Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) get the depressing job of reviewing United's 3-0 loss at Old Trafford to Liverpool. They discuss what went wrong, Casemiro's day to forget, and the pressure now on Erik Ten Hag. They also take some time to give McTominay a proper farewell, and give their overall thoughts on the Summer Transfer Window.
Weird to level at Benzema whose heroics carried the biggest team in the world to a CL title. Plus all the times he shone in the biggest club games. Benzema has been renowned as a big game player for a long time.
It’s literally got nothing to do with that; purely moments of absolute magic out of nowhere from Benzema, particularly in games that were going away from Madrid. Key positions Kane had been in for Spurs where he, and he alone messed up and squandered opportunities. Evidence states Benzema, in those isolated moments mostly does the most impressive things of his career, from his catalogue of insane goals and performances.
It's not pointless when the criticism of Kane is that he hasn't won trophies.
Players have different paths, Kane has had an affinity to one particular club, which unfortunately for him, doesn't stand a good chance of winning big titles. Doesn't change who he is as a player though.
What have I levelled at Benzema?
Stupid post. We all watch the game. Some of us just put more stock in what a player does in the biggest of moments.
We will never know, but why do people like to pretend that Harry Kane doesn't also play for England? The weak 'Spurs are not good enough to win trophies' argument doesn't apply to the national team.
Do people pretend that?
I don't think so, I just think nobody believes England's "failings" mean anything about Harry Kane.
Why don't they? He's supposed to be the talisman, similar to what Mbappe is for France. The team goes as he goes. Harry Kane could never in a month of Sundays do what Mbappe did in the World Cup final. He's just not built that way mentally. That's my suspicion, he's free to prove me wrong at any point.
That's Just fiction.
Problem here is people believing individuals win trophies rather than teams.
I've asked the question and yes its hypothetical but no harm in guessing.
Are Spurs winning a league with Lewandowski rather than Kane?
Same question goes for England and world cup.
Kane is a good player. Lack of trophies doesn't mean he's bad. Giggs must have been shit then, he never won anything with Wales.
Hypothetical questions are pointless. All we can do is look at what has actually happened. And what has happened is that Kane has gone Caspar in the biggest games for both Spurs and England. That's two teams, not just Spurs.
And why are you asking just about the league and the World Cup? What about the EFL Cup? What about the Euros? What about the Nations League?
And there's no point in relying on the old false gambit of 'teams win trophies'. Yes we all know that. The point is that teams rely on great players to show up in big moments when things are tight. We've all seen what that looks like so it's silly to try and pretend otherwise. Did France win the 2022 World Cup final? No. Did Mbappe show up in a way Kane never has in a massive game? Yes.
Mbappes performance in that WC final is so overrated, as is he as a player. Ghosted for 80 minutes scored one good goal and got two penalties.
Mbappe scored 4 goals in the final 3 were penalties, you think Kane will have a problem scoring these when penalties are his strong point. Likely one of the best PK shooters around
France is so much better and balanced than England which makes it easier for Mbappe to shine and win
In the CL Kane has played 1 final with Spurs just like Mbappe with a vastly better PSG
This is the first season Kane will be playing with a team considered one of the top CL teams which Mbappe has been enjoying for like 6yrs
Clueless post.
Mate if you disagree with whatever they have to say, they will just deem your posts to be clueless
In what way? He was the worst player on the pitch at minute 80. Good for him that his team got two penalties and credit to him for sticking a pen in the shootout after already taking two but some historic performance it absolutely was not. Di Maria and Messi far outshone him in that game.
Hilarious. He had ONE penalty in a massive game (but still a much less pressurised game that the final) and sent it into orbit. They have space probes still looking for that ball. Of course Kane would have struggled. Because he's a bottler. Every great player fails to show up sometimes, but he fails almost every time.
All I hear in the media is that England player for player are better than France, so I'm not sure about that
Kane took a penalty in the Euro final and scored
That was probably the biggest game he has played so far
I remember how good Mbappe's penalty was against the mighty Swiss
At which bar? Have you seen what England parades in their defence/keeper and compare that to France?
What media is that?
The Sun?Think you're wrong here. Shaw scored for England.
PK shootout. Kane took the first one
Ooh right. I don't know why i forgot that there was a PK shootout.
To dispove your point he would need to play in a World Cup final, so he quite literally isn't free to disprove your point at any time. He's free to disprove it if the performances of he and the rest of his team enable his team to reach a World Cup final while Kane is still young enough to play.
This thread is hilarious.
Nonsense. Never said anything about a World Cup final. He played a Euros final, where was he? He played a World Cup semi final, where was he? He played a Nations League semi final, where was he? People in this thread are steadily confusing the very good with the great. We've all seen greatness and we all know that it exists in those spaces, not in qualifying rounds or the beginning of a season.
Not true, he scored the first penalty in that game to make it 1-1.
I would love to have him right now at Real Madrid. I think it's a shame he spent so much time at Tottenham and he was also unlucky in the sense that a lot of the top teams already had good strikers on their prime.
Mate, it was a joke about the phrasing. This conversation is ridiculous and doesn't merit a sincere response.
Also have the top scorer in Germany and the top scorer in Spain so you can understand the hype
Glad you realised I'm right.
No, you're making a complete embarrassment of yourself in this thread. But if it makes you feel better.
This
You’d think Kane was an ex United player with the way people get angry or vexed at anyone daring to point out that he’s not exacting been a man for the big occasion, in spite of the fact he’s played quite a lot of really big games.
If he left Spurs after 2019 he'd already be regarded as the best English striker of all time
You say hypotheticals are pointless but in the same post say Kane couldn't do the business in a world cup final. A theoretical point.
You're picking and choosing to suit your argument.