I like Gill, I think he's a good bloke and always comes across as a football lover. He'll be missed.
Goodbye David Gill
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I'll accept Woodward as a legend if he manages to reduce ticket prices, gets rid of ACS and signs Messi, Wilshere, Bale, and brings Ronaldo back. The big man a failed in any of these feats, the loser.
Goodbye David Gill
It's like we never, knew you at all
You had the grace to hold yourself
While those around you crawled
They crawled out of the woodwork
And they whispered into your brain
They set you on the treadmill
And they made you change your name
I was going to change it, but like all things Elton John, it seems to have been written directly about my life
It's like we never, knew you at all
You had the grace to hold yourself
While those around you crawled
They crawled out of the woodwork
And they whispered into your brain
They set you on the treadmill
And they made you change your name
I was going to change it, but like all things Elton John, it seems to have been written directly about my life
its a ship which left the harbour long ago and is irrelevant and lacks traction now. Surely you recognise those initial suspicions have been proven unfounded?
Gill inherited a situation he did not agree with or sign up for. But his passion for the club (as a supporter as blind as any of us) meant he chose to stay on and ensured he made the best of his new very difficult operating environment.
I have nothing but respect and congratulations for him for his tenure as our CEO. Given the circumstances, I cannot think how he could have done better. Certainly, after the 'insider trading' mess Kenyan C.UNT left behind him, Gill is 2nd only after SAF in being owed our thanks for our achievements since 2006, on and off the pitch.
Anyway, SAF loved working with him. In my opinion, any other opinion is pre conceived agenda led and sour grapes.
We should carve a statue of the new guy in oak thus making a wood Edward Woodward.
The real Ed Woodward could keep it on his desk and in times of trouble, he could look at it and ask.
What would the wood Edward Woodward do.
What would the wood Edward Woodward do.
I've never been a fan.
I've always suspected he was at least partly responsible for our screw ups in the transfer market - our complete failure to land our top targets when he was our negotiator. And the Tevez fiasco I laid partly at his door. The almost loss of Rooney. The huge loss of money on Berbatov which he might perhaps have foreseen. And the Pogba nonsense, where Gill and Fergie weren't aware that a contract extension couldn't be activated in the case of an underage player, resulting in £20m walking out the door. It was mysterious to me how he held onto his job.
His recent seeming absence from transfer negotiations might have been a straw in the wind.
He appears to be a decent bloke though, so I wish him well.
I've always suspected he was at least partly responsible for our screw ups in the transfer market - our complete failure to land our top targets when he was our negotiator. And the Tevez fiasco I laid partly at his door. The almost loss of Rooney. The huge loss of money on Berbatov which he might perhaps have foreseen. And the Pogba nonsense, where Gill and Fergie weren't aware that a contract extension couldn't be activated in the case of an underage player, resulting in £20m walking out the door. It was mysterious to me how he held onto his job.
His recent seeming absence from transfer negotiations might have been a straw in the wind.
He appears to be a decent bloke though, so I wish him well.
Fantastic manager, he did a great job here.
Well if any of this was accurate (I am not sure it is) then we are truely fecked, the next lad hasn't a clue about football.
feck him, he's a cnut
I reckon the next guy will be a Glazer mouth piece. So yeah we're fecked. We'll be crying for Gill before long.
Yeah, I might have been doing him an injustice.
But scapegoating is in the grand tradition of football. We probably won't land a top player for the next 10 years now.
Agreed with all these. Including that "Kenyan is a C.UNT" line.
Goodbye David Gill
Though I never knew you at all
You had the grace to hold yourself
While those around you crawled
They crawled out of the woodwork
And they whispered into your brain
They set you on the treadmill
And they made you change your name
And it seems to me you lived your life
Like a candle in the wind
Never knowing who to cling to
When the rain set in
And I would have liked to have known you
But I was just a kid
Your candle burned out long before
Your legend ever did
Though I never knew you at all
You had the grace to hold yourself
While those around you crawled
They crawled out of the woodwork
And they whispered into your brain
They set you on the treadmill
And they made you change your name
And it seems to me you lived your life
Like a candle in the wind
Never knowing who to cling to
When the rain set in
And I would have liked to have known you
But I was just a kid
Your candle burned out long before
Your legend ever did
What do we now owe?
500 mill on the bonds at over 8% = approx 45 mill interest per year - mature 2017? What then?
possibly plus
220mill from when the Glazers paid off the PIKs - how did this happen? Is there still a loan somewhere?
