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Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Seriously dude, why care about sell on value if we never sell anyone?
Dude, it's a joke.
One never knows
fixed it for you
Never said that. I would rather see a younger player than Kane coming here.
Kane is great but im not sure he will leave the goldfish bowl behind
secondly his injury record and our luck with injuries
secondly his injury record and our luck with injuries
You know posters don't know Kane at all when they point to his injury recordKane is great but im not sure he will leave the goldfish bowl behind
secondly his injury record and our luck with injuries
Makes me wonder how little they know about Osimhen if they speak this way about Kane who plays in our league.
He is hardly ever injured
This season
Huh? This season he’s achieved playing relatively injury free but previous seasons, are we just discounting those? We are talking about a player who will be coming into his 30s, do we expect less niggles?You know posters don't know Kane at all when they point to his injury record
Makes me wonder how little they know about Osimhen if they speak this way about Kane who plays in our league.
Osimhen, I’d think hard about investing in him too
Kane
| Season | Injury | Days | Games missed |
|---|---|---|---|
| 20/21 | Ankle Injury | 6 days | 2 |
| 20/21 | Ankle Injury | 7 days | 2 |
| 20/21 | Unknown Injury | 5 days | 1 |
| 19/20 | Fitness | 23 days | 1 |
| 19/20 | Thigh muscle rupture | 67 days | 14 |
| 19/20 | Ill | 3 days | 1 |
| 18/19 | Ligament Injury | 51 days | 9 |
| 18/19 | Torn Ankle Ligament | 40 days | 8 |
| 18/19 | Back Injury | 2 days | - |
| 17/18 | Ankle Injury | 20 days | 2 |
| 17/18 | Knee Injury | 8 days | - |
| 17/18 | Hamstring Injury | 7 days | 2 |
| 16/17 | Ankle Injury | 24 days | 3 |
| 16/17 | Ankle Injury | 49 days | 11 |
| 13/14 | Back Injury | 49 days | 11 |
https://www.transfermarkt.com/harry-kane/verletzungen/spieler/132098
Since 19/20 he hasn’t had an injury that’s bad?
Osimhen
| 22/23 | Biceps femoris muscle injury | 32 days | 6 |
| 21/22 | Muscular problems | 2 days | - |
| 21/22 | Corona virus | 11 days | 2 |
| 21/22 | Cheekbone Fracture | 54 days | 12 |
| 21/22 | Calf Strain | 7 days | 2 |
| 20/21 | Head Injury | 11 days | 3 |
| 20/21 | Corona virus | 21 days | 6 |
| 20/21 | Shoulder Injury | 62 days | 14 |
| 17/18 | Shoulder Injury | 79 days | 5 |
| 17/18 | Shoulder Injury | 35 days | 5 |
| 17/18 | Calf Problems | 14 days | 2 |
| 16/17 | Meniscal Injury | 178 days | ? |
2 ankle injuries? I know it’s only a week each but he’s getting older so expect these to start happening more often
if United sign him, great, but it will cost the guys of 100m to do so and I’d want someone who we can rely on.
besides not convinced he’s gonna leave spurs now
Yes, we don't need to count one's where he had injuries from isolated incidents that occcured almost 3 years ago.
The fact that he has 3+ seasons of dependable appearances shows he doesn't have an injury record to worry about.
If you're going to start looking at that level of minutia to claim someone has an injury record concern, you should give up using it as a metric all together. Basically every striker is probably a crock.
He missed 5 games in 20/21.
I don’t think that’s much considering players will miss a game or two a season anyway.
Oh so you can talk without petty insults?
how do you get “3 seasons of dependable appearances”?
You guys are not factoring in his age
Sorry, but it gets really annoying when a Kane injury narrative is peddled again. Just comes across lazy.
He had 37, 35 and 29 appearances in each of the last 3 Premier League seasons. 28 in the one before that.
Hes also already on 22 appearances this season and counting.
Tell me where he's not dependable.
You're not factoring his playing style. Look at how the likes of Lewa, of a similar ilk, age with time.
Explosive players who rely on physicality and pace tend to be 1) more injury prone and 2) fizzle out faster. Have you seen Haalands injury stats by the way?
