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don't jinx the boyOh, hang on... the new Kieron Richardson?
don't jinx the boyOh, hang on... the new Kieron Richardson?
SAF must not have that much confidence in Nani finally breaking through - all these wingers/attacking mids we've been signingI posted this in the Transfer Forum thread, but I guess it's more relevant here:
My mate says he's watched him frequently and thinks he's well average, mind you he said this in the capacity that Oberton was labelled 'the new Henry'.
I've never watched him myself, but he must be highly rated to have been signed by United. Has anyone on here watched him regularly, and if so, what're your thoughts? I'm looking your way Kouroux.
Also, what does this mean for the likes of Nani, Tosic and that other guy (Llajic?)? Assuming Valencia was signed as a XI player, would this mean Nani would move to the other flank with Tosic and this Oberton given time to develop? Or is he due for a more active first team role in the side?
I'm thinking Nani and Valencia will be thinking that next season is their time and they'll be used the most, with Park rotating in. Tosic and Obertan used as a sub.I posted this in the Transfer Forum thread, but I guess it's more relevant here:
My mate says he's watched him frequently and thinks he's well average, mind you he said this in the capacity that Oberton was labelled 'the new Henry'.
I've never watched him myself, but he must be highly rated to have been signed by United. Has anyone on here watched him regularly, and if so, what're your thoughts? I'm looking your way Kouroux.
Also, what does this mean for the likes of Nani, Tosic and that other guy (Llajic?)? Assuming Valencia was signed as a XI player, would this mean Nani would move to the other flank with Tosic and this Oberton given time to develop? Or is he due for a more active first team role in the side?
Tosic and Llajic are still far away from the first team, as our most of our promising youngsters such as Petrucci, James etc. IMO only Welbeck and Macheda will get games in the first team from the youth team playersI posted this in the Transfer Forum thread, but I guess it's more relevant here:
My mate says he's watched him frequently and thinks he's well average, mind you he said this in the capacity that Oberton was labelled 'the new Henry'.
I've never watched him myself, but he must be highly rated to have been signed by United. Has anyone on here watched him regularly, and if so, what're your thoughts? I'm looking your way Kouroux.
Also, what does this mean for the likes of Nani, Tosic and that other guy (Llajic?)? Assuming Valencia was signed as a XI player, would this mean Nani would move to the other flank with Tosic and this Oberton given time to develop? Or is he due for a more active first team role in the side?
No.I'm glad to see Fergie is still focused on the future rather than trying to buy for the short term before he retires. I hope he does well and like that we've bought another big quick winger.
Isn't Llajic a central midfielder?
Woops, I totally forgot about Park. You guys have a decent set of wingers you can rotate through - Park, Valencia and Nani all being First Teamers, with Obertan and Ljajic and Tosic being given time to ease into it and develop.I'm thinking Nani and Valencia will be thinking that next season is their time and they'll be used the most, with Park rotating in. Tosic and Obertan used as a sub.
Then when Ljajic comes in Jan, he too to be eased in as a sub. But in 2 years time if Ljajic and Obertan fully realise their potential they could be the ones starting and the others filling in for them. Nani and Valencia are older and more experienced and are in the immediate future better players, but thats not to say the same will be the case after Ljajic and Obertan have settled in properly.
makes sense to meI think it's time we started a new forum specifically for discussing which forums other threads should be in. And then banned such talk outside of that forum.
I agree we have the depth and numbers. The question is whether Valencia and Nani can step it up and be as good as anything our rivals can put on the wings... We'll have to see. We know thats just not the case for Park, bless him. And we can always count on him for big games.Woops, I totally forgot about Park. You guys have a decent set of wingers you can rotate through - Park, Valencia and Nani all being First Teamers, with Obertan and Ljajic and Tosic being given time to ease into it and develop.
Nani will be given at least another year to prove himself. SAF himself stated it.I think that Nani's mentality has cost him his United career. He definitely has the skills and potential, but fergie isn't an admirer of bad attitude.
Where, when?Nani will be given at least another year to prove himself. SAF himself stated it.
Pretty good effort, although he scores about as often as Park. So might be best to change it to "makes a goal"To the tune of Spiderman:
Obertan, Obertan
Scores a goal whenever he can
He's got a kidney for a head
We don't care now he's a red
Look out here comes the Obertan
Nani will become our first coice winger next seasonI think that Nani's mentality has cost him his United career. He definitely has the skills and potential, but fergie isn't an admirer of bad attitude.
I truly hope so, last season saw Park higher in the pecking order.Nani will become our first coice winger next season
It was in the official site a month or two ago.Where, when?
Largely due to the need for defensive stability in midfield which was needed because of Ronaldo, although Park was in terrific form during the middle of the season. But now that Ronaldo's gone, the need for a defensive player out wide lessens particularly as Valencia is a grafter.I truly hope so, last season saw Park higher in the pecking order.
I know, was going to go for 'does whatever Ronaldo can' - which would be funny but in the wrong way.Pretty good effort, although he scores about as often as Park. So might be best to change it to "makes a goal"
To the tune of Spiderman:
Obertan, Obertan
Scores a goal whenever he can
He's got a kidney for a head
We don't care now he's a red
Look out here comes the Obertan
I thank you.
Winner.
I think that the 'older brother' was damaging his career rather then help it out. You cant have 2 prima donnas in 1 team.I guess Nani will up his game and mature when he can't rely on older brother.
Fine - discuss the player then, don't just duplicate what you posted in the transfer forum. This forum is for good threads.the transfer forum is there to discuss transfer rumours. Once a player becomes a Manchester United player then he should be discussed in here.
I only duplicated 1 post ie the one from the Manchester United site regarding us signing the player. If a player signs with us then he deserves to be discussed in the Manchester United forum like any other player.Fine - discuss the player then, don't just duplicate what you posted in the transfer forum. This forum is for good threads.
Anyway, this thread has got a life now, thanks to other posters.
Choon!In the under 21 game, Obertan wore the number 7
Not sure how to enbed so will: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViEeHYTfXYY
the pace he shows for that first burst is incredible really. He's got great balance - he runs with a straight back it seems
With him being versetile, it gives us a lot of options. Hopefully people will be paitent with him
3m today, 250m in 6 years time when Real come knocking. Standard procedure.Rubbish. Sell him.
in fairness who do you trust more? him or Sir Alex?A colleague of mine who follows French football pretty closely and is not a "muppet" told me Obertan, in his opinion, is a bit shit.
Hopefully he is proven wrong and I can change my opinion about my colleague not being a "muppet".
You can afford a winger who scores and sets up about 5 goals a season when you have Ronaldo on the opposite flank.I truly hope so, last season saw Park higher in the pecking order.