If Giggs is not the next manager, do you want him to stay?

[Cheesy]

I wouldn't necessarily oppose him sticking around. If he wants to stay, and the next manager would like to have him around, then yeah, he can stick around. But I don't think he should be imposed on the next manager like the annoying child of a single mother someone's dating, and if Mourinho/whoever else comes in, doesn't want him, then he should look to gain further managerial experience if he wants to have the United job at any point in the future.

 

[Pexbo]

I just can't help but feel that his presence will always provide a distraction and with Fergie above him pulling the strings, will either compromise or overshadow whoever is in the seat.

It really is time for this club to move on.

 

[SteveJ]

Why does the club feel the need to give him an official position? If he's mainly there to observe the management methods of more senior & experienced bosses, why not just let him be a 'student' (without the obvious pressures on all parties, including Ryan) as opposed to manager-in-waiting?

 

[Cheesy]

Why does the club feel the need to give him an official position? If he's mainly there to observe the management methods of more senior & experienced bosses, why not just let him be a 'student' (without the obvious pressures on all parties, including Ryan) as opposed to manager-in-waiting?

Because they realise that in order to make his appointment seem even remotely credible, he has to be in an active, important position, where they can then say he has coaching/managerial experience that's needed to step into the top job. If he's just sticking around in the background, then he's essentially got no more credibility than Scholes, Neville, or any of our other club legends. Granted, I don't think his current position offers him much more, but the club can at least try to argue he's been involved in an active coaching role.

 

[SteveJ]

Then it's just window-dressing for a fait accompli.

 

[devilish]

harsh. There are many decent and good managers working in leagues up and down the country. Just because top 4 clubs are scared to take chances on managers who have no 'big club' experience doesn't mean that there are not good managers/good coaches who followed the FA or UEFA coaching mandates.

Would you mind if I ask whom out of the bunch do you think is capable of managing a Manchester United/Chelsea/Arsenal/Shitty type of team without ending up looking stupid? Rodgers and Moyes were among the most promising of the lot and we all know how that ended.

I understand that its a highly specialised job however each nation has at least 1 manager whose clearly better than what British talent has to offer (most have more). Its a shame because the EPL is one of the nicest and most competitive leagues to watch.

 

[Will Singh]

Giggs needs to prove himself at another club and build himself up to be regarded a manager capable of managing UTD!

Not going to lie, I'd love him to take over one day but right now for his own sake should leave!!!!!

 

[golden_blunder]

Would you mind if I ask whom out of the bunch do you think is capable of managing a Manchester United/Chelsea/Arsenal/Shitty type of team without ending up looking stupid? Rodgers and Moyes were among the most promising of the lot and we all know how that ended.

I understand that its a highly specialised job however each nation has at least 1 manager whose clearly better than what British talent has to offer (most have more). Its a shame because the EPL is one of the nicest and most competitive leagues to watch.

you're missing the point.

You said that the FA system didn't produce any decent managers.. I argue that it does, there are many of them managing up and down the country.

In fact you're talking about elite level of managers which is something different. I suppose the answer is that English top4 are scared to take chances (United did with Moyes and look what happened) and also British managers don't take enough chances going abroad and widening their horizons. That's why I hope that Gary Neville succeeds. It might encourage more.

btw Rodgers..IF Stevie G hadn't slipped we'd be talking about him in an entirely different light as a PL winner. Ironically he probably has the skillset to coach abroad.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

I think he should venture out and prove that he has the ability to manage United because there's no way I can see an internal appointment being made.

The board have seen the current position we are in and won't risk giving it to him now.

If the next manager does poorly, the board will again look for someone with a name to steady the ship and this will continue until the right 'big name' manager finally gets shit right.

Which ever manager does get us back on track (which is likely to be Maureen), when that manager leaves, they wont want to bring in Giggs as they will be too scared to make a risky appointment after all that has gone on. So they will sign another big name manager.

I can't see how Giggs could or even should get the job. Yes Guardiola has done wonders when brought up through the ranks but to be honest, he had the world's best player in his side, which was already filled with superstars, in a league where even if they played shit, there aren't enough quality teams to knock them out of the top 4. It's completely different in the EPL.