Yes and the build of that lad with his running style means he will always be prone to muscle injuries. I wouldn’t touch him anyway. You’d have to build your team to suit him, rather than dropping him into a system that already works.
anyway look I’m not gonna change my opinion on Kane and I suspect he will stay at spurs anyway so let’s leave it there
And last and the season before that…
He whispers slowly in James ducker’s ears.
Unlucky injuries on both sides there, but Kane has missed 4.46 games on average over 15 seasons. Osimhen has missed on average 4.75 games over 12 seasons.
Not much in it.
Kane's fitness has also been great for years now.
Not much in it.
Kane's fitness has also been great for years now.
Kane over Osimhen for me right now. We've always played better when our striker participated in the build up
Injury concerns wouldn't be an issue for us signing Kane, he'll have basically played 50 games a season if we include this current one, for 3 seasons now. My concern for him would be lack of service from the wings, and whether he and Bruno would try and occupy the same space when Kane drops deep as he does. Rashford is basically a wide forward, he's there to attack the space in behind. Antony, so far, seems he's there to recycle possession. Neither of their main assets are to provide service to the front man.
To be fair to Osimhen, Covid x2, a cheekbone fracture and a head injury are no indications of a susceptibility to injury. What is/was up with his shoulder though?
Levy is impossible to deal with. A best case scenario is a long summer struggle to sign Kane for 80-90m on the last day of the transfer window. Which brings its own problems.
I can't see it happening any other way unless Kane puts in a written transfer request.
Interesting situation from Kane's point of view. If he wants United then this might be his only chance. We won't hang around till Jan or summer 2024 for him.
I can't see it happening any other way unless Kane puts in a written transfer request.
Interesting situation from Kane's point of view. If he wants United then this might be his only chance. We won't hang around till Jan or summer 2024 for him.
How I wish we could sign Harry. He is not only a goal scoring machine, but a complete footballer with great vision that would fit the systems of switching positions.
kane is going nowhere this summer. ye really should stop upsetting yourselves and maybe have a gander at a double swoop for fati and de jong from barca.
Neither of which solves our CF deficiancy.
Fair few mentalists on here it seems.
Kane is an elite level player. He's a goal-scorer and a playmaker in one, and there's nobody else like him. The only player that has his sort of all round game is Benzema, who is one of the best of his generation. At 30 he's at his peak, which is backed up by him having his best goal-scoring seasons for a while despite playing in a pretty ordinary Spurs side. His style of play and his ability to adapt his game means he's going to be top notch for at least another few years yet. He's head and shoulders above the likes of Osimhen right now. Though I do think he will be priced out of any move again by Levi and ultimately stay at Spurs.
Kane is an elite level player. He's a goal-scorer and a playmaker in one, and there's nobody else like him. The only player that has his sort of all round game is Benzema, who is one of the best of his generation. At 30 he's at his peak, which is backed up by him having his best goal-scoring seasons for a while despite playing in a pretty ordinary Spurs side. His style of play and his ability to adapt his game means he's going to be top notch for at least another few years yet. He's head and shoulders above the likes of Osimhen right now. Though I do think he will be priced out of any move again by Levi and ultimately stay at Spurs.
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I really hope and pray we don't waste money on Kane. If we spend big on a striker then please let it be Ivan Toney. Far better value for the future
He's not wrong
Agree about Toney in for Kane, ideal squad player.
Solid signing for Spurs to replace Kane if/when he leaves. We should be going for the best - I.e. Kane himself.
So you pray that one of the finest strikers of this generation (200 premier league goals and the rate is not slowing) is not bought and instead we go with Ivan Toney (25 PL goals). Because he's better value for the future (2 years and 9 months younger).
Don't get me wrong, I like Toney and he'd do a good job for us. But he's at least 2 levels down from Kane.
Edit - I don't even think Toney would end up being that much cheaper!
Toney is coming into his peak Kane is fast leaving his
Give me some of what you're smoking because it seems strong as shit. Kane is 29 so what exactly makes you think Kane is fast leaving his peak? Have you seen how long strikers these days play for? Lewandowski is 34 and doesn't seem to be slowing down with 14 goals in 17 La Liga matches. If we can get Kane for another 4 years at top level that would be fantastic. Kane has 17 goals so far and he has played 23 matches.
Kane is one of the best strikers in the world. Ivan Toney is so fecking far from that. United create more big chances than Tottenham anyway, so he'd probably have even more goals for us. Toney over Kane