Chelsea have lost one game this season to Liverpool. They have looked a better organised team, better tactically than last season, which shows improvement.
They are on the same number of points as we are. They lost one in PL, but are also out of LC already. They invested heavily in their squad during summer and had normal preseason, while we started season without training together. Also, you can't compare level of investment they made and what we made during the summer, and that is hardly Ole's mistake (or any manager). But yes, they look better and I think they have better squad at the moment as they are better organized club with better recruitment for some time. Still, they do not have more points than us, they did not have more last year and in direct duels they have been worse, including game month ago.
What has changed for us since Ole took over? he has the really good run, we have not played that level of football under him.
We are playing pretty good football under Ole when we are not under pressure. Like when we take a lead, we are playing pretty good. As I said, experience is serious problem of that side, and probably experience of manager as well. Until we score we are in problems, like we are scared that we will make a mistake. Some segments of football under Ole have been much better than anything in last 6 years, we can score 4 or 5 goals, we are winning away games in a row, we are capable to overrun teams which we did not do under Jose, we can make a comeback when we are goal or even two down. I can't remember that from our team before Ole, as in those games we are losing as soon as we concede first goal. Like people can't remember those Huddersfields, West Hams.
Two more years of playing together is fine but 3 years ago Liverpool beat us in the EL to get to the final, which they lost. the season after they got to the CL final, the season after CL win, season after PL win. That is a sign of progress.
We got to semi final of 3 competitions, including EL. We are meant to progress, instead we are back to the EL, fighting for 4th. Where is the progress? There is none.
We are not back in EL, we have qualified for CL. Ole did that in his first season, so if that is a mark, he did that in 100% of his seasons, while Jose did that in 1 out of 3 (2nd was through EL), and LVG in one. We did not qualify for CL knockout, true, but honestly we did play much better in 5 of those 6 games than we did in any of the Jose CL games. You can say it is manager job to get result and not playing good, but for me it is improvement, as I want us to play good football and results will come with a little bit more experience, than to watch us parking the bus in our box against Sevilla or Valencia and rely on De Gea, even if that would bring us result.
No one is saying Jose or LVG was better, whether you liked their football or not, in their 2 year stints, they both won trophies, Ole doesnt look like he will ever win a trophy.
True, he did not won a trophy. But if getting back Jose would bring us LC and CL trophy and we will have three more years of his football, I am staying with Ole. If bring back LVG would give us one more FA Cup with that football, I would keep Ole without trophies.
Again, the sleepy football they gave us gave us the same results as Ole ? Just because we have to chase every single game after 30 mins doesn't mean its boring, it just shows the manager keeps getting his team selection and tactics wrong. How can you as a manutd manager have to change players at half time in most games?
He did not change players at HT in most games, just in 3 last games, and before that he did not. For me it is good sign, as he is not afraid to change when it is not working. I can remember LVG changing players in the same minute of every game regarding of how they play. I am not talking it is fun to watch cause we chase games, it is fun to watch cause we are attacking most of the game, we are trying to score, trying to get in final third with direct passing and risk. We don't pass sideways always like with previous managers. We don't have games without a single shot on target, or any kind of shot for 90 minutes like we had with both Mourinho and LVG. Chasing game is not fun to watch, but we did not even chase games before.
Ole has done well, unfortunately he has hit his ceiling. He cannot set up a team to win big important games.
That is the key. Ole has done well until now. Not perfect but well. He deserves a chance to finish what he started. He won important matches. He won against Pep more than once. He won against Chelsea, he won against Spurs, he won against PSG twice, he won against Leipzig 5:0, he won last game of the season to qualify for CL against direct rival away. Those have been important matches. He lost some of them as well. You win some, you lose some in football. Those he lost, he did not play bad. Like against PSG week ago, or against Sevilla in August. Leipzig was bad in better part of the game. Barcelona was bad, City one game was bad, Chelsea also. So, I just say, put a little bit of pressure of his shoulders, he deserved the right to prove himself, did not deserve the hate he is getting at all.