And people were saying that he wouldn't be managing in the Championship next season.
Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
People need to stop saying this. He's done nothing to prove he could handle that role in any capacity.
Yeah, ok - that's how it works.If I took over Bayern, they would still have a good chance of winning the C.L - and I have never managed a u7-team
Luis Enrique or Pochettino is what they need to steer them in the right direction. All the talks about Nagelsmann, but he has not really done that well at Bayern. When he was sacked, he had bayern second and his champion league exploit with them as well isn't that impressive. It seems Nagelsmann is living of the hype of his name.
It probably will be on the basis that the playing side of the recruitment is now handled by Vivell and the rest of the recruitment team.
This is surprising because I thought he was there for the long haul. Then again its typical Chelsea.
How many British coaches have been sacked now this season?
How many British coaches have been sacked now this season?
All the shit ones, Britain doesn't produce good coaches.
Why is that though?
With all the money spent I'm English football and the cost of coaching badges, courses etc. You'd expect us to be on par with the Italians, Germans etc.
It's something I've been curious about for many years now.
Potter definitely made a move at @crossy1686's wife
Be thankful we didnt hire him. Many posters on here wanted him when he was at Brighton. He did seem to be a quality coach over there, so this is no knock to those posters
Agree, some fantastic young players I cant believe have gone to Chelsea...Gusto when Reece James is there, Chukwuemeka when other youngsters more established arent gettign games, Madueke when so many others have failed to make the spot there own.....etc etc I wonder if its bad career choices or money motivation?
I do think any manager would have struggled. They never should have fired Tuchel.....but though only a few months, Potters record was diabolical, he did have to go, should have a good month ago in fact it was so bad.
It seems English managers aren't willing to do lower leagues or learn on the job elsewhere anymore. They're rushing to be appointed to a top 4 PL team without the experience or know how to manage at that level. Look at Lampard, Gerrard, Potter etc, foreign managers start out at lower league or lesser teams in their countries and work their way up, learning on the way, which is probably why they're better equipped to deal with managing at this level.
To be fair, international management isn't the pinnacle for elite managers nowadays. Martinez got sacked from Everton and was rewarded with the Belgium job. He then underperformed with Belgium and got the Portugal job.
He only got the job because he was cheap though, Belgium couldn't afford a good manager with their budget and he was the best available with what they had to spend.
Does anyone think that with players Chelsea brought, they might have done a head count on away trips and missed someone out, like what happened to Kevin in Home Alone?
Is there an issue fitting them in though? A good manager gets a tune out of some of them, maybe he shores up the defence, or gets the left or right side playing well, or maybe there's some kind of pattern to the play etc. We've seen none of that from Potter and that's the concern really. With all the players Chelsea have signed, at least a couple should be playing well.
I was going to do some quotes and decided to stop being mean
For the EPL, Howe and Potter are actually very good coaches, and Rodgers a more established coach already. You also have Dyche, even if he is a bit out of the times, and Southgate as well even if he’s flat. After that, it’s real life and the results they get.
I mean, all these seem an improvement or progress on the correspondent, previous generation of Pardew / Moyes / McClaren / Allardyce / Bruce?
You're just blabbing the usual cliches fans spout now about managerial qualifications.
What English manager was rushing to be appointed to a top 4 PL team (2 of those slots have been closed off indefinitely for years now between City and Liverpool)? There are plenty of English managers in the Championship and further down in the english pyramid.
And this is the wrong thread to even make the point you are trying to make... If anyone did it the "right" way, it's Potter. He failed at the final step but no one can accuse him of rushing his way there, he did a great job with Brighton.
Potter was coaching university football for many years before joining Ostersaunds in the lower leagues and doing well there.
Rodgers also begun his career coaching Chelseas academy before working his way up the leagues at senior level.
I'm sure there are numerous other examples over the years. It just seems at the top level, British coaches never thrive. The only ones I can think of in the last twenty years are Ferguson and to a lesser extent Moyes at Everton
Won't hurt his bank balance TBF!Why won't it hurt his stock
I forgot about Dyche actually, he's a good coach and I wouldnt say he's out of the times; just his teams play a different brand of football.
Fair enough - I didn't know Belgium couldn't afford anyone better. Wouldn't you say Potter is more qualified for the England job than Southgate was though?
Yeah, they might have underestimated the importance of a high manager-club fit.
I would say he was overwhelmed by the task.
He didnot underperform. Third place in a WC is a massive achievement for Belgium.
He did? Surely a team like Tottenham would have been a better role for him before taking on Chelsea? He jumped from a - don't get relegated team - to a - we expect to win every game team. Those a massive differences in expectations and he wasn't ready for it. He should have gone for a Tottenham next who are more of a - we don't expect to win every week and top 4 is a nice to have team.
But again, he took the job because he was offered it instead of thinking what the best move for his career actually was. Now he'll struggle to get appointed at top half team because he's publically proven he was out of his depth in a big way. There was no rush for this job, it would have come eventually, he was trying to speed run his career for no reason.
He's a midtable level manager. Best case scenario is he takes over a midtable club, gets backed, and gets them into Europe. I always thought it was a bizarre appointment by Chelsea.
How are you people gauging managerial talent by nationality?
The PL is the best league in the world (so we are told). Aspiring English managers face competition for the top club manager spots not only from their fellow countrymen, but from top managers from other countries who desire the challenge and extra pay (and huge severance in the case of Chelsea).
You have Unai Emery coming in to manage Aston Villa. Unai Emery. Multiple winner of the Europa League, took Sevilla to many top 4 finishes. What other league faces that level of competition?
There is too many of them, so yes there is an issue fitting them unless FIFA decides that we are moving to 13 or 15 players instead of 11.
Because managing in Sweden and managing Chelsea are different beasts. How are you supposed to handle the expectation of Chelsea when you've never done anything remotely near that? It's the same for other managers, we see it every season.
I'm just glad only 1 person on here had the stones to take my bet.
Well yes, there's an issue fitting them in because they're all playing shite. If he managed to get 11 of those players playing well there wouldn't be any issue fitting anyone in and they'd have a nailed on first 11 instead of a squad of 40 disjoined players. Again, that's the managers job.
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same but I decided against it also.With the squad of players Belgium had in 2018, I think a semi final place was to be expected. To get knocked out of the group stages in Qatar was a massive underachievement.
Not really, Southgate managed the u21's for years and was part of the England fold before moving into the main job. We've seen in the past appointing club managers as international managers just doesn't work.
I can imagine that Boehly liked him because he is a native speaker. American owners do not deal with foreign coaches. Also they have quite a different approach to deal with managers and coaches.
It might also explain why they fell out with Tuchel so quickly. Tuchel probably came across as very direct and brazen - whereas he simply lacked the ability to communicate in a charming and nuanced way.
I want to add that you can expect a number of former winning players from this golden PL era to become very good coaches in the coming years, even if Neville, Lamps, Slippy & others are not offering the best impression… and yes, I am very interested in what Rooney (!) is going to do with his reputation and cumulated credit.
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