I thought so too. This place is getting worse by the day.
I think people forget Neville is working for Sky not MUTV. I'd much rather listen to him with a balanced view rather than just praise everything we do.
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I think people forget Neville is working for Sky not MUTV. I'd much rather listen to him with a balanced view rather than just praise everything we do.
Agreed. Feels like a few people would just have constantly praise everything we're doing!
And even if he is a bit unbalanced.... who cares?!
I mean the clue is in the word, being mauled means being manhandled, foul..... but little G can’t do the right thing. Carragher can spit on a united fan and not worry, little Gary is too scared to say what’s right when united are involved. It’s a foul all day long, how many times do forwards go down when jumping for a keepers kick and the CB has hardly touched him? That is a foul in any century of the game
It is embarrassingly needy, Paddy Crerand would probably be too impartial for some on here as well.
No way Paddy is just so biased he’s worth the comedy value
He is shit scared of being accused of being Utd biased. An opposing player could scythe through one of our players legs and have it dangling off their pelvis, and our Gary would say it was a soft foul and the Utd player went down a little easy.
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Think he's bang on.
I can't believe he thinks Lindelof is good. A guy that played alongside some of our best ever centre backs.
We don't concede many goals because Lindelof and Maguire get done for pace in open play. We concede a lot of goals because Lindelof is weak in the challenge, particularly in the air.
Only Lindelof huh ?
I know you're only being sarcastic, but there are idiots out there who actually believe this.Wow Neville being pro english yet again
He was very complimentary of Victor but rather honest that having spent £80mil on Maguire he’s going nowhere - I’d quite like to hear what he actually thinks of Harry. . .
He is but its nothing new. They don't compliment eachother but both work well with a fit Baily.
We need to find a player with similar attributes to Baily but one who fundamentally stays fit.
Unfortunately he tries so hard to not be pro-Utd that he ends up being anti-Utd far too often. He overcompensates. And that then sets the trend because if even a commentator you would think is pro-Utd is saying it then it must be true.
I agree on the 50/50 calls he tends to side with the opposition most of the time. I feel Carragher is the same when Liverpool are playing. I think they both see those 50/50 calls as an opportunity to show they are fair and unbiased during their commentary stints. It's worked well for them since fans of rivals clubs both praise them in the comments on the YouTube videos (I've seen United fans praising Carragher, and Liverpool fans praising Neville the pundit).
Neville isn't doing it because he "WAS a red", as the provocative threat title currently says... and successfully baited me in.
To be fair, he calls Maguire slow and struggling in one on one defense or when ball is played behind him. He does say Maguire is an 80M asset. So for that reason, it is Lindelof who will have to take the blow. If Lindelof was paired with someone like Van Djik, he would be very good. Because he is very intelligent and makes good passes.Wow Neville being pro english yet again
That is a far cry than the majority here who are absolutely convinced Lindelof is an idiot, while Maguire is so good.
PS: Unless of course you are being sarcastic.
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He has correctly reinstated the point you've made in bold throughout the months. I don't keenly listen to Gary's commentary but his post / pre match comments are usually spot on. I've no idea the hate he gets some of the messages he's given about the direction of this team and where Ole stands, some of the more 'Ole or nothing' fans need to hear.
The problem with Lindelof is Lindelof and the problem with Maguire is Maguire. The former is slow, he's shit in air, he's got little positioning, no leadership and quite frankly he's not a good CB. Maguire is good in air but he's shit on everything else I've mentioned before. I can't believe we spent 110m on the pair. They make Ronnie Johnsen (not Stam, not Rio, not Vidic) look like Baresi on steroids.
Once Gaz mentioned Van Dijk and Rio as the level of CBs that need to be played alongside Maguire/Lindelof then he lost his argument. FFS even Jones would look better alongside one of those players. If we signed prime Rio or Van Dijk then they will be covering for rather then complimenting Maguire/Lindelof. Players should compliment one another rather then carrying them.
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Lindeloff and Bailly doesn't work! We've seen this. Both poor in the air.
I would agree with this. Maguire's lack of pace is constantly highlighted but it this actually a significant contributor to the goals we concede?
I would say far more of our goals are conceded as a result of De Gea and Lindelof being uncertain when high balls come into the box. Let's face it, this is the only way most of the bottom half are going to score a goal and we get done time and time again.
