No chance. Gazza was straight up mentally ill. Fergie would have given him the Paul McGrath treatment.
Good player making a wrong career move
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I would really like to think he would have, he does do a whole lot of good towards players. But gazza would've been too hard for anyone.
Yeah, I suppose so. I'd love to go back in time and change his mind.
Samuel Eto'o to Anzhi Makhachkala comes to mind. Ranked 3rd in the Serie A Capocannoniere, and scored a career high 37 club goals for the season, including a brace in the Coppa Italia final:
and the early opener vs. Bayern in a fiercely contested affair at the Allianz Arena:
Trailed only Messi and Gómez in the Champions League top scorers list. Decides he wants to prioritize money at age 30 instead of contending for the highest honors (something he'd done at both Barcelona and Internazionale):
That kinda marked the downturn of his career - Anzhi had financial problems, and Eto'o subsequently had a couple meh spells at Chelsea and Everton. When he could've instead propelled one of the leading Champions League clubs for 2-3 seasons in his early 30s.
and the early opener vs. Bayern in a fiercely contested affair at the Allianz Arena:
Trailed only Messi and Gómez in the Champions League top scorers list. Decides he wants to prioritize money at age 30 instead of contending for the highest honors (something he'd done at both Barcelona and Internazionale):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...he-passes-medical-with-Anzhi-Makhachkala.html
That kinda marked the downturn of his career - Anzhi had financial problems, and Eto'o subsequently had a couple meh spells at Chelsea and Everton. When he could've instead propelled one of the leading Champions League clubs for 2-3 seasons in his early 30s.
This!
Anelka to Bolton was a very good move for him. He revived his big league career by going there and earned himself Chelsea move.
Ravel Morrison to West Ham.
I know he hadn't done anything at United to prove his ability but to be described by SAF as the best player he'd ever seen at that age surely if he'd didn't leave for the money and kept his head down he'd be a first team regular now.
I know he hadn't done anything at United to prove his ability but to be described by SAF as the best player he'd ever seen at that age surely if he'd didn't leave for the money and kept his head down he'd be a first team regular now.
I would like to reply to his post with a strict definition just to make my post a bit more interesting. I define players who made the wrong move as those who went to another club but his career went downwards so much that he became far below his previous level. So I am excluding guys like Torres (doing decent for Atletico by turning from Complete Forward to Target Man reached double figures in goals for Atletico for the first time in 5 years), Balotelli (rediscovering his touch even though you can say that Ligue 1 is rubbish), and Zlatan (rediscovered his form after leaving Barcelona). I am also excluding overweight, greedy and unmotivated players who are using their past reputation to con Asian clubs to pay for their services and later blame the club and the league for his lack of success (JERMAINE PENNANT, yes, I am looking at you).
Aleksander Hleb: Arsenal to Barcelona
One of the most feared inside forwards, he was one of the best players at Arsenal and in the world. He went to Barcelona and sat on the bench for a season, and seemed to have lost his mojo. He never reached the same level when he went on loan and was moving clubs yearly for a few years until he suffered an injury. He is now moving across clubs regularly as well.
Park Chu Young: Monaco to Arsenal
Wasn't he a first team player at Monaco? A last minute panic buy, he never really started for Arsenal. He was not even on the bench. He got loaned to several clubs and never made the grade too. He became deemed to be not suitable for European level after this and he has moved back to the Korean league.
Julio Baptista: Sevilla to Real Madrid
My friends called him 'the Animal'. They talked about how strong and powerful he was and how he ripped center backs apart. Lost his magic after Sevilla and he was being moved around from club to club. I saw him and Richard Dunne going for the same ball, and he was completely destroyed by Richard Dunne. Maybe the La Liga defenders he faced were weaker.
Francis Jeffers: Everton to Arsenal
Poor guy. Got injured so often at Arsenal that he hardly even played. Was labeled one of England's best prospects but went to zero in a span of a few years. He then went to play for clubs in Australia.
Aleksander Hleb: Arsenal to Barcelona
One of the most feared inside forwards, he was one of the best players at Arsenal and in the world. He went to Barcelona and sat on the bench for a season, and seemed to have lost his mojo. He never reached the same level when he went on loan and was moving clubs yearly for a few years until he suffered an injury. He is now moving across clubs regularly as well.
