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24 hours after Mbappe news yesterday and we brief we're out of this Kane race?

Most positive thing about this is making the decision nice and early.
The brief has been consistent on Kane. We cooled our interest a long time before this Mbappe announcement.
 

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A world class CF and a CM are the two glaring gaps in our first team. We should be going all out to solve that. Of course they are going to cost 100mill each, that's modern day football.
Liverpool went out and got the best GK and CB they could, and won the league. They didn't piss about looking for bargains when they had an opportunity to challenge.

Genuinely, do people even watch Man Utd games?
What about our GK? Our RW? Our RBs are truly world class? Or our CB when Varane will undoubted be injured or need rest? Our CDM when Casemiro gets suspended? Or even our LB when we need Shaw to cover CB?
Liverpool, for all that I hate them, were much closer to a title challenging team than we are.
 

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I think that's the sensible thing. Let's build for the future, this team is not primed to win the league yet and why spend so much money for only the next couple of seasons.
Kane is just turning 30 for next season. Lewandowski has scored almost 250 goals since turning 30. Benzema has scored 150 odd goals since turning 30. Ronaldo scored nearly 300 goals between the ages of 30 and 36. Ibrahimovic scored 250 odd goals from the ages 30 to 36. How long is your future? Kane could have definitely made a big impact over a 3-4 year period at the very least.
 

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Pretty much confirmed now even if you didn't believe Jamie Jackson
 

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Really glad that

A) The club isn't sanctioning an ridiculously overpriced transfer fee for this

B) We haven't let this drag on all summer
 

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Interesting who our other option is.
It really looks like it's Hojlund or Kolo Muani, the only realistic options we've been primarily linked to, unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat and surprise everyone of course.
 

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He's great, but honestly I was never willing to get invested for this summer at all, Levy has nothing right now other than his reputation for been a hard man over transfers, so it was always unlikely.

I actually feel sorry for Kane at this point been stuck there for another season, but he'll be a nice signing on a free next summer that's for sure.
 

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Liverpool went out and got the best GK and CB they could, and won the league. They didn't piss about looking for bargains when they had an opportunity to challenge.
They were a lot closer though, weren't they? They finished 1 point behind City the season before that.

They already had a purring forward line, midfield, and dangerous fullbacks. They knew they were within touching distance, so they threw every last penny they had at the 2 areas they had a weakness; GK and CB.

We came nowhere near Arsenal last season, let alone City. We probably need better first XI players in at least 5 positions, some people might argue more than that.

The two situations aren't comparable at all.
 

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Levy is a twat, he doesn't want a deal with a PL club even if it means losing Kane on a free next year.
I’m not so sure. Reckon the thought of Kane walking out on a free to whatever team he fancies would be the stuff of nightmares for Levy.

Think/hope Levy’s greed for money will see Kane sold to Utd this summer.
 

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Really glad that

A) The club isn't sanctioning an ridiculously overpriced transfer fee for this

B) We haven't let this drag on all summer
Same, I think walking away is the sensible option. Also shows other clubs we aren’t afraid to leave if we think we’re being mugged off.
 

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Paying 100m for a 30-year-old guy with one year left on his contract is a dereliction of duty,
 

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Felt despite Kane's ability, he's clearly going to leave next season so a fresh start would have been in Spurs's interest. He is a very dominant player for better or for worse, everything goes through him and it just makes him as hard to replace next season, for considerably less money too. Kane also personally has been screwed over by Spurs, a sort of forced loyalty. Spurs wonder why they've gone from a Champions League final to 8th in the table, one of the reasons for that is their failure to refresh things, which ultimately stems from Levy being too stubborn to sell any of their assets whatsoever.
 

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Liverpool went out and got the best GK and CB they could, and won the league. They didn't piss about looking for bargains when they had an opportunity to challenge.
It helps that they'd got loads of other recruitment decisions correct before that as well in fairness.
 

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I’m not so sure. Reckon the thought of Kane walking out on a free to whatever team he fancies would be the stuff of nightmares for Levy.

