You are mad ac!
This is like a children's argument, yes I know I quoted you first because that's how the forum works. Don't quote someone's post and then say "I wasn't replying to you".Most ridiculous argument ever in the caf?
Hargreaves out for the start of the season....
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This is like a children's argument, yes I know I quoted you first because that's how the forum works. Don't quote someone's post and then say "I wasn't replying to you".Did you whine about putting words in somebodys mouth? Where did I say I wasn't replying to you.You are mad ac!
Most ridiculous argument ever in the caf?
Surely the theory is the same as the Hargreaves on you demanded I answer. Perhaps you would be so kind as to explain the subtle differences? And perhaps include the Veron one. By the logic used any player who played in a trophy winning season was a good signing and worth every penny regardless of any other factors. I would suggest that would be one of the stupider arguements.
Anyway, back to the main issue...
Nonsense, but any player who scored a penalty in one of our ONLY THREE ever Champions League wins, now that's a different story.
Had Veron, Birtles, Prunier, Taibi or anyone for that matter scored the winning goal in the most important Premier League game of the season to pretty much secure the league and then gone on to score a Champions League final penalty... damn fecking right they'd be worth the money. If you don't think so you must be on acid.
The question being asked was would you go back in history and change his signing and risk changing history. I think somebody has already mentioned the butterfly effect. Every player who has ever played for United has shaped our history. Would you change that? If the answer is no does that mean you think every player we have ever signed was a good one and worth every penny? That every player we turned down was a good decision? Have a step back and look at what is being argued. If you think that is a sensible arguement then I worry for you.
Veron scored the winner against Arsenal the year we won the league and I'm sure a few more along the way. He was still a bad signing despite being a fantastic footballer.
Where did I say I wasn't replying to you? Can you whow me the wordd 'I am not replying to you'. Have a look back at the last post on the previous page where I addressed what was meant by that post. For someone bitching about having words put in their mouth you should take a closer look at what you're reading and posting.
You are mad ac!
Most ridiculous argument ever in the caf?
Some have shaped it well, others have helped us be shit, I'd defo change more than a good few if given chance.
I have never said anything about Hargreaves being a good or bad signing, I simply said that pen was worth every penny, the sooner you can understand what I mean by that the better.
The point being made is every player who ever played for us has led to what the club has acheived which is why the question was idiotic. The sooner you understand that the better.
Anyone know his progress? didn´t they say he would be out for around 6 weeks ?
whats his status ?
whats his status ?
2 weeks.
Tweaked his hamstring again today receiving his birthday bumps, then set himself on fire tryin to blow out the candles on his cake
I always knew noodle was familiar...
I think telegraph says that he has resumed light training, I'd say another 2 weeks.
Yep, he hopes to resume full training in the dreaded 2 weeks.
I still have hopes for Owen, probably false hope, but I still think he'll get back to fitness and come in handy for the season run-in. He'll earn himself another 1 year contract to start with with play bonuses.
Yeah, for some reason I just don't think this is the end of the curl'ed one.
I still hold a tiny bit of hope for Hargreaves, but it's on the wane I have to admit. Like with Ole several years back, he managed to come back and play another season before finally retiring.
I hope Hargreaves can come back, but I see it like the situation with Ole. It's hard to imagine Hargreaves getting back to full, complete fitness where he'll be able to play at the top level on a consistent basis for several more seasons. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I'm losing hope a bit.
I hope Hargreaves can come back, but I see it like the situation with Ole. It's hard to imagine Hargreaves getting back to full, complete fitness where he'll be able to play at the top level on a consistent basis for several more seasons. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I'm losing hope a bit.
Manchester United are expected to leave Owen Hargreaves out of their Champions League squad for the second-half of the season.
The Guardian says United manager Sir Alex Ferguson is having to weigh up whether he can afford to risk including a player who has managed only six minutes of first-team football in the past 28 months.
The early indications from Old Trafford are that he has lost faith in the former England international.
The 25-man squad has to be submitted to Uefa by 1 February and if the luckless Hargreaves is omitted it will only increase the sense that a player who turned 30 today is unlikely to be offered a new contract to replace his present deal, which expires in Jun
The Guardian says United manager Sir Alex Ferguson is having to weigh up whether he can afford to risk including a player who has managed only six minutes of first-team football in the past 28 months.
The early indications from Old Trafford are that he has lost faith in the former England international.
The 25-man squad has to be submitted to Uefa by 1 February and if the luckless Hargreaves is omitted it will only increase the sense that a player who turned 30 today is unlikely to be offered a new contract to replace his present deal, which expires in Jun
No hope for him in my book. I've thought this for a long time.
I think he may appear before the end of the season but as a goodbye.
I think he may appear before the end of the season but as a goodbye.
think he has started light training
He's not in our revised Champions League squad according to Uefa's website: UEFA.com - UEFA Champions League - Man. United
It'd be madness if he was.
Not very surprising at all to be honest
He has been selected in our premier league squad though.
I agree. Worth a mention though.
Hargreaves' inclusion in that squad means nothing unfortunately because an overage player has to be registered unless you have more than 25 of them (and we don't).
Smalling, Bebe and Obertan all have to be named in the Champions League 25 man squad in order to be eligible whereas they don't in the PL squad. The Champions League B list rules are slightly different in so much as you must have been registered at the club for two years along with being under 21 in order to be named outside the main squad.
Word going about that he's retiring at the end of the season.
Not much of a surprise there, if true.
Does anyone know for sure would we have recieved anything in terms of compensation/insurance revenue ?
Not much of a surprise there, if true.
Does anyone know for sure would we have recieved anything in terms of compensation/insurance revenue ?
This is sad, even though we all had a feeling he might. I think I will go and cry now.
At least there's some closure (if true) and some of us can stop living in hope.Very unfortunate for the guy. He was a good sportsman/footballer and a great athlete.
On the bright side we can close this chapter and replace the guy.
He's been a massive massive loss for us since he's been out, really sad for him if true.
All please rise and join with me in one last rendition of:
Oh, Owen Hargreaves!
You're the love of my life
Oh, Owen Hargraves
I'd let you shag my wife
Oh, Owen Hargreaves
I want curly hair too!
Oh, Owen Hargreaves!
You're the love of my life
Oh, Owen Hargraves
I'd let you shag my wife
Oh, Owen Hargreaves
I want curly hair too!
Waiting for his lucrative contract to end before retiring???
Or am I being cynical?
Or am I being cynical?
Who woundn't?
£17M - 4 years - 27 appearances - 2 goals.
It does not come as a surprise his operation was high risk and of no real benefit it was a hit and hope procedure which I commented on a fair few times.
If the club want to do anything they should look into the whole affair and see what mistakes if any were made and hope we don't make them again in the future.
If the club want to do anything they should look into the whole affair and see what mistakes if any were made and hope we don't make them again in the future.
If he had to retire on medical grounds I think his contract would be paid up anyway.
Plus he doesn't seem the type.
Hugely important goal v Arsenal in the league and a penalty in the CL final in 2008.
Its too bad, I figured he was going to leave United in the summer, but I had hoped he might continue his career, say back in the MLS or something like that.
Big loss for United, there aren't many decent replacement versions of him out there.
Big loss for United, there aren't many decent replacement versions of him out there.
I've said all along we've missed Owen Hargreaves since he got injured.
Really gutted for the guy in all honesty if it's true.
this.
i don't really rate hargreaves much on the ball, he does a job in europe and the more i look back on it, the price was worth it to win the european cup. almost anything is worth it to win that pot.
very very sad tbh, always liked him its such a shame its taken the best part of 3 years of hope for us and him to still end up at this point.