Park Chu Young: Monaco to Arsenal
Wasn't he a first team player at Monaco? A last minute panic buy, he never really started for Arsenal. He was not even on the bench. He got loaned to several clubs and never made the grade too. He became deemed to be not suitable for European level after this and he has moved back to the Korean league.
Julio Baptista: Sevilla to Real Madrid
My friends called him 'the Animal'. They talked about how strong and powerful he was and how he ripped center backs apart. Lost his magic after Sevilla and he was being moved around from club to club. I saw him and Richard Dunne going for the same ball, and he was completely destroyed by Richard Dunne. Maybe the La Liga defenders he faced were weaker.
Francis Jeffers: Everton to Arsenal
Poor guy. Got injured so often at Arsenal that he hardly even played. Was labeled one of England's best prospects but went to zero in a span of a few years. He then went to play for clubs in Australia.
Ödegaard to Real Madrid - at least it seems to be the wrong move, time will tell.
Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid, 
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.Mark Hughes to Barcelona, also .
.Kaka to Real has to be counted? Milan was his home.
Fabregas to Barca too? Was doing brilliantly at Arsenal then went to essentially keep the bench warm
Fabregas to Barca too? Was doing brilliantly at Arsenal then went to essentially keep the bench warm
RVP to united 
was a good move for us, but for him?
was a good move for us, but for him?
Liam Miller joining Man Utd.
Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid,
I'm surprised Mario Götze to Bayern hasn't been mentioned yet.
That's the key, for all players' moves BTW, including Götze. Hindsight is a beauty but not around when players decide their next destination.
Predictions of pundits and fans who'll cut it where and who won't turn out to be so often so wrong that it's not more valuable than reading the horoscope.
I obviously don't know him in person but he comes across as someone who appreciates the experience of living/playing abroad. (His missus not so much IIRC.)RVP to united
was a good move for us, but for him?
Won the PL title that he craved for.RVP to united
was a good move for us, but for him?
Shevchenko to Chelsea
Didn't know that he is a politician now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Shevchenko
Didn't know that he is a politician now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Shevchenko
Thomas Gravesen? Or was Real an adventure too big to turn down?
Januzaj to Dortmund, he needed first team experience and thought he was good enough to walk into their team.
Giuseppe Rossi to Newcastle, but that was more down to them not picking him than the player's attitude.
Giuseppe Rossi to Newcastle, but that was more down to them not picking him than the player's attitude.
Oscar to China is mental. Money is money I suppose.
Yann M'Vila going to Rubin Kazan at 23 when he could've gone anywhere else in Europe.
Fabregas to Barcelona
Song to Barcelona
Song to Barcelona
Attitude issues. No one was willing to take a punt on him at that time.
Beckham to Real Madrid
He would be a United legend by now
He would be a United legend by now
Dzeko, Mangala,Bravo,Negtedo etc etc etc
Mr Posh Spice didnt wear the trousers.
Zaha to United. Too much too soon. Very unpolished but is now proving to be a solid Premier League player. We signed him and loaned him back for 6 months. It should have been 18 months. Shame the manager who signed him then retired as well. Moyes didn't seem to want tricky wingers and even seemed to prefer Young and Valencia to Nani. I'd like to think Fergie could have gotten a lot out of him if he had postponed retirement by a year.
Deco to Chelsea.
Also Torres.
Also Torres.
Jody Morris was touted as future England captain once.
He did captain England (Under 21 anyway!).
I was at his debut and saw pretty much his entire Chelsea career first hand. He could have had a decent career and maybe a few England caps but he was never going to be world beater.
Brian Laudrup probably regrets going to Chelsea if asked. Sheer brilliant for Rangers.
Bony to City
Bony to City
Veron to United obviously.
fecking hell. Have you ever read anything on this forum before?
I'm trying to figure what this has to do with Van Persie's move to United.
Which, I think, was a better move for him than for the club. But that probably belongs in the unpopular opinions thread.
Money. Overall though, the transfer pretty much wrecked his life, not his career, I mean look at him now.
If he'd signed for Utd, things could have been completely different. Spurs, with Venables in charge, allowed the players to get away with loads more than Gazza would have been able to with SAF.
All purely hypothesis though, who knows how things would have turned out.
Jaap Stam to Lazio, not that he had much choice in the matter like
Alcacer joining Barca.
Becks to LA Galaxy