Yeah but terraforming Mars gives us a back up plan right? I mean if we get some working colonies on Mars, then find out a big meteor is about to wipe out human life on planet Earth, well okay that sucks, but we the species goes on.
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Yeah but terraforming Mars gives us a back up plan right? I mean if we get some working colonies on Mars, then find out a big meteor is about to wipe out human life on planet Earth, well okay that sucks, but we the species goes on.
Doing everything we can? You can't honestly be serious.
Youve got to hope that the idea you mentioned earlier, the one about firing particles into the upper atmosphere and basically creating a reflective barrier around the earth - or something like it - will save the day. As long as we dont fire too much up there and end up shutting out the sun entirely.
Well, some of us are. We don't live in an ideal world.
I live in the most polluted city in the world, you don't have to tell me what can happen when people completely disregard the environment. You couldn't be as enraged about the issue as people over here are.
"There's good news and there's bad news..."
What, Leicester?
No. New Delhi, India.
Only just noticed the tagline.
OK, that makes more sense. I assumed you meant that - or somewhere in China. Your location threw me.
We are doomed and all this international treats are bull shit, why the governments for example won't ban all the bulbs but leds? That would save a ton of energy (600 million of US dollars if just 1 bulb is replaced with a LED bulb on every household), shutdown all the coal power plants (sorry Trump), create another federal tax on gas and diesel in increments like 10 cents a year and using the money to give to the people who buys an electric car, goes solar at home etc.
140.43 billion gallons of gasoline was used in 2015 so they will have in the first year 14 billion of dollars, second year 28 billions and when gas was really expensive then people will start buying electric cars. Obama could do it he would had the support of the people - even from me and I didn't vote for him, but he didn't because after Roosevelt they (presidents) are all controlled by the big corp's.
140.43 billion gallons of gasoline was used in 2015 so they will have in the first year 14 billion of dollars, second year 28 billions and when gas was really expensive then people will start buying electric cars. Obama could do it he would had the support of the people - even from me and I didn't vote for him, but he didn't because after Roosevelt they (presidents) are all controlled by the big corp's.
I wish.
Wow.
I wish.
Not sure if I trust any data coming from China, I do work sometimes to someone from Taiwan who has business in Shanghai and he said the pollution there is brutal.
The planet won't die, it's a living thing that will correct itself in its own time. Us on the other hand? We're fecked.
Yeah. China be lying. There's no way air quality in Beijing is so close to London.
Siberia contains the largest concentration of subsurface methane on the planet. Any warming of that area will result in a catastrophic rise in greenhouse gases that will be like a bullet to our heads.
Yeah this is something that often gets forgotten, methane is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2 and the more ice that melts, the more methane gets released, and so on. And there is your runaway greenhouse effect.
There is no argument here. We know the historical make-up of our atmosphere going back hundreds of thousands of years and we know that the parts per million of greenhouses houses has gone through the roof since the industrial revolution, and since the 50's it's basically a vertical line upwards!
Aye, the permafrost "bomb"... terrifying stuff.
But that's not the graph I'm talking about, rather the global temperatures, for which the correct word would be acceleration.
You argued if human's are to blame for the warming, and yes, absolutely all of the evidence says we are. "Acceleration" is not correct all all, if the graph usually goes up and down and since the industrial revolution only goes up, that is NOT acceleration, it's change!
Don't worry folks, Renewable Technologies will save us!
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150402-the-worst-place-on-earth
.... I teach a Climate Change scientist, and she had never heard of this before. She said as she was reading it, the rest of the world around her faded away - totally shaken by it.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150402-the-worst-place-on-earth
.... I teach a Climate Change scientist, and she had never heard of this before. She said as she was reading it, the rest of the world around her faded away - totally shaken by it.
Not unless you are arguing that global temperatures were going to remain absolutely constant or going to decrease.
Global temperatures were going to remain constant within +/- 1 degrees. Just as they have done for the last 10,000 years.
In the next 100 years, they might go up 4 degrees.
It's pretty much the number one global issue right now, or at least should be. Unfortunately people focus on the here and now, so issues such as terrorism (which many in the West and other major countries will be completely untouched by) take priority instead since 'beating' ISIS is a better soundbite.
Part of me wonders whether the number of older politicians has some impact upon this. Irrespective of what they believe, I'd imagine any politician who's around 50-60+ doesn't need to worry too much about this because when the really disastrous effects kick in they'll be gone, leaving us to deal with the consequences.
At this point any country reneging on things like the Paris Agreement, or worsening the problem in a blatantly active way, should be treated in the same manner as any terrorist organisation would. This won't happen, of course, but Trump reneging on climate deals and undoing much of the global work done through trade wars etc would be far, far worse than anything done by...well, just about any group out there.
Part of me wonders whether the number of older politicians has some impact upon this. Irrespective of what they believe, I'd imagine any politician who's around 50-60+ doesn't need to worry too much about this because when the really disastrous effects kick in they'll be gone, leaving us to deal with the consequences.
At this point any country reneging on things like the Paris Agreement, or worsening the problem in a blatantly active way, should be treated in the same manner as any terrorist organisation would. This won't happen, of course, but Trump reneging on climate deals and undoing much of the global work done through trade wars etc would be far, far worse than anything done by...well, just about any group out there.
What's your point? Regardless of however we reached this stage which is only going to get worse, rather than blaming and moaning it is important to take actions to do something about it. Most people going on about the climate change constitute of what creates the majority of demand for the industries that have caused this situation. Time to take a look at yourself.
My point is pretty obvious I thought, that it's beyond any doubt that human activity has caused this.
I actually stopped eating meat after watching Cowspiracy, so you know, I've taken a look at myself. Thing is, I live a very privileged life as an EU citizen, I have soooo many choices in life so skipping meat is easy for me, not so much for large parts of the rest of the World. And the more that countries attempt to isolate themselves (Trump, Brexit and the effects of ISIS) the less people will have that privilege, sad but true.
Fecking spellcheck didn't like Cowspiracy eh? Well at least you got it
As I say though, it's an easy life choice for many of the privileged.
I really wanted to stop eating meat after watching Cowspiracy.
Didn't want to watch Cowspiracy so I didn't have to stop eating meat.
I thought about all the dishes I could eat that revolved around nuts. Like, groundnut soup. It would basically be a lot of groundnut soup.
Mind. Blown. The whole Brexit/Trump/Daily Mail/conspiracy theory conflation is amazing. The idiots are literally taking over the asylum. How did it happen?!?
I've never seen Cowspiracy. Should I feel more smug than I do for not eating meat?
Youve done more than Al Gore has ever done with that alone.