Just going back to the Gary Neville criticism...he mentions the CBs don't push up....how can they when De Gea sticks to his line like a table football GK! If they start pushing up that means De Gea has to be much more aggressive with his starting position and I can't see that happening
This is the full quote regarding the Maguire/Lindelof pairing and I think it's an excellent point from the best pundit on the telly. Many of those attacking him also have a go at other pundits for being to biased towards their former teams. Not sure how you can have it both ways. Of course, I disagree with Gary sometimes (it was a foul on Victor every day of the week), but would I sit and listen to him or would I prefer Souness, Hoddle and Richards... no contest
"Lindelof's problem is Maguire and Maguire's problem is Lindelof. I think if you put Lindelof alongside Van Dijk at Liverpool, I think he's a really good player. He understands the game, he reads the game, he's a good defender. If he was alongside a Ferdinand or a Van Dijk, I think he'd make a great pair. The problem is he alongside somebody who's not the most mobile in Harry Maguire.
"The problem Lindelof has got is they've invested £80m on Maguire so they're going to have to put someone alongside him"
"Lindelof's problem is Maguire and Maguire's problem is Lindelof. I think if you put Lindelof alongside Van Dijk at Liverpool, I think he's a really good player. He understands the game, he reads the game, he's a good defender. If he was alongside a Ferdinand or a Van Dijk, I think he'd make a great pair. The problem is he alongside somebody who's not the most mobile in Harry Maguire.
"The problem Lindelof has got is they've invested £80m on Maguire so they're going to have to put someone alongside him"
We'd win more games with another centre back dominant in both boxes than we would with a speed merchant many are clamouring for.
Stones and Dias aren't quick but they have Ederson covering them and Rodrigo parked in front.
That's absolutely a fair assessment from Gaz.
De Gea is the biggest problem. Our defenders will look better with a commanding GK behind them.
Neville is absolutely correct in his assessment that Maguire, Lindelof, and de Gea are not good enough to win you the title.
He is slightly biased but i don't see what is a problem there (while it is on normal level). He is English, United is English club in English league. Of course that he cares a little more for domestic player. Again, while it is not over the top, it is normal. All pundits are biased in all countries
one who comes off his line more than once a season!
£80 million pounds sterling.
Yeah I agree, if we’re constantly chasing back towards our own goal or being done by the ball over the top/in-behind then there's far more to that than whether the CBs have “pace” or not.
Change the GK and put another built-for-the-PL CB next to Maguire and I’m sure we would be fine
I usually read comments before seeing who wrote them. I always know when it is you.
I would say in the majority of goals we have conceded Maguire is out of position
Maguire looks an infinitely more assured defender when paired with Bailly, as they complement each other well. Trouble is Bailly can't stay fit long enough to cement his place in the starting eleven. Shame really as he's undoubtedly a talented player.
Congratulations!!I usually read comments before seeing who wrote them. I always know when it is you.
Neville's bang on theres really not a lot between Maguire and Lindelof but Maguire is probably marginally better and cost triple the amount so he has to play. Lindelof would be a perfectly fine number 2 CB at any club in the PL
Robbery.
Maguire is a quality defender. He reads the game better than most, strong in the challenge and brilliant in the air. His natural leadership abilities cannot be ignored either. His only issue is a lack of mobility owing to his large frame, which is a huge downfall in the modern game unfortunately. Plus he cost a fortune so he's always going to be first choice.
He needs a natural athlete alongside him, though, someone with pace and mobility. Bailly has that in abundance, but that injury record...
He needs a natural athlete alongside him, though, someone with pace and mobility. Bailly has that in abundance, but that injury record...
I don't dislike Neville, and hes a solid pundit but as a United fan it irritates my how he shows his impartiality by being too harsh on us at every given opportunity. I am not saying hes never right, but there are a lot of times hes overly harsh when i don't think it is entirely warranted. I posted the OP and I kinda regret it now, I was passionate at the time of posting it. I don't dislike him, and the thread title is strong to say the least, I just don't like his style at the best of times.
Just has a difficult job really doesn't he.
He's similar to Carragher. Everyone knows who they support, but they simply wouldn't last long if they just did the class clown act Ian Wright does on the BBC, with all the "we" business, and not even pretending to be balanced.
He has the turning circle artic lorry
You might as well copy and paste.