doesn't mean we have to tell the whole world. Just informing the player and his agent is more than enough.
Ole saying "Lindard is not in my plans" won't make West Ham pay 25 million.
I was thinking yesterday that we have a lack of experience in selling players. The club needs to get better at it and also deciding when it’s time to offload the wages. For the dressing room and get fresh mentalities in there that will bring more energy into the dressing room.How can you sell players when manager says for every player that he has future in club and will be very useful? It is not a dig to Ole, this is his way and he has good mood around squad because of it but if he says to Lingard or Jones "you are not in my plans at all" then they (and their agents) would try hard to find a club.
It's quite clear to see Lingard won't ever be a regular starter for this United side with the options we've got now. If he wants first-team football, he'll need to look for it elsewhere. But it has never been Ole's style to kick anyone out the door, and certainly not in the media.I don't know but in public Ole sounds very positive about them. Nevertheless, to leave United (and chance for getting another big contract) you need kick in the ass.
I must admit that i liked Sarri's approach in Chelsea. From the start he said on what players he doesn't count.
So lets sell our best cm to buy another?so even trying to sign Saul on loan we still need to move some players on in order to raise funds to make this move??
The best thing that could happen for United would be PSG selling Mbappe to Madrid and PSG wanting to sign Pogba. This would allow us to sell him, bring in a CM to help us and it would balance out the squad.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-...for-eduardo-camavingasaul-niguez-bids-sources
he's not our best CM...hell he doesn't even play CM for usSo lets sell our best cm to buy another?
Our 2nd best player then?he's not our best CM...hell he doesn't even play CM for us
He looks set to leave on a free next summer so cashing in now isn't the worst idea.Our 2nd best player then?
again the issue is he doesn't play CM for us as our personnel doesn't suit him and make up for his lack of defensive responsibilities. Instead, we push him to the left which unbalances the starting XI when he's on the pitch. He tends to lose his tactical shape and it opens us up.Our 2nd best player then?
Well they ain’t signing Kane but while Sancho and Varane are great signings, I think we can all agree we could do with 1 or 2 more to properly mount a title challenge.Ole said he doubts we will sign anyone else
So much about us being anywhere near Citeh, especially if they sign Kane
Except Sarri was an utter failure and burned bridges. Last thing you want if we can’t sell Lingard is for us to need him due to injury crisis and him not give a shit any more. Also it’s terrible negotiation tactics to just tell clubs outright which players you don’t wantI don't know but in public Ole sounds very positive about them. Nevertheless, to leave United (and chance for getting another big contract) you need kick in the ass.
I must admit that i liked Sarri's approach in Chelsea. From the start he said on what players he doesn't count.
How is losing one of the best AM in the world the best thing? Especially with Rashford injured for the foreseeable future that would be disastrous for us.so even trying to sign Saul on loan we still need to move some players on in order to raise funds to make this move??
The best thing that could happen for United would be PSG selling Mbappe to Madrid and PSG wanting to sign Pogba. This would allow us to sell him, bring in a CM to help us and it would balance out the squad.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-...for-eduardo-camavingasaul-niguez-bids-sources
James is not deadwood.We could have sold Lingard and James. We didn't. We seem to love keeping deadwood.
Yes he is. He's a mid table level player at bestJames is not deadwood.
because he isn't one of the best AM in the world and he puts in a decent performance about 1 in 5 matches.....amazing how blind some of you guys get with Pogba when has puts in a good performanceHow is losing one of the best AM in the world the best thing? Especially with Rashford injured for the foreseeable future that would be disastrous for us.
No he isn't. That's about the level you should have as a 4th or so option.Yes he is. He's a mid table level player at best
Except that he is much more consistent then that when played in the AM rather then the double pivot.because he isn't one of the best AM in the world and he puts in a decent performance about 1 in 5 matches.....amazing how blind some of you guys get with Pogba when has puts in a good performance
We need a midfielder so the best thing would be selling our best midfielder?so even trying to sign Saul on loan we still need to move some players on in order to raise funds to make this move??
The best thing that could happen for United would be PSG selling Mbappe to Madrid and PSG wanting to sign Pogba. This would allow us to sell him, bring in a CM to help us and it would balance out the squad.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-...for-eduardo-camavingasaul-niguez-bids-sources
They obviously aren't.Lingard, James and Martial are all surplus to requirements and could have easily funded the move for a quality CM.
Why are we such a slow moving club when it comes to transfers? The sheer amount of players the likes of City and Chelsea manage to move, both in and out each summer, make us look like amateurs.
Granted, Varane and Sancho have been terrific signings, but if we don't back it up by addressing the real problem area, it all seems a bit deflating doesn't it?
Yeah very deflating feel indeedLingard, James and Martial are all surplus to requirements and could have easily funded the move for a quality CM.
Why are we such a slow moving club when it comes to transfers? The sheer amount of players the likes of City and Chelsea manage to move, both in and out each summer, make us look like amateurs.
Granted, Varane and Sancho have been terrific signings, but if we don't back it up by addressing the real problem area, it all seems a bit deflating doesn't it?
Why is it obvious?They obviously aren't.
Yeah should have sold all 3 then brought in Trippier and top CM but like you say we will get the rhetoric about keeping playersWhy is it obvious?
Lingard was on loan last season, Martial injured for large parts and James was for the most part sat on the bench.
When it comes to crunch time, these guys offer nothing to the team. I'd swap these 3 in a heartbeat for a top CM who actually contributes. Instead, we'll have some rhetoric about squad depth and the need to keep players, not a selling club etc.
Martial and Lingard would have been sat on the bench right along with the rest of those coming into ET against Villareal last season. It's bizarre, and no matter what Ole says, he still doesn't trust the fringe players to deliver.
The squad is already bloated as it is, we could easily sell Lingard and Martial, and still have Greenwood, Cavani, Pogba, Rashford, Sancho and Bruno in those attacking positions. What have we actually lost in terms of numbers and impact?
Last year panic buys (don't count Edi as free) have ultimately cost us a quality DM this yearAre we just pretending that the Sancho money wasn't last years money?
This is classic Glazernomics, as soon as the team look like they will comfortably finish top 4, the spending stops.
We've essentially bought a player Woodward has lusted after since day 1 in the job (for a bargain fee too) and last years signing this year and now supposedly need to sell to buy. It's fecking outrageous.
Because of the fact that there has been no rumours about Martial and James leaving. In fact the news has been about us wanting to keep them. The only players who we seemed to be willing to let go are Lingard, Pereira and Dalot.Why is it obvious?
Lingard was on loan last season, Martial injured for large parts and James was for the most part sat on the bench.
When it comes to crunch time, these guys offer nothing to the team. I'd swap these 3 in a heartbeat for a top CM who actually contributes. Instead, we'll have some rhetoric about squad depth and the need to keep players, not a selling club etc.
Martial and Lingard would have been sat on the bench right along with the rest of those coming into ET against Villareal last season. It's bizarre, and no matter what Ole says, he still doesn't trust the fringe players to deliver.
The squad is already bloated as it is, we could easily sell Lingard and Martial, and still have Greenwood, Cavani, Pogba, Rashford, Sancho and Bruno in those attacking positions. What have we actually lost in terms of numbers and impact?
