General Forum shutdown

VidaRed

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I think your guess is quite wrong, but carry on trying to be clever. Most of my posts are not in that forum for a start, and you also in your cleverness fail completely in missing a quite important fact. This account was not registered in Jun 2001, and its post count doesn't go back to then either, the name, join date, and post count was manually configured because the original WeasteDevil account was deleted. Any posts from that account are not linked to this account. So, guess again!
I knew that and also that you deleted yourself.

Now if your post count is not 'manually configured' then im quite certain that you'll lose a massive amount of posts.
 

Sky1981

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Oh dear...

This is not looking good

This will drive down posting traffic by quite substantially, I know I don't post much in the manchester United forum, probably football forum and entertainment, but general does provide it's comic relieve from time to time.

Are you sure about this Niall? is there no better alternatives? If some moron posted inappropriate in the football forum does it means we'll have to chop it as well? There's a lot of heavy stuff banter going on in there as well, although there's also more crapload shit in er bag thread, but it's been a part of the caf for quite a while.
 

Lailiani

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Oh dear...

This is not looking good

This will drive down posting traffic by quite substantially, I know I don't post much in the manchester United forum, probably football forum and entertainment, but general does provide it's comic relieve from time to time.

Are you sure about this Niall? is there no better alternatives? If some moron posted inappropriate in the football forum does it means we'll have to chop it as well? There's a lot of heavy stuff banter going on in there as well, although there's also more crapload shit in er bag thread, but it's been a part of the caf for quite a while.
As far as I know, Niall's announcement was refering to threads from the past. For everything else, there's a new general forum:
https://www.redcafe.net/f64/
 

Irwinwastheking

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Right, I'm pissed now and pretty pissed off. What the feck do Google think they are at? Are they suddenly the morality police? Bunch of Yanky corporate wankers!
 

Hectic

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This seems a bit suspicious to me. I know, from browsing other clubs' fora, that the General is actually very mild in content comparitively. And I don't just mean regarding images alone. Again, this crackdown by Google just doesn't add up.
:lol:
 

Snow

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Is it possible to clean up the 10k thread and save it? Don't want to lose that one.

Isn't there a way to prove you're 18 or older to be able to view the forum. Wouldn't that help one bit towards their rules?
 

MrK

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Is it possible to clean up the 10k thread and save it? Don't want to lose that one.

Isn't there a way to prove you're 18 or older to be able to view the forum. Wouldn't that help one bit towards their rules?
Afraid not. They're not on a crusade to clean up the internet, or to make it child friendly (well, not in this case anyway), they just have an agreement with the businesses that advertise through them that they won't show their ads on pages with porn, and that agreement is reflected in the terms and conditions agreed to by sites like RedCafe that sign up for the scheme.

They're not threatening to delete the site from the Google search engine or anything, they're just saying that if there's gonna be porn on the site then they won't allow AdSense to be shown on it.
 

AgainstAllOdds

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Don't think so, private or not, Google ads are still served on these pages as they scan the content to determine what ads to display.
The bunker has the same access permissions as the old general.

'Hiding' a forum doesn't prevent the google ads from being rendered on its pages. The adsense javascript runs on the page, scanning its content and serving appropriate ads. Very easy for them to still determine if there is inappropriate content on the page, regardless of whether the google search engine crawler can see it or not.
I'll give you my tuppence worth (:p) on this Niall since I've a lot of experience with vB and Adsense.

First of all, Google will serve ads on any page you install adsense regardless of the content. It will show relevant content to the page for those pages that are cached on Google servers. If Google cannot see the content then it will not deliver a relevant ad. It also will not know whether you are breaking the T&C or not.

Google cannot scan a webpage of a private forum because there will be authorization required in order to access it. It also cannot give you a type of code for you to insert that can scan a webpage and read its content because this would be in violation of Data Protection and Privacy laws. Things that are private, should remain so for a reason. There's a file called robots.txt which you should have already placed in your root webserver which tells Google robots where to scan the site in order to cache it. If you don't allow them to enter the General then they cannot cache the webpage and learn of the content. By making it private on the other hand secures it even more from possible checks from Google employees. However Googles T&C's may not allow you to place ads on private forums. (I doubt they complained about the Newbie forums).

There is also the other option that Weaste mentioned in which you can determine certain pages where ads will be disabled. This is the safest and cleanest way of doing it and ensures that you don't break the T&C's. There's plenty options in the adsense CP.

However I still am in favour of a private sub-forum, even if you would use the option of disabling ads on some pages. A sub-forum where only mainstanders would have access to which could be used to WUM the press and post the usual tripe that isn't allowed on the public part of the site.
 

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Keep us updated as regards Adsense , Niall . As far as I know it's difficult to get back the service if disabled for terms violation. :nervous:
 

Sassy Colin

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I'll give you my tuppence worth (:p) on this Niall since I've a lot of experience with vB and Adsense.

First of all, Google will serve ads on any page you install adsense regardless of the content. It will show relevant content to the page for those pages that are cached on Google servers. If Google cannot see the content then it will not deliver a relevant ad. It also will not know whether you are breaking the T&C or not.

Google cannot scan a webpage of a private forum because there will be authorization required in order to access it. It also cannot give you a type of code for you to insert that can scan a webpage and read its content because this would be in violation of Data Protection and Privacy laws. Things that are private, should remain so for a reason. There's a file called robots.txt which you should have already placed in your root webserver which tells Google robots where to scan the site in order to cache it. If you don't allow them to enter the General then they cannot cache the webpage and learn of the content. By making it private on the other hand secures it even more from possible checks from Google employees. However Googles T&C's may not allow you to place ads on private forums. (I doubt they complained about the Newbie forums).

There is also the other option that Weaste mentioned in which you can determine certain pages where ads will be disabled. This is the safest and cleanest way of doing it and ensures that you don't break the T&C's. There's plenty options in the adsense CP.

However I still am in favour of a private sub-forum, even if you would use the option of disabling ads on some pages. A sub-forum where only mainstanders would have access to which could be used to WUM the press and post the usual tripe that isn't allowed on the public part of the site.
Any chance of a response to this from the powers that be? (i.e. Niall)
 

Solius

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Is that you laughing or somebody drowning?

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