Anything else?
If this is the case we need to find 45-75 mill per year to service loans. So at the very least we seem to be quite unlikely to go under as per our worst fear when the takeover happened. Even in a fire sale someone would pay more than the debt now.
That said I'd like to know what the plan is to further reduce or even eradicate the debt.
He tried to stop the takeover but then stayed to try to make the best of things for the club which he has more or less done. If he had walked then we would have ended up with someone with no particular love for United which would have been much worse. He probably has still had to do things he would rather not have done but we all have to do that from time to time e.g. the ACS scheme or maybe he calculated the pain vs the gain, who knows but we don't all live in the fantasy land that most MUST types live in. Doing what you are told is the nature of employment.What about criticising and openly admitting a move would be bad for a club, before bending over backwards and accepting 600+ milllion pound debt despite his intense 'love for the club'. Thanks for the stability Dave!
Not only that, but he has been active in cutting all ties with fan groups, and in the last two years since the green and gold campaign, has pretty much banned any dialogue whatsoever.
Also presiding over the ridiculous 'ACS' ticket scheme.
I would say good riddance, but the only problem is the new fella will probably be a feckload worse
As for cutting ties with the supporters groups. Can you blame him? I don't want anything to do with them and I'm just a fan.
What do you call a bloke with three trees on his head?
Forrest?
I'm quite sad to see Gill go. He didn't seem a bad guy at all and he's obviously done a good job for the many years that he's been by SAF's side.
I for one, wish him well and thank him for his lengthy services.
I for one, wish him well and thank him for his lengthy services.
Ill miss his yearly transfer muppetism mode at the end of the season which was usually followed by the no value antics in september
Sorry to see such a devoted servant to the club leave. As many have noted with Kenyon or who knows it could have been lost worse.
I've never quite understood why he got so much heat from fans. Anyway, I think he's done an excellent job as CEO and as SAF has said he's gotten the funds when SAF really needed it. Kept the club financially stable and growing, can't complain about that. Good luck to him.
Its about time you caught up with the latest news on our financial situation
"In total, the bond debt has fallen from £509m in June 2010 to £360m at 30th September 2012."
On his gravestone will be carved his oft-stated motto:
Turning more fans into customers
Thank you, David, for not lying to us about that. Wait - hang on - no actually I think I'd have preferred being lied to about that.
Turning more fans into customers
Thank you, David, for not lying to us about that. Wait - hang on - no actually I think I'd have preferred being lied to about that.
Gill has done a good job for us. Do we know anything about this new guy?
Reading the quotes from SAF on Gill ,you get the feeling that the relationship was a very strong one ,despite them not seeing eye to eye on some occasions.Not sure this will be the case with Woodward.
The reasons he gives is strange to me... he's surely done something for being axed... like banging rednose bird... I already see tomorrow headlines : Me, Alex and Catty
In tears here
RIP sweet prince.
RIP sweet prince.
I was thinking about whether this move from Gill might get Fergie thinking about calling it a day, he's worked in tandem with Gill to basically run the whole club for many years and now he has to forge a relationship with a whole new guy.
Woodward is not really a whole new guy, he's been the vice CEO for a few years. So Sir Alex will know him well enough.
Ye but knowing him and working with him on a day to day basis is a completely different scenario
It's not really his:
"• Converting more fans to customers
Our focus on improving our service to our fans and building our relationship with them remains a Company-wide objective. The Customer Relationship Management system is now fully operational with 1.9 million fan records on the database, towards our target of 3.5 million fan records by the end of 2005. We continue to learn about our fans’ interests and develop products and services for them. The launch, in June, of our ‘One United’ membership scheme led to 125,000 new members by 31 July 2003 compared to 87,000 members at the same time last year. In August we also launched the new Red Cinema concept in Salford Quays, near the Old Trafford stadium, as another new service for our fans."
Chairman's statement, 2003 Annual Report
Are you stuck in 2010 Wibbs? Gross debt is down to ~£360m and annual interest will be around £30m or so.
True, lets hope they will both rise to the challenge. I know Sir Alex will.
Old Feeky was giving him a hard time there on twitter. Clearly not a fan.
Where is Feeky these days?
Apart from twitter.
Apart from twitter.
as an aside: how tall is Gill? or is he surrounded by hobbits? was watching the news last night and they showed him walking alongside two others - and they looked tiny next to him.