Think/hope Levy’s greed for money will see Kane sold to Utd this summer.
Really not sure what to hope for with this.
High fee for Kane now just screams last decade United. Going huge only to find he doesn't fit in at all, or drops off a cliff straight away.
 

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It helps that they'd got loads of other recruitment decisions correct before that as well in fairness.
Twice in recent seasons United were heading for mid-table before signings in seriously deficient positions (DM with Casemiro, AM with Bruno) elevated the team up the table. Don't think it's unreasonable that improving both ends of the pitch dramatically (GK, ST) and we could hit another level again.
 

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I feel like Utd might go back in August if they haven’t found an alternative by then, like they did with Antony after initially dropping interest

I can’t think of any top level realistic alternative striker
 

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Not a fan of the shouted alternatives, but we shouldn't get mugged by Levy for Kane.
 

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Yes, but if the seller sets the price at a completely unrealistic level then that is disingenuous because 'market' value will never be reached. If I say to you that next year you can move if we get an excellent offer, but then when it comes to it I set a price above and beyond an excellent offer then that is not keeping my part of the agreement. It's completely on Kane and his dimwit brother for apparently taking Levy at his word and not getting an actual buyout clause/figure written into the contract though.
I don’t think you guys understand the idea of a market. As I said above, the market value of something is determined BOTH by what someone values their own goods or services at AND what consumers values them at. In the scenario above, you are absolutely right. If Tottenham places a price tag on Kane that nobody is willing to pay, they have priced him above his “market value.” However, Tottenham is not obligated to sell Kane. Maybe Tottenham doesn’t think Kane is worth selling below their own valuation. Maybe they are willing to risk holding out for a club getting desperate and placing what others deem an outlandish offer because they need an elite CF (heck, United did this last year with Ajax and Antony). That’s totally fair play. They can ask for the moon. Then, when nobody offers their asking price, they can determine whether or not they want to lower their prices or simply not sell the player. That’s their call. You and I can think they’re stupid for it, but it doesn’t change the fact that they have every right to ask for what they want…just like United has every right to tell them to take a hike. The fact that Levy made a deal with Kane or that Tottenham could lose him for free next year all seem to demonstrate that their club would be daft not to move him and take a truckload of money, but it doesn’t change the reality of supply and demand.
 

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Really not sure what to hope for with this.
High fee for Kane now just screams last decade United. Going huge only to find he doesn't fit in at all, or drops off a cliff straight away.
I’ve no doubts Kane would score at Utd.

No idea how much it would cost to get him this summer, but don’t imagine Utd paying ridiculous money for him.
 

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I don’t think you guys understand the idea of a market. As I said above, the market value of something is determined BOTH by what someone values their own goods or services at AND what consumers values them at. In the scenario above, you are absolutely right. If Tottenham places a price tag on Kane that nobody is willing to pay, they have priced him above his “market value.” However, Tottenham is not obligated to sell Kane. Maybe Tottenham doesn’t think Kane is worth selling below their own valuation. Maybe they are willing to risk holding out for a club getting desperate and placing what others deem an outlandish offer because they need an elite CF (heck, United did this last year with Ajax and Antony). That’s totally fair play. They can ask for the moon. Then, when nobody offers their asking price, they can determine whether or not they want to lower their prices or simply not sell the player. That’s their call. You and I can think they’re stupid for it, but it doesn’t change the fact that they have every right to ask for what they want…just like United has every right to tell them to take a hike. The fact that Levy made a deal with Kane or that Tottenham could lose him for free next year all seem to demonstrate that their club would be daft not to move him and take a truckload of money, but it doesn’t change the reality of supply and demand.
I run a retail business mate, I understand market value. The point I was making is that if Levy said to Kane that he could leave next year provided he gets an excellent fee, but then prices him at something way above excellent, in the knowledge that no-one will meet the valuation, then that is disingenuous. As I said though, more fool Kane for agreeing to it.
 

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And we've gone for bust with the Lukakus, Ronaldos, Sanchezes of the world. How has that worked out for us?