 

[DrunkenBeaver]

The whole 'sit around and wait to be offered it' approach to being the next United manager angers me if I'm brutally honest. I think it shows lack of respect for the job for starters. You either want to be a manager or you don't. I get the feeling that he has no real interest in being a football manager but just likes the idea of being manager of Manchester United, which is kind of outrageous really.

He could have been balls-deep into a managerial career at a decent championship team or even a mid to low table Premier League side by now; learning the ropes, developing his own managerial style. Instead he thinks he wants to hang around and wait to be offered something. That doesn't strike me as someone with the necessary personality or drive to ever manage Manchester United.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I wouldn't necessarily oppose him sticking around. If he wants to stay, and the next manager would like to have him around, then yeah, he can stick around. But I don't think he should be imposed on the next manager like the annoying child of a single mother someone's dating, and if Mourinho/whoever else comes in, doesn't want him, then he should look to gain further managerial experience if he wants to have the United job at any point in the future.

Summed up perfectly.

In hindsight, I didn't need to bold 90% of the post but I'm too lazy to change it now.

 

[DrunkenBeaver]

I don't understand why he didn't want to spread his wings after he retired. You've been at the same club for your entire career, surely when you retire and you move onto a career as a coach/manager then for no other reason than your personal development you want to get out there and see the world and experience what else you can learn. Learn Italian and go and spend a season working over there, or brush up on some basic German and experience the Bundesliga. Even staying at home going and learning the culture at different clubs and all that.

The fact that he didn't I think speaks of a lack of ambition and, more worryingly, a lack of wanting to do anything to help further his career and to be a better manager.

 

[devilish]

you're missing the point.

You said that the FA system didn't produce any decent managers.. I argue that it does, there are many of them managing up and down the country.

In fact you're talking about elite level of managers which is something different. I suppose the answer is that English top4 are scared to take chances (United did with Moyes and look what happened) and also British managers don't take enough chances going abroad and widening their horizons. That's why I hope that Gary Neville succeeds. It might encourage more.

btw Rodgers..IF Stevie G hadn't slipped we'd be talking about him in an entirely different light as a PL winner. Ironically he probably has the skillset to coach abroad.

Would you mind mentioning some cause now I curious. If you take the current EPl table from top to bottom then the first British manager you'll find is Mark Hughes at mighty Stoke (10th) followed by Alan Pardew (Palace at 13th) and Pulis (Westbrom at 14th). When you compare to lets say Germany (Tuchel no 2 at Dortmund, Schmidt at Leverkusen at 4th place and Schubert at the other Dortmund at 5th place), Italy (Allegri at Juventus 1st place, Sarri at Napoli 2nd place, Spalletti at Roma 4th place) or Spain (Enrique at Barca 1st place, Toral at Villareal at 4th place and Emery at Sevilla 5th place) that gives a clear picture of the current talent of British management. The worse thing about it is that actually the best managers of these leagues tend not to play in the league they come from. Pep is at Bayern and will soon move to Shitty, Ancelotti and Conte will soon join Bayern and Chelsea respectively and Klopp is at Liverpool. TBF Gaz is doing fairly well (11th place with Valencia) since he hired Pako

 

[Infra-red]

Giggs needs to prove himself at another club and build himself up to be regarded a manager capable of managing UTD!

Not going to lie, I'd love him to take over one day but right now for his own sake should leave!!!!!

His best chance of managing United is if he sticks around and waits it out (a Mourinho managerial tenure is unlikely to run beyond three seasons). If Giggs leaves to try his luck elsewhere he's much more likely to end up among the vast ranks of average-to-poor player-turned-managers than join the rarefied company of Guardiola et al, which would put an end to this particular fairytale (or nightmare, depending on your perspective).

He should keep his head down and hope he ascends to the position by default when Mourinho inevitably implodes.

For United's sake I'd obviously much prefer he moved on elsewhere.

 

[devilish]

His best chance of managing United is if he sticks around and waits it out (a Mourinho managerial tenure is unlikely to run beyond three seasons). If Giggs leaves to try his luck elsewhere he's much more likely to end up among the vast ranks of average-to-poor player-turned-managers than join the rarefied company of Guardiola et al, which would put an end to this particular fairytale (or nightmare, depending on your perspective).

He should keep his head down and hope he ascends to the position by default when Mourinho inevitably implodes.

For United's sake I'd obviously much prefer he moved on elsewhere.

His best chance is to leave and gain experience. God knows what would happen in 3 years time. Mou may decide to remain.