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Tom Daschle said:It was taken off the table as a result of the understanding that people had with the hospital association, with the insurance (AHIP), and others. I mean I think that part of the whole effort was based on a premise. That premise was, you had to have the stakeholders in the room and at the table. Lessons learned in past efforts is that without the stakeholders’ active support rather than active opposition, it’s almost impossible to get this job done. They wanted to keep those stakeholders in the room and this was the price some thought they had to pay.
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Andrew Wakefield.Anti-vaxxers make me want to punch things. Holy shit, how can people be so scientifically ignorant?
My cousin is one of them. God takes care of her children!!Anti-vaxxers make me want to punch things. Holy shit, how can people be so scientifically ignorant?
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Maybe there’s something to this whole karma thing
This is what every fecker against healthcare for all should go through.
If I could change one thing permanently with the US then it would probably be healthcare, even if it doesn't affect me at all.
Good on the school board for backing her.
I agree. Problem is people will only kick up a stink when they realise it’s gone.The NHS is an absolute godsend and should be fought for with every drop of sweat any reasonable person has available to them!
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The M4All answers reveal people don't understand that the 2nd and 3rd questions are the same.Tweet
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The VP of Communications of a For-Profit health insurer publishes a clearly biased study that claims the public wants For-Profit health insurance?Tweet
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TBF Kaiser has done a lot of M4A polling, most of it positive.The VP of Communications of a For-Profit health insurer publishes a clearly biased study that claims the public wants For-Profit health insurance?
What an amazing coincidence
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http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2011/09/ron_pauls_campaign_manager_die.htmlAt the fifth GOP debate this week, moderator Wolf Blitzer asked Ron Paul, a doctor, whether someone who opts to not buy health insurance and then gets sick should be allowed to die. The crowd responded with startling shouts of “Yeah!” followed by applause, leaving even Rick Perry “taken aback.” Paul’s answer, while more gentle, was more or less the same. “That’s what freedom is all about: taking your own risks. This whole idea that you have to take care of everybody … ” said Paul, who was cut off by clapping from the audience. While you wouldn’t know it from his answer, Blizter’s hypothetical probably hit close to home for Paul, whose campaign manager Kent Snyder died young of pneumonia — without insurance — in 2008.
He was just 49 years old when he died of complications from the virus on June 26, two weeks after Paul dropped out of the race. Snyder’s mother was left with around $400,000 in medical costs. Paul supporters set up a donation fund to help with the debt.
Snyder was credited as “the driving force behind Ron Paul’s presidential bid” in the last election, having turned “his one-man operation into a national grass-roots phenomenon that now calls itself ‘The Freedom Movement.’”
That same freedom, which Paul referred to in the debate, complicated Snyder’s health problems, as a preexisting condition made insurance premiums too expensive, according to Snyder’s sister. After Snyder’s death, Paul wrote on his website: “Like so many in our movement, Kent sacrificed much for the cause of liberty. Kent poured every ounce of his being into our fight for freedom. He will always hold a place in my heart and in the hearts of my family.”
A pharmaceutical giant charging the NHS an unaffordable price for a life-changing drug has further angered campaigners after posting a huge increase in its revenues.
Ministers are already under pressure to step in over the price of Orkambi, a cystic fibrosis drug that could extend the lives of thousands of children. Vertex, its manufacturer, has set a price of £104,000 per patient per year for the drug. It has turned down NHS England’s offer of £500m over five years for the use of its medicines.
Vertex also reported that net income in the last quarter more than doubled, from $158m (£122m) to $337m. It said this jump in profits was “largely driven by the strong growth in total CF [cystic fibrosis] product revenues”.
What many of these studies do not explain is that having Universal health Care does Not mean you cannot see the same doctor or clinic you are seeing now. So people think with a Government run Health plan, you will have to go to some designated Government hospital or clinic. Therefore getting 'inferior care'.The VP of Communications of a For-Profit health insurer publishes a clearly biased study that claims the public wants For-Profit health insurance?
What an amazing coincidence
Good point. Also related is how the 'free college" doesn't mean that suddenly the gov will force every single private and public research grant university to be tuition free it just means there will be option to attend college for free (doesn't mean Harvard is suddenly going to cost 0)What many of these studies do not explain is that having Universal health Care does Not mean you cannot see the same doctor or clinic you are seeing now. So people think with a Government run Health plan, you will have to go to some designated Government hospital or clinic. Therefore getting 'inferior care'.
This is the false thought behind wanting to retain Employer Sponsored health plans.
What Medicare For All and Universal health Care does is completely eliminate the Insurance Companies and enables the Government to force Pharmaceutical companies to lower costs.
Bernie will explain this clearly.
Perfectly said about College Education.Good point. Also related is how the 'free college" doesn't mean that suddenly the gov will force every single private and public research grant university to be tuition free it just means there will be option to attend college for free (doesn't mean Harvard is suddenly going to cost 0)