Frankly, unless you're delusional, there's no way with 1 extra player, no matter how good he is, that we're going to be able to catch City and actually win the league next year. We need to make up at least 15 points, most probably we'll need an extra 25 points for a realistic challenge. No matter how good Kane is (or even Mbappe), we're not catching City next year.
Well I trust the manager that we have these days a bit more than when we signed the other guys. And who ever mentioned only signing one player? I literally said a few posts ago that we need a striker, midfielder and goalkeeper minimum this summer. I'm going on the basis that we may have around £150 million to spend, plus whatever we can recoup from selling the likes of Maguire, Martial, McTominay etc.
 

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Was always going to happen wasn’t it? I really hope Kane does leave on a free next year.. don’t care if he comes to us but just to feck of Levy.
 

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I do not believe Kane will ever sign for us if circumstances play out as they should. Next summer United are earmarked to go for Evan Ferguson. If he stays fit and continues his progress at Brighton, then we will go for him. What would the point be in acuiring both ( even if Kane is free) when you just halt the progress of the younger player?

This was Kane's last summer to join United in my opinion.
 

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Paying 100m for a 30-year-old guy with one year left on his contract is a dereliction of duty,
Not for one as good as Kane. He's comparable to the likes of Benzema and Lewandowski who are still scoring bucketloads in their mid-30s.
 

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Yep, let's just work on our 4th place trophy challenge.

Ffs, we're man utd, we should be building a team to challenge now, not this bs period of transition nonsense.
That's the spirit. Exactly on the same page here.

Kane is just turning 30 for next season. Lewandowski has scored almost 250 goals since turning 30. Benzema has scored 150 odd goals since turning 30. Ronaldo scored nearly 300 goals between the ages of 30 and 36. Ibrahimovic scored 250 odd goals from the ages 30 to 36. How long is your future? Kane could have definitely made a big impact over a 3-4 year period at the very least.
Yes, I know, he's top class and will produce for the next two or three seasons. I doubt he'll come close to the longevity of Benzema or Ronaldo, but scoring 30 for this chaotic anti-football Spurs side is very impressive. That being said, we've got glaring holes all over the pitch. Unless we're embarking on the biggest spending spree to date, we can't really throw all the money on one position (or two). I'd rather sign a forward who will be part of a team that grows together for the next 5-6 seasons. There is no question that we need a new GK for our first phase of play, and we need to address what is an immobile midfield that is either lacking in passing ability, technical proficiency or energy.

And we cannot be wasting a whole summer pursuing a player becoming more and more desperate each day. I wish to see Murtough and co being proactive here and show they have a clue.
 

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I run a retail business mate, I understand market value. The point I was making is that if Levy said to Kane that he could leave next year provided he gets an excellent fee, but then prices him at something way above excellent, in the knowledge that no-one will meet the valuation, then that is disingenuous. As I said though, more fool Kane for agreeing to it.
Well I think we can all agree Kane is not the brightest spark or the most ambitious. He could well stay at Spurs and end up with no trophies to show for it.
 

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Not sure brevity fc works in this context, kane is by far the best centre forward we could get even if I have reservations over the value

The issue is we need a striker and the only other strikers we are linked with all appear to have inflated valuations and would represent a risk
 

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I run a retail business mate, I understand market value. The point I was making is that if Levy said to Kane that he could leave next year provided he gets an excellent fee, but then prices him at something way above excellent, in the knowledge that no-one will meet the valuation, then that is disingenuous. As I said though, more fool Kane for agreeing to it.
Kane has been too soft with Spurs. I would love us to put in an official bid to them of 70m and let his shithead brother agent know we'd better his wages and profile and watch the cnuts eat themselves. He'd be ours by January.
 

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Not for one as good as Kane. He's comparable to the likes of Benzema and Lewandowski who are still scoring bucketloads in their mid-30s.
Disagree. There is no way in heck that we should be paying 100m for a 30 year old. We need someone who will be around for the long haul and I don't buy it that Kane can do it until his mid 30s. There are always exceptions like Benzema and Lewa, but why take the risk? There are other quality strikers out there who could be with us long term. No matter how well he were to do if he signed for another club, he will always be a Spurs legend. We need our own legends.