It’s Levy. He is stupid enough to demand £50m in January. He isn’t a tough negotiator. He likes to think that. He is just stupid and greedy.
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Only thing this saga has told me is that Kane likes to keep his options open. He could sign a pre-contract in Jan to eliminate the risk of long term injury and ending up with no contract offers, but it seems to me the smarter thing to do is wait until next summer and evaluate all options. He will also at that point have a good idea of which PL club looks the most likely to usurp City. If you can choose between:
- Bayern
- Barca
- PSG
- Renew with Spurs
Wouldn't you in Kane's position rather want to extend that list with:
- Liverpool
- United
- Newcastle (honestly, not sure that is as left-field of a suggestion as it sounds..)
- Chelsea
- Arsenal (really don't see this one happening though)
Heck, it's not impossible to imagine that Madrid activate Haaland's (rumoured) clause to pair him with Bopi?
I hope Florentino already talks to Kane and Spurs lose him for free. That will finally throw them back to the mid table battle.
If this isn't sorted this window, and Kane's smart enough not to sign, there'll be plenty of offers in the winter window, perhaps a mild bidding war. I doubt £20m gets an English club Kane at that time, and foreign clubs would be better served offering him the biggest signing on fee they can muster.
With his chucklehead of a brother-agent, you never know.
But no player with a competent agent is going to sign a new deal before at least exploring what other clubs can offer. He could sign a pre-contract with a non-English club in five months and if he stays at Spurs beyond this window a bunch of English clubs will start reaching out to discuss the framework of a possible contract they could offer next summer.
Most people who know the game say that signing a player on a "free" only saves you about 50% of what they would cost on a transfer due to elevated wages and signing on fees. Kane could command something stupid like a 40-50m signing on bonus and 500k per week on a free next summer if he has another good year and there is significant competition for his signature.
I find Spurs not accepting £85/90m (or wherever they are now) from Bayern slightly bizarre. Is it really worth the risk of Bayern walking away over an extra £10m?
I think it's possible one or some of the following could be true at the same time:
- he really wants to move to Bayern now
- he is playing 4d chess with Spurs in completely maxing out a new contract from them
- he wants to play his final year so minimise damage to his Spurs legacy, and wants a move on a free
If it's the final one then it's always a calculated risk re injury especially if he wants to stay in England - imagine if he got an ACL or achilles in April at nearly 31.
I think it's possible one or some of the following could be true at the same time:
- he really wants to move to Bayern now
- he is playing 4d chess with Spurs in completely maxing out a new contract from them
- he wants to play his final year so minimise damage to his Spurs legacy, and wants a move on a free
If it's the final one then it's always a calculated risk re injury especially if he wants to stay in England - imagine if he got an ACL or achilles in April at nearly 31.
We never stood a chance, if he wants 100 million pounds from Bayern, we would have to pay over 120 million pounds to get him.
Hope we will walk away. 100 million € for 30 year old is too much money anyway. No or little resale value only. And there isn'ta guarantee he will be an instant success. Mané should be a warning.
In the case his wage demands are true, the club will risk to a lot of bad blood within the team. Especially if Kane doesn't perform as expected.
In the case his wage demands are true, the club will risk to a lot of bad blood within the team. Especially if Kane doesn't perform as expected.
Depends how Hojlund does I imagine. If Kane scores another 30 this season and Hojlund scores 8 would you expect us to be interested?
I still want Kane however many Hojlund gets but gut says club will feel differently
Yeah, and even with Hojlund we are one still only an injury away from another Wout Weghorst scenario because we don't have any other centre-forwards (assuming Martial will either be injured or sold).
He will take a massive dump on Levy's desk next summer, moonwalk to Carrington and join us for free.
Bayern will cry "Why Herry? Why? This is so not right!" . And then he will answer "What can I say? I'm a classic number nein"
Bayern will cry "Why Herry? Why? This is so not right!" . And then he will answer "What can I say? I'm a classic number nein"
Imagine having to see Levy almost every day, every week for a year while trying to gracefully run that contract down... ...he will renew Just to be able to breathe a few months in.
I never get this argument that's made about PL teams not being able to sign a PL player on pre contract.
They can't officially sign them but the agents can easily agree every aspect of the contract and sign it come June. It's not like Utd or Chelsea won't contact Kane until June next year to begin negotiations if he's available for a free.
Feel bad saying this as my dad is Spurs fan but need then to have a poor start. I want him to keep his options open and not jump in and sign that new deal.
100m euro package was always going to be turned down. Levy wanted £100m minimum.
A transfer saga as boring as Harry himself.
Bayern have the cash - they just need to get over themselves with the whole stereotypical- German fiscal rectitude (which is only partial anyway, if you consider their wage bill and the fact they make hand over fist in commercial deals and prize money)... although I'd be delighted to see them walk away and leave Kane as a United option for next Summer
I doubt he will sign a new deal. I do fancy him going to Real on a free next year though. That's if he's ambitious which he really hasn't proved so far.
Utd need to ignore the fact they have Hojlund and IF he says I'm not signing new deal then get ourselves right to the front of queue
Totally agree with you I'd sign him now or next Summer.
Accusations of tapping up the player? I don’t know either, seems a silly rule to me.
We haven't the money to get him now as need to get Amrabat and backup RCB too
Hear loads of stories now where the potential buyer has agreed terms with the player but the selling club is not engaged at all.
They'll either offer more money for Kane now, or wait six months without a striker I reckon.
Kane will re-sign with Spurs if the deal doesn't go through and Bayern don't wait.
Bayern still trying it on, it has to be around £100m base fee first. An £86m "package" that includes addons isn't going to tempt Levy or have the majority owner step in.
If they dont get Kane who are Bayern going for? Vlahovic?
Hijack Kolo-Muani to PSG
Some of these rules must also be potentially challengeable. In theory, someone like Kane can’t speak to an English club (assuming that’s his preference) until very soon before his contract is due to expire. That’s obviously non-ideal and can tempt players into either moving abroad to get some certainty or signing a new contract - the latter obviously being the reason for the rule. It’s all very much designed to protect the clubs at the expense of the individual player.
They will come back with another offer.
Lets be honest, they dont want to overpay for Kolo Muani, as he is not as good. Vlahovic same. Will be interesting to see if they bid 100m for Kane or 70-80m for one of the other two. I would go for Vlahovic
Lets be honest, they dont want to overpay for Kolo Muani, as he is not as good. Vlahovic same. Will be interesting to see if they bid 100m for Kane or 70-80m for one of the other two. I would go for Vlahovic
Yeah I only want them to walk as still hoping we are interested on a free next summer
Do they need to sign anyone in order to win their league?
I thought Bayern only signed good players from other german teams on a free to be honest.
Never liked how they vacuum the german market and get players to run down their contract.
Not really but do to win Champions League
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He'll be at Munich this time two weeks.
Wait and see.
Wait and see.
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We don't need cold water pourers in this thread
I hope you’